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tvOS 13 is actually an improvement over tvOS 12, at least in my brief experience. I had just purchased a new top-end AppleTV 4K, and was not impressed with the new remote and tvOS 12. But when I installed tvOS 13, the experience was vastly improved. Very happy with it.

The upgrade did not install automatically. Was this happening for others without their consent?
Yes , there are few threads of people having terrible picture ,no airplay from iPad, just the sound etc
Probably AppleTv 4k works but not for TV4 like the one I have

Few more on Apple Forum https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250680430?page=1
and then I stop here
A guy was lucky to go to the apple store and get a new one because he still was under warranty
Mine worked so well till 12.4.1
 
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Apple does all kinds of tricks to make you update. They'll make the update notice look like a password screen, so you enter your password in an attempt to unlock your iPhone to use and next thing you know it will start upgrading overnight cause you just entered your password, confirming the upgrade. Add the constant nagging and you might slip up and upgrade by accident.
So if one trick doesn’t work they try another trick? Right... I’m sure that’s exactly the programming Apple has.😳
 
Big mistake updating to this half baked mess...
Stop being so dramatic. iOS 13 works fine.
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You are confused. There is no single version of Android. Each vendor has their own version. So, just like iPhone users are (or are not) on the latest version of Apple's OS, so are, say, Samsung users on the latest version of Samsung OS. You are talking about Google's Android. But this one is targeted only to Google phones. And, Samsung version of Android usually has way more features than the Google's one.
You’re really reaching here.
 
And the other half? Terrible upgrade rates when the updates are free.

You do realize that a sizable portion of people avoid upgrades because they either don’t care about them, don’t think they have time to mess with them, or they are afraid of them, right? The fact that the update is free doesn’t matter.

The rest of the world doesn’t sit on MR at 1 PM ET on iOS launch day while furiously tapping ‘General —> Software Update’ over and over, lamenting on this board that their iPhone still says it’s ‘up to date’ on the previous version of iOS.
 
These apple iOS upgrade rates prove most users don't care about OS updates.
So 55% in a few weeks according to this post proves some point about most users not caring about os updates. Seems like the state of mind can’t be proven. Only the results.
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Meanwhile, this year alone there were more Android phones sold than iPhones sold in the last four years combined. So, in all likelihood there are more Android users on the latest version of Android than iPhone users on iOS 13.
Got a citation for that? Phrased as an opinion only.
 
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I've never seen a site more full of hatred to a brand they supposedly love. iOS 13 has been great for me so far. Only issue was bluetooth cutting out but that has been fixed in a timely manner. Some of you need to step back and realize things aren't as bad as you make it out to be. Now back to enjoying my super smooth 11 pro max.

Mannnn! Same here. I understand everyone is entitled to their opinion and their critique, but man... This site is starting to scare me Lol. I setup my Pro Max 256GB as new, signed into iCloud and organized/downloaded everything I needed.

I have virtually zero issues. And if I did have issues? Ok, no biggie. Apple isn’t perfect. My 2010 iMac, 2018 iPad Pro, Apple Watch Series 5 and iPhone 11 Pro Max all play very well together.

I’m a happy man.
 
Just curious, how was she forced? Auto update is a user option, right? And why exactly is she angry and especially super-angry? What problem(s) has she actually encountered?
Thanks for sharing.
Like when you buy a new phone, like when your older phone breaks and you get it replaced in apple store, like when the solution to most problems is "update your phone with latest version on ios" as documented everywhere... Just some examples..
 
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Apple does all kinds of tricks to make you update. They'll make the update notice look like a password screen, so you enter your password in an attempt to unlock your iPhone to use and next thing you know it will start upgrading overnight cause you just entered your password, confirming the upgrade. Add the constant nagging and you might slip up and upgrade by accident.
Did they somehow trick you into not looking at the screen you were entering your password into to make sure you were actually unlocking your phone and not, say, upgrading the OS? Do you just enter your iPhone password into any old screen that pops up with a number pad?
 
I’ve seen a lot of various spin used to justify the utterly pathetic state of Android updates, but this one takes the cake.

Are you actually trying to claim that Android on Samsung is a different version? Do you know anything about how Android is licensed to companies (like Samsung)?
I have a Samsung phone. I know. I have plenty of features that Google's Android does not have. These are different OSes (which share a lot of stuff). Samsung is the only official source of OSes for its phones. How would Google's Android support memory cards, S-pen, iris sensor etc? The fact that open source development is involved in the process is interesting but irrelevant. It does create some perceived inefficiencies but it also brings a synergy lacking with iOS. On a feature introduction curve (OLED, NFC, LTE, 5G, widgets, night-shot, multi-window UI, customization etc.) Android is years ahead of iOS so the fact that Google contributions get into Samsung releases with some delay is more than compensated for. Samsung's version of Android might be behind the latest Google version (in some regards) but it is still way ahead of iOS.
 
I’m waiting till the end of December or beginning of January. Things are usually safe by then.
 
But but but I thought <insert most recent iOS release> was the worst atrocity that has ever befallen mankind, plus Apple is doomed and Steve Jobs is rolling in his grave and everyone isn’t updating until 5 point releases later!! How could the general public not understand the literal hell they are subjecting themselves to!?!?!?
 
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Like when you buy a new phone, like when your older phone breaks and you get it replaced in apple store, like when the solution to most problems is "update your phone with latest version on ios" as documented everywhere... Just some examples..
Wait, so let me get this straight. Apple "forces" people to upgrade to the latest iOS by: 1) forcing you to buy a new phone. 2) forcing you to break your phone and get a replacement. 3) offering bug fixes and security improvements as a solution to bugs and security issues.

If those aren't rock solid examples of Apple forcing people to upgrade, I don't know what is.
 
I have a Samsung phone. I know. I have plenty of features that Google's Android does not have. These are different OSes (which share a lot of stuff). Samsung is the only official source of OSes for its phones. How would Google's Android support memory cards, S-pen, iris sensor etc? The fact that open source development is involved in the process is interesting but irrelevant. It does create some perceived inefficiencies but it also brings a synergy lacking with iOS. On a feature introduction curve (OLED, NFC, LTE, 5G, widgets, night-shot, multi-window UI, customization etc.) Android is years ahead of iOS so the fact that Google contributions get into Samsung releases with some delay is more than compensated for. Samsung's version of Android might be behind the latest Google version (in some regards) but it is still way ahead of iOS.
That’s a lot of talk without actually saying anything. Samsung phones run Android. Samsung has to pass the Compatibility Test Suite to ensure their devices can run Apps from Google Play without issues. It’s not some custom version of Android that only runs Samsung Apps.

Years ahead? More lies. Android has some things iOS lacks while iOS has some things Android lacks. Overall iOS and the ecosystem is superior since I can actually run high-end Apps instead of the Fisher Price ones you get.
 
I have a Samsung phone. I know. I have plenty of features that Google's Android does not have. These are different OSes (which share a lot of stuff). Samsung is the only official source of OSes for its phones. How would Google's Android support memory cards, S-pen, iris sensor etc? The fact that open source development is involved in the process is interesting but irrelevant. It does create some perceived inefficiencies but it also brings a synergy lacking with iOS. On a feature introduction curve (OLED, NFC, LTE, 5G, widgets, night-shot, multi-window UI, customization etc.) Android is years ahead of iOS so the fact that Google contributions get into Samsung releases with some delay is more than compensated for. Samsung's version of Android might be behind the latest Google version (in some regards) but it is still way ahead of iOS.
Honestly, you can have your features first. I'd rather have features that are not half-baked (to be fixed in a later release) upon release: smart hdr, dynamic hdr in videos, airdrop, facetime, imessage, that android is sorely behind the curve in.
 
I was cautious about 13 but I'm impressed after a few weeks with it. Noticeably faster on my 2 year old iPhone X (iPhones now seem to get faster as they get older!) and I'm surprised at actually liking dark mode which comes on in the evening.
Didn't get the spam cold call from Sri Lanka yesterday having turned on the silence unknown callers feature.
What's not to like?
 
What’s the point in posting this sort of articles?
People will install the iOS update just to stop the reminders from constantly pestering them. Android doesn’t bug you like this so that you install an update just to get rid of the stupid reminders.
 
Some of these updates are people that had the update FORCED on them, like my wife and she is super-angry at this.
Forced? How? I have plenty of iDevices still on 12.4.1 with no pushed OTA notification for iOS 13. And the one that received it, I can simply ignore it. Seriously, this whining about Apple forcing the upgrade is tired and old.
 
What’s the point in posting this sort of articles?
People will install the iOS update just to stop the constant reminders from constantly pestering them. Android doesn’t bug you like this so that you install an update just to get rid of the stupid reminders.
When there’s a pushed OTA on Android, depending on the OEM, there will be a permanent notification as well. That is if you’re actually getting updates.
 
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