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But let me turn-off Bluetooth (or Wifi)!
I don't feel like owing my own device. You don't even have a 3000mAh battery!

Funny, Apple talks about Rights to Privacy, Right to this and that.. Choice-Freedom but

It's like an AI is forcing me to live & breathe in a certain way. I live in India, these are useless and will only drain my battery outside my home.

Question: How about flights? Classic Switch-off?

I have turned off Bluetooth and wifi with no issues. Not sure why you are having that problem.
 
Semantics. It's still the same net result from an end user perspective. You download ios11 and all of a sudden some of your apps don't run anymore, and never will. It's like jumping off a cliff. A jump I won't be making as I value my old apps.
I agree, but a lot of Apple customers, when asked by Apple to jump off a cliff, just ask "Which Cliff?".
 
It works flawlessly. I got the forced update for 12.7, downgraded to 12.6.2 and did all the updates to iOS 11 with my old iTunes 12.6.2.

iPhone 6s plus, iPhone 7, iPad Pro 12.9 first gen, iPad Pro 10.5.

everything as before. Syncing and local backup iOS 11 without any problem.
Thanks, I also got auto-upgraded to 12.7 (had the setting in System Preferences > App Store > (Automatically) Install app updates checked) and downgraded back to 12.6.2. I'll probably install iOS 11 on my iPad now, kick the tires there and if I am happy upgrade my iPhone as well.
 
Your brief flash search on Google.com is not representative of the key readership media outlets in the UK and social media articles. Stick your nose back where it belongs.

I live in London! And you are talking total FUD. http://bfy.tw/E2Sj you do realise you can isolate your searches to countries or domains? Doubt it....

Google scaremongering.....does not mean what you think it does.

And......maybe you should search the news outlets in other countries, running the same stories about 32 bit no longer supported....something people MIGHT want to know before updating? Useful maybe?

Yes .....there has been a global scaremongering tirade by the news outlets stating exactly what Apple has stated.

Shown us one story that is Scaremongering and not actually reiterating what Apple has stated!
 
Updated my 6s and the operation is much smoother or more fluid, and all apps seem to open instantly from a closed state now. IOS 10.3.3 usually took a few seconds depending on app. iPad mini2 which is now 4 yrs old wasn't so lucky. Apps are slow to open when closed(some real slow), but performance over all is much like IOS 10.3.3. was when open. Lost one 32-bit app on this update. Never used it much, so delete. Overall, very pleased. Great update!
 
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This will be due to all of the media scaremongering (especially in the UK) saying things like “Your apps will break with this update”
I read about IOS 11 working in 64 bit only, and removed all 32 bit apps before hand. I suspect now that I am running a pure 64 bit iPhone, may be the noticed speed increase. No more compromises to run ancient software.
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Yes. It's so hard to check the "64 bit" box when they compile.
And how no income? Don’t they get their fee from latest new purchasers of app. The old Apple Is software doesn’t run on my Mac Pro either. Crying crocodile tears over it.
 
If by a "long time" you mean a few months, sure. :rolleyes: They didn't even say that at first instead giving the useless "may slow down your device" message.
Warning prompt appeared to users in December, 2016... starting with iOS 10.3. Developers were given notice in mid 2015.
 
Yup, and how many of that 10% had instant regret when their device stopped working properly and started overheating, again. Count me into that category.
 
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Yes. It's so hard to check the "64 bit" box when they compile.

What about Flappy Bird? It's 32 bit and the developer has completely removed the app from the App Store (but it's still downloadable from the purchases section). That app, unfortunately will NEVER get updated and the flappy bird clone apps don't quite recreate the same feel as the original.
 
Thanks, I also got auto-upgraded to 12.7 (had the setting in System Preferences > App Store > (Automatically) Install app updates checked) and downgraded back to 12.6.2. I'll probably install iOS 11 on my iPad now, kick the tires there and if I am happy upgrade my iPhone as well.
I do note that the IOS 11 update on my iPad Air 2 is not quite as quick as on my iPhone 7 Plus. But can’t really complain. App opening might be a stitch slower, but typing response seems faster.
 
Thanks, I also got auto-upgraded to 12.7 (had the setting in System Preferences > App Store > (Automatically) Install app updates checked) and downgraded back to 12.6.2. I'll probably install iOS 11 on my iPad now, kick the tires there and if I am happy upgrade my iPhone as well.

Just go for it. It's fine and really nice - if you are not running 32bit Apps.
 
Yup, and how many of that 10% had instant regret when their device stopped working properly and started overheating, again. Count me into that category.
I wonder why some have this situation. It would be interesting to see if there was a common denominator for those with failed updates. I know I always have plenty of storage space left when I update. Like 75% free. Wonder if failures are on units that are near capacity? Just a thought.

All my updates have always worked flawlessly. I never have reloaded as new either. Just let the software do its’ thing. One thing I always do is update everything else first, reboot the device, save to iCloud, have everything else closed and plug into power adapter. Now at times the device gets warm, but the processor is humming along, so I expect that. I also have a strong WiFi signal when I download.

Not the case this time, but when I get new device, the pictures and apps that re-download do cause the new unit to heat up a lot. I have it sitting on cold pack so that solves that issue. Probably overkill, but when it’s at 50 degrees F, i have peace of mind. And since I never had any issues, knock on wood, I continue my ritual.
 
My phone looks visually almost the same as it did two days ago with the exception of the new control center the unified notification pane and some font tweaking. Oh but they did take away the force touch appswitcher from the left side of the screen.

I'm probably just easier to please ;)
 
IOS 11 is crashing when -> Photos, shared library, people->invite people. when you start to type it crashes the app.
Anyone else have the same problem???
 
Your beef is with the developers, not Apple. If they take your money and then leave you hanging, you may not want to deal with them again.

Users don't need to know about 32-bit or 64-bit, the developer just needs to ensure their app will work, just like fixing any other "issue"

I just love when people tell me who my beef is with as if they were inside my head. No, my beef is exactly as was outlined earlier. With Apple for handling this poorly, and with larger developers who have the resources not updating their apps. Small (or one man) developers I do not fault and certainly don't fault a developer who might have died and is thus no longer around to update their app. I don't know if anyone actually falls into that category, but it is possible.

Yes. It's so hard to check the "64 bit" box when they compile.

There's more involved than just that.

Warning prompt appeared to users in December, 2016... starting with iOS 10.3. Developers were given notice in mid 2015.

Again, they first said that the app "may slowdown" your device and only more recently stated it just wouldn't run in the future. And 10.3 wasn't even publicly released until March, so how could users have seen it in December of last year?
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/03/27/apple-releases-ios-10-3/
 
Could have been your wife’s company's misfire and not apples.

My family is on iOS 11 as well as several people I know whose companies are supporting iOS 11. To each their own.

They use Office 365 for mail and their users are using the Apple Mail client.. that doesn't currently work. So I'd say it's not her company at fault.
 
Smart people! lol
This update is pretty bad. The battery on my iPhone 6S Plus is appalling! I'm not gonna even listen to those who say, "oh, it requires a clean install from scratch". I call BS! When I updated my phone to iOS 10 last year, it was fine. All those wiping their phones and installing from scratch are just placebo believers. OTA updates replace every single bit of data. It's not like we use analogue tapes and there was some background noise that skewed the recording LOL
I wish I could've stayed on the previous version as long as I could. Now I'm not gonna go through the hassle of deleting/resorting 120 gigs of my data. I can't even imagine how it performs on devices with only 1 gig of RAM if it leaves much to be desired on mine with 2 gigs.
 
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That absolutely not cause and effect, even without the MS email problem the advice would be the same. Organisations are risk averse, they can either get a potentially very, very small increase in productivity via the new OS going well, or have an absolute failure of the system if it goes badly, of course they are going to advise not to update yet... it's simply not worth taking any chances until the OS is proven stable 'in the wild'

It seems pretty cause and effect when the organization has never taken this stance before, and they are specifically making the statement due to the bug.

It's a pretty damn significant bug to get past the beta and into production. A lot of people use Office 365, and it's far more convenient to use the built-in mail client than to use Outlook for iOS.
 
I just love when people tell me who my beef is with as if they were inside my head. No, my beef is exactly as was outlined earlier. With Apple for handling this poorly, and with larger developers who have the resources not updating their apps. Small (or one man) developers I do not fault and certainly don't fault a developer who might have died and is thus no longer around to update their app. I don't know if anyone actually falls into that category, but it is possible.



There's more involved than just that.



Again, they first said that the app "may slowdown" your device and only more recently stated it just wouldn't run in the future. And 10.3 wasn't even publicly released until March, so how could users have seen it in December of last year?
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/03/27/apple-releases-ios-10-3/

Apple aren't going to re-introduce 32-bit compatibility. They've given developers 4 years to be ready for this day. If developers haven't updated their app then that's irresponsible, big company or one-man-band, doesn't matter. You sell something then you have to support it. Free apps, well you have no argument and have to take those or leave them. With all due respect, rant all you want but the only way your apps will become compatible with iOS 11 is if the devs, not Apple, take the responsible course of action.
 
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I installed it on my 7Plus. Can honestly say I have not noticed any slowdown at all. In fact I actually got impression things were working a tad bit faster. Nothing significant mind you. Siri sounds much more real.
One suggestion I hear folks say is whatever version of iOS your iPhone first came out, do 1 major update from that, and perhaps a 2nd one. Otherwise, your risk of performance hits is much higher. The Iph7+ came with ios10, so I wouldn't expect any issues there.


Even though it is a small percentage, it already surpassed Android Oreo update :rolleyes:
I'm using an LG G4 on Marshmallow/6.0. It does everything I need it to. I have no need for an update to the OS. Included apps (like those from Google like Chrome and Maps), get updated independently, as well as security updates. I only paid $220 for this phone, used, so I'm not bummed that I'm missing out on Nougat/7.0 or Oreo/8.0
 
Apple aren't going to re-introduce 32-bit compatibility. They've given developers 4 years to be ready for this day. If developers haven't updated their app then that's irresponsible, big company or one-man-band, doesn't matter. You sell something then you have to support it. Free apps, well you have no argument and have to take those or leave them. With all due respect, rant all you want but the only way your apps will become compatible with iOS 11 is if the devs, not Apple, take the responsible course of action.

Again, the end result is the same and Apple has a stake in the problem. If you don't want your apps to go away then the only recourse is to stay on iOS10 if the developers aren't on the ball. It is absolutely going to drive some people to do this, regardless of where the ultimate blame lies.
 
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This is bad. 50% battery drain in less than hour just going on Facebook.
And phone hot to touch.
Not happy. This is on iPhone 7plus.
Why can't apple test their iOS fully before release. Every B****y time this kind of thing happens. Puts you off iPhones for good.
I haven't heard android becoming useless after every update!
Are you using the Facebook app, or accessing it through a browser? If it's the former, then TBF, the app has been known to be a battery drain (although I hear accounts of up to 20%), and I doubt that's changed

That's normal, because it's doing all kinds of **** on the background the first day. The only thing useless here is your reply...
Would you have posted this were it not for jutk's post? If not, that makes it useful to me, as this wasn't something I was aware of. If nothing else, posts on how Android's don't really get updates are more useless to me, as I've known that for years. Speaking of which....

Most Androids can't even update...
If an update wrecks stuff, then that's worse than not being able to update.

However, I can still say the point still stands true. My Samsung Galaxy s2 went from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6, while my Galaxy s4 did get an update from 4.3 to 4.4.4. Then again I didn't care. I'm fine with that. It's no different than the "concern" on iOS how you guys are in a much more closed and rigid environment. If you're still using iOS devices, then clearly, you're fine with that.
 
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