iOS 13 Now Installed on 55% of iPhones Introduced in Last Four Years

[groove-agent]

I would have thought that percentage to be much higher esp. for phones within the last 4 years.

Although I'm a big Apple critic, I'm really impressed with iOS 13. As Tim would say, it's one of "the best updates yet".

 

[sirozha]

So, I guess it’s totally not annoying - just read an article on how to turn off the reminders? Who wants to deal with it? After a few such reminders that require the passcode to dismiss it temporarily for it to pop up again, requiring another attempt to dismiss with the passcode, people will just update to stop this insanity. Hence, 55% updated after a month. Needless to say, Apple keeps releasing new updates - three now within a month?

Not 3, but 4!!! Just saw another one!

 

[NickName99]

People change phones every 2 years. I would rather paying as little possible and upgrade as much possible.

This is why I never picked most recent iPhone and only buy mid-range Android phone.

I recently sold my iPhone X 256GB for $625, and bought a secondhand iPhone XS 256GB for $600. I do this pretty much every year. Android phones are essentially disposable tech, but iPhones hold their value very well. it’s funny since one year old iPhones easily outperform cutting edge Android phones.

 

[I7guy]

So, I guess it’s totally not annoying - just read an article on how to turn off the reminders? Who wants to deal with it? After a few such reminders that require the passcode to dismiss it temporarily for it to pop up again, requiring another attempt to dismiss with the passcode, people will just update to stop this insanity. Hence, 55% updated after a month. Needless to say, Apple keeps releasing new updates - three now within a month?

I can only speak for myself. The frequent updates don’t bother me.

 

[JosephAW]

Happily on iOS 12 for a while.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Not everybody cares about the number of updates, like me. I’d rather updates are pushed out with some qualitative measure of how important it is to push out an update.

Completely agreed. I also don't care about the numerical amount of updates in little time ... I pointed that out to show the lake of quality vs being rushed and bugs to fix previously created bugs that were meant to fix earlier bugs occurred.

I loved the previous OSX lead-era of polish and fit and finish to OSX ... since the naming of macOS for nostalgia's sake really insulted the previous rememberence of that os "Mac OS" (which is what macOS was renaming OSX for).

Again look who's in charge ... he LEFT Apple for another company and when it didn't work out sucked and licked and begged to come back. I'd wager instigation of iOS lead 8yrs ago to Cook only to replace and strut solo on stage.

If Apple does not merge iPadOS or port ALL "PRO" as in real pro apps like Final Cut Pro X and Logic Pro X over to iPadOS considering the HUGE droves of hackintosh users building their own systems (a la circa clone era) ... Apple will have no big changes for developers to continue buying their own Pro hardware.

That Stealth 13" with a dedicated Video card is REALLY appealing now in late 2019 vs 2019 MBP.

I'm on the fence of what to do with those laptops for my next major purchase to last me 4yrs

 

[oldmacs]

Fess up - who are the holdouts here? 😉😁

Me because I don’t want the bugs and I don’t want to loose the find my friends widget.

 

[Menneisyys2]

Meanwhile, over on Android....

Meanwhile, on Android, the compatibility libs allow even 8-year-old Android 4.1 handsets to run even the latest features except for some rare cases like BLE support (Android 5+). Compare this to for example Combine + SwiftUI in iOS, which is strictly(!) iOS13 only. (And this is why I haven't switched to it but stayed with RxSwift.)

 

[whoknows2597]

Do you have a source for that information? On my Samsung note 9, I was able to side load the google camera and get the low light feature without extra hardware. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...e.2046517/page-36?post=27844347#post-27844347

There you go, you said it for me. You INSTALLED an application, rather than upgraded a camera sensor. The proof was within the Apple keynote, perhaps you should have paid closer attention. You can also check Apple.com under the camera and night mode sections which specifically state “a new Wide camera sensor works with intelligent software and A13 Bionic” as well as “100% Focus Pixels, new 12MP sensor”
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Don’t waste your time with him, he’ll just move the goalposts or something.

*edit* I see he already moved the goalposts 😂

Apparently even with proof, he decided to move the goalpost. According to him, his new Samsung phone can do night mode as well. Though he failed to mention that no new hardware was upgraded so he downloaded an app. Some people🙄

 

[attiland]

I can PROUDLY say... not my devices.

Not sure what are you proud of. Maybe you want to keep he bugs have been fixed.
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Meanwhile, on Android, the compatibility libs allow even 8-year-old Android 4.1 handsets to run even the latest features except for some rare cases like BLE support (Android 5+). Compare this to for example Combine + SwiftUI in iOS, which is strictly(!) iOS13 only. (And this is why I haven't switched to it but stayed with RxSwift.)

Very true. But the reality is that the 8 years old devices largely in the bin already for various reasons.

 

[JPSaltzman]

Well, when you conider that all owners of the iPhone SE couldn't just use the 12.4.2 upgrade that my iPad Air and 6th generation iPod Touch could.... no, we were FORCED to uprade to 13.1.1 whether we wanted to or not, just to get the security fixes that were included in 12.4.2.
Had that been available to iPhone SE users, I think a lot of them would have stayed with 12.4.2, considering all the problems iOS 13 introduced (dramatically increased battery drain for no apparent reason, cough-cough....)

 

[QCassidy352]

55% people have fallen victim of this disaster?
Damn!

been great for me, other than mail messages not downloading until I'm actually in the app (although the badge shows up). I'm happy to have upgraded.

 

[LBM4]

Not sure why this matters? Does Apple have an inferiority complex of some sort? Really, does this have any impact on the average user in the slightest? I'm sure it is meaningful for developers, but is this news worthy to the rest of the world?

 

[dw2]

Update seems fine to me...

 

[macfacts]

There you go, you said it for me. You INSTALLED an application, rather than upgraded a camera sensor. The proof was within the Apple keynote, perhaps you should have paid closer attention. You can also check Apple.com under the camera and night mode sections which specifically state “a new Wide camera sensor works with intelligent software and A13 Bionic” as well as “100% Focus Pixels, new 12MP sensor”
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Apparently even with proof, he decided to move the goalpost. According to him, his new Samsung phone can do night mode as well. Though he failed to mention that no new hardware was upgraded so he downloaded an app. Some people🙄

Yes I downloaded an app, that's proof no new hardware is needed. The a13 bionic doesn't have any new cpu instruction set that the a12 doesn't have.

 

[matrix07]

What percentage regret upgrading?
13.1 broke my graphics, freezes everywhere, even the App Store crashed so I couldn't update apps that didn't work. Worst iOS release in sometime.

I would assume not many.

I’m on the happy camp. Sure little bugs a bit annoying but my phone faster and my iPad more useful so 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[matrix07]

I've never seen a site more full of hatred to a brand they supposedly love. iOS 13 has been great for me so far. Only issue was bluetooth cutting out but that has been fixed in a timely manner. Some of you need to step back and realize things aren't as bad as you make it out to be. Now back to enjoying my super smooth 11 pro max.

Don’t presume that the majority who posted here are iPhone users. The ones who post regularly, negatively, are actually begrudged Android users.

 

[elvisimprsntr]

This as of Oct 15.. how does beta exist? the benchmark is IOS13... the flavor doesn't matter

You miss the point. Apple issuing public betas pre-loads the iOS 13 early adopters

 

[Jim Lahey]

And 55% regret it the moment they did.

Nothing like a bit of hyperbole. More likely only 0.055% of users actually agree with the views of a few vocal and bitter tech-forum critics 🤓

 

[TheWatchfulOne]

Meanwhile, this year alone there were more Android phones sold than iPhones sold in the last four years combined. So, in all likelihood there are more Android users on the latest version of Android than iPhone users on iOS 13.

Android phones are made by many companies: Samsung, LG, Huwei, HTC to name a few. iPhones are only made by Apple. That comparison is meaningless.

 

[Winni]

Meanwhile, over on Android....

...everybody sings Dua Lipa's song IDGAF.

 

[Seanm87]

Not sure why this matters? Does Apple have an inferiority complex of some sort? Really, does this have any impact on the average user in the slightest? I'm sure it is meaningful for developers, but is this news worthy to the rest of the world?

all companies like self promotion

 

[KPOM]

Fess up - who are the holdouts here? 😉😁

My employer has told us to hold off for a few more weeks until they sort out some bugs.

 

[oldmacs]

Nothing like a bit of hyperbole. More likely only 0.055% of users actually agree with the views of a few vocal and bitter tech-forum critics 🤓

And you know this, how?

Obviously 55 percent is an exaggeration, but so is 0.055%.

There are also plenty of people on here who will defend apple to the death. Appel could rebrand Vista and release it as MacOS 10.16 and people would clap for it and that it had no problems.

I'd much rather be able to come here and say "gee I love iOS 13 and iPadOS 13, but my iPad Pro wasn't even this buggy in iOS 11 and Apple for no reason whatsoever removed the find my friends widget. Also the 'speed improvements' are just not there at least on A9 and A10 devices. iOS 12 delivered but iOS 13 is underwhelming.

 

[mikejd1]

The #1 problem with iOS 13 right now is simply exchange push notifications / email. I’ve been on the beta program for years, used beta 1’s,2’s, you name it, and I’ve seen and dealt with unstable OS’s and by far the biggest mistake I made was updating my work phone to iOS 13. Mail is absolutely abysmal even on 13.1.3.