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iOS 11.2 Beta 3 Introduces Pop-up to Explain Control Center Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Functionality

DeepIn2U said:
Guys I completely agree!

Industry standard and simplistic understanding should REMAIN that way. Who at Apple is THIS stupid to change what users have always loved and expected over years?!





What? You REALLY think this is better?
Let's say you're about to board an airplane ... toggle off ... you change timezones and boom it's on again much earlier than iOS is expecting ... is there still airline restrictions on radios?!!

Let's say when you land you're "expecting" based on this assinine NON-Industry standard change for toggle switches in a software based smartphone, that WiFi should connect to the airport and all the while your streaming is now via carrier roaming rates!! Yeah I'm sure you'd LOVE to see that bill - considering the basic common sense is to enable what you turned off and now through Apple indoctrination you're expecting it to turn ON automatically.
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If I am getting on an airplane, I am going to turn airplane mode on, which turns off these radios and doesn't turn them back on unless you turn airplane mode off or touch wifi or bluetooth toggles. And you are making my case for me, this new feature only discounts you from current wifi, so you can't forget to turn it back on and running up your data...
 
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If the toggles require a pop up to explain what they do, Apple needs to go back to the drawing board. Back in the day (and up until six weeks ago), “On” meant on and “Off” meant off.

What would be nice is if they used the Workflow app they purchased to allow for background automations like, “When I leave my home, turn my phone’s Wi-Fi off”. I was able to do that on Android 7 years ago.

I wouldn’t have to mess with these toggles hardly at all if I could simply tell the phone to do certain things automatically based on whether I am at my home or not.
 
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DeepIn2U said:
Guys I completely agree!

Industry standard and simplistic understanding should REMAIN that way. Who at Apple is THIS stupid to change what users have always loved and expected over years?!





What? You REALLY think this is better?
Let's say you're about to board an airplane ... toggle off ... you change timezones and boom it's on again much earlier than iOS is expecting ... is there still airline restrictions on radios?!!

Let's say when you land you're "expecting" based on this assinine NON-Industry standard change for toggle switches in a software based smartphone, that WiFi should connect to the airport and all the while your streaming is now via carrier roaming rates!! Yeah I'm sure you'd LOVE to see that bill - considering the basic common sense is to enable what you turned off and now through Apple indoctrination you're expecting it to turn ON automatically.
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Omg. How much misinformation. You really think airplanes still ban WiFi and Bluetooth? Are you in the 80s? FFS
It is MUCH better now!
 
strategicthinke said:
You’re wrong. A Bluetooth toggle should disconnect from whichever device I am using without crippling my Apple Watch and Apple Pencil use....
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If you (or others) want your devices to stay connected you leave the connection ON. If you want your devices to disconnect you turn the connection OFF. But if what you want is to set your connection to OFF while still having parts of it ON, you want something compromised that is neither ON nor OFF and inconsistent with other buttons (like Airplane Mode) within the same control center UI. It's a failed interface.

So clearly if anything or anyone is "Wrong" here it is anyone arguing that ON/OFF doesn't equal ON/OFF.
 
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DataChris said:
If you (or others) want your devices to stay connected you leave the connection ON. If you want your devices to disconnect you turn the connection OFF. But if what you want is to set your connection to OFF while still having parts of it ON, you want something compromised that is neither ON nor OFF and inconsistent with other buttons (like Airplane Mode) within the same control center UI. It's a failed interface.

So clearly if anything or anyone is "Wrong" here it is anyone arguing that ON/OFF doesn't equal ON/OFF.
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No, I want to disable connected Bluetooth devices without interfering with my Apple Watch, Apple Pencil, Handoff and Continuity. You’re wrong. That’s all, and time will make you look like a dinosaur with that opinion that “off is off”. Wake up, turning your TV off doesn’t make it really turn off. It goes into a low power mode ready to be turned on again. So much for your logic. Where are your complaints to every single other TV producer out there?
 
CarlJ said:
To be fair, most on/off switches these days aren't really turning the device off - think of things like TVs and such, where "off" is really "enter low power mode and wait for a request to power back up" - they're more like sleep/wake switches (if they actually powered off the device, you couldn't wake it with a remote). That ship sailed long ago. Apple really should make long-press or force-touch be a real "shut the wifi/bt radio down" operation, but the current situation is really just extending the "go to low power mode" concept to another part of the device.
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I guess that is a logical argument (and Apple should unquestionably offer 3D Touch options for real on/off) but as-is, the logic should at least apply consistently to all the toggles in the control center UI... but it doesn't.
 
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Two Major Reasons Why The iPhone 6S is My Last iPhone:
1. Removal of headphone jack not for any functional improvement, but merely to charge users more money. What idiot would pay $1000 to support such a practice?
2. Inability for extremely expensive device to control major (privacy-concerned) features like Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. I understand Apple's existing walled garden, but if a setting doesn't do what it says then that's deception and wrong.
 
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Anonymous551 said:
Two Major Reasons Why The iPhone 6S is My Last iPhone:
1. Removal of headphone jack not for any functional improvement, but merely to charge users more money. What idiot would pay $1000 to support such a practice?
2. Inability for extremely expensive device to control major (privacy-concerned) features like Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. I understand Apple's existing walled garden, but if a setting doesn't do what it says then that's deception and wrong.
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Apple masks /annomnifies your MAC address. Are sure you’re worried about privacy or just misinformed by techs-know-it-all that frequent these forums?
 
theelysium said:
LOL OK.... surrrrrreeee. Yeah, you are soooo correct. Having 2 antennas broadcasting DOes nOt drain extra batter.. uummkkkaaayy.

You are not being saturated by your device in your pocket within 5mm to your skin with other antennas, now are you?

You might want to research the effects of radiation and antennas from your cell phones before responding like fake news.

Both of your responses are false, SORRY.
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So if your settings has wifi/bluetooth on but control center is off then the antennas are still searching for a signal but just not connecting so there is still radiation coming from both antennas right?
 
Glee217 said:
So if your settings has wifi/bluetooth on but control center is off then the antennas are still searching for a signal but just not connecting so there is still radiation coming from both antennas right?
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Repeat with me, the is no radiation harm. There is no scientific empirical evidence that it affects human beings whatsoever. Stop spreading misinformation.
 
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This is absurd. This new behavior is contrary to how every toggle option on every operating system has worked forever. When you click a button and see it switch from blue to grey, that universally means the function is turned off. Apple has uncharacteristicly overthought this - actions should be simple and function as expected with no explanation.
 
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Glee217 said:
So if your settings has wifi/bluetooth on but control center is off then the antennas are still searching for a signal but just not connecting so there is still radiation coming from both antennas right?
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Are you Chuck from BCS???
 
Well this mode is still glitchy. I turned my wifi off.. it said it wouldn't turn back on till tomorrow for my current network. Drove to the store... came back about an hour later. Looked at my phone, wifi turned back on. So I'm wondering if it means it wouldn't auto connect again if I stayed within the range of the wifi and didn't leave it? Because again, soon as I came back.. reconnected. I've now attempted this 3 times, 7+, 8+ and X. All have the same issue. 2 are fresh installs of Beta 3, 1 was just an upgrade. Reported as usual.
 
DataChris said:
If you (or others) want your devices to stay connected you leave the connection ON. If you want your devices to disconnect you turn the connection OFF. But if what you want is to set your connection to OFF while still having parts of it ON, you want something compromised that is neither ON nor OFF and inconsistent with other buttons (like Airplane Mode) within the same control center UI. It's a failed interface.

So clearly if anything or anyone is "Wrong" here it is anyone arguing that ON/OFF doesn't equal ON/OFF.
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Typical "I'm right, everyone else is wrong" argument, just because something was done the same way for a while doesn't mean that's how it will/should always be done. They've changed the way we unlock the phone a few times and while it was met with panic and rage, we eventually accepted the new standard, just like this change. Some people fear change and don't want to accept it unless it's on their terms, I wish we could remove warning labels for a week to let those types sort themselves out. It's only a failed interface to the few individuals who were too inept to understand it's functionality.

This change is a good one, the toggle isn't an on/off feature anymore, it's more of an airplane mode for the Bluetooth and wifi without messing with the cellular. The iPhone is going to continue to evolve as it has always done for the good of the many.
 
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I guess i don't mind it. i use it while in the truck trying to load a podcast and out of wifi range but still not LTE.
 
Preclaro_tipo said:
I'm so glad for this feature. I will turn wifi off to allow for the (often) much faster LTE, or if I'm too far from my Wifi base station but I forget to turn in back until like 3 days later and during that time i've been killing my data usage instead of using Wifi.
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OMG, ever heard of wi-fi assist?
 
Works well for us mainly because:
1. Our phones are on unlimited plans
2. We use, at most, 1 gb data a month each so we don’t care how it connects
3. We use our ipad more which do not have cellular and mostly connect wifi
4. Leave bluetooth on because it doesn’t seem to drain the battery
 
cablecartman said:
Advanced users who want to be able to disable wireless radios should not be required to dig through the labyrinth of Settings to do so.
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Why not? That’s implicit in the “advanced” part.
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spazzcat said:
I am guessing they had a lot of support tickets with people saying their Apple Watch stopped working and it turned out they turned off their bluetooth because they think it saves them battery.
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Bingo
 
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strategicthinke said:
Dear lord... How many times does one need to explain that keeping WiFi off makes you use your GPS for location instead, which is much more battery intensive? On Bluetooth, you’re still dealing with the ghost of pre-low power Bluetooth. I’m glad I can now disconnect my Bluetooth headphones without killing connections with my Apple Watch, Apple Pencil, AirDrop, AirPlay, Handoff and Continuity, thank you, sir.
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How is wifi be used for locations services even if you DIDNT CONNECT TO WIFI ? Also where is your source from? Thanks
 
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