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I use Alexa for everything in my house. Hue, Ring, Blink, Hive, Sonos, Xbox, pretty much everything

Siri can just about set a timer

Absolute joke, especially as it launched with the 4s
Alexa is amazing. I resisted, now have 3. Works like a charm 99% of the time. Have smart lights/lamps, etc. Spotify and Apple Music both set up. Very happy with them. My wife and I tried HomePod Minis and Siri just killed it for us. The new Echo with clock and temp are not only much less expensive but are just far more useful simply because Alexa is so much better overall.
 
Why do people expect Siri to copy the alternatives? Apple only copies when something is good.
 
The problem is that people have become so accustomed to not trusting Siri with anything that no one is going to really take advantage of any of this, especially if it behaves in the same way with slow and canned responses. I use Shortcuts every day but I wouldn't trust Siri to make them for me on the fly. We need real productivity and assistance solutions, which even Shortcuts is pretty shoddy at when done manually.
I for one don’t trust Siri, so I turned it off for my iPhone and iPad, and will not use it unless it has improved.
 
It's time to return skins back to MacOS and iOS so we can have custom looks. :cool:
 
Removing Siri and allowing Alexa, ChatGPT Ai or Google to be the default user select Ai would be a win.
 
And now all you americans imagine you try to use siri to call some of your contacts (with non american/english names)… that is really funny game, you have to imagine how should these names sound in English to give siri chance to choose right person - well, success rate aint big😂
I think you'll find this really helpful! You can actually let Siri know how to pronounce any one of your contacts.


You're welcome 😉
 
Why put off tomorrow what you could have done today. With all the complaints and the introduction to things like ChatGPT and Bing, Apple should have done this for IOS 17. Siri will always be behind everything else and that is sad.
 
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So, do we wait till 2025 for iPhones or? Lol. It is kind of sad cause I have Alexa right now and every few months I check HomePod compatibility cause I would love to switch since Apple seems to be more secure with your info than Amazon, but the commands and the third-party services and devices that don't work with Siri and HomePod holds me back.

I hope in 2025 I finally get to switch to HomePod.

If news of Alexa supposedly losing favour at Amazon is anything to go by, you might not need to wait till 2025 if Amazon ends up discontinuing it before then.

 
Alexa is amazing. I resisted, now have 3. Works like a charm 99% of the time. Have smart lights/lamps, etc. Spotify and Apple Music both set up. Very happy with them. My wife and I tried HomePod Minis and Siri just killed it for us. The new Echo with clock and temp are not only much less expensive but are just far more useful simply because Alexa is so much better overall.
For home related stuff, Siri works well. I have free security video upload through Apple, I can open and close gates, turn lights on and play music. I can ask for temperature readings in most rooms (with HomePod Mini and Eve temp gauges).

If I want to find something out on the web, I would definitely not trust Google or Alexa to do it for me.

Why are people trying to outsource and lose control of their research to an advertising company or online store?
 
Siri 2010 “sorry I can’t help with that ”

Siri 2011 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2012 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2013 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2014 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2015 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2016 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2018 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2019 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2020 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2021 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2022 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Siri 2023 “sorry I can’t help with that”

Hmm 🤔 I wonder what Siri 2024 will bring us?
 
Every goddamn year. As long as that pedophile Tim Cook is in charge, Siri will never work properly
The fact that "pedophile" is your go-to insult says a LOT about who you are as a person.....and probably not things you WANT to be said. And that's not even touching on the fact that Siris improving or not has 0 relation to if the person in charge is a pedophile or not.

Learn to adult.
 
I think, this could be something like their own GPT integration with Siri, since we also had been hearing rumours about Apple developing their own GPT Engine, making Siri way better than any assistants out there
 
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Apple's Siri personal assistant has long been criticized for being notably behind voice assistants from other companies like Google and Alexa, primarily due to Apple's focus on security and privacy. Many Siri tasks are performed on-device rather than through a cloud server, so Apple will need to find a balance between privacy and functionality with the adoption of language models for Siri.

Sorry, but I'm tired of seeing this excuse trotted out. Siri's utter crappiness has nothing to do with respecting privacy. The constant disappointments are not because it doesn't have access to the data it needs. It's because they bought a dead-end product more than a decade ago and never properly addressed it until they fell way behind.

Just one recent example. I told Siri to remind me when I get home to do a thing. I could see that it understood me correctly. It knows where my home is. It has access to my Reminders. Yet it failed because I had cellular data turned off. It worked when I turned it back on.

Why on Earth does that need to go out to the Internet? How does that have anything to do with respecting privacy? All of that information was available offline, on device.

They've claimed for two years now that Siri can do a lot of things on-device, yet every single non-trivial thing I've ever tried requires Internet access.
 
Sorry, but I'm tired of seeing this excuse trotted out. Siri's utter crappiness has nothing to do with respecting privacy. The constant disappointments are not because it doesn't have access to the data it needs. It's because they bought a dead-end product more than a decade ago and never properly addressed it until they fell way behind.

Just one recent example. I told Siri to remind me when I get home to do a thing. I could see that it understood me correctly. It knows where my home is. It has access to my Reminders. Yet it failed because I had cellular data turned off. It worked when I turned it back on.

Why on Earth does that need to go out to the Internet? How does that have anything to do with respecting privacy? All of that information was available offline, on device.

They've claimed for two years now that Siri can do a lot of things on-device, yet every single non-trivial thing I've ever tried requires Internet access.
My favorite thing is when she can’t answer a very basic question while I’m driving. I have to wait until I’m parked for her to give any coherent response. Whereas Google assistant on Android will give a detailed audio response. I also hate when there’s lag and she keeps saying “just a sec” several times followed by “sorry I can’t help with that.” I also love when I ask her to play songs from an artist on Apple Music like “play River Flows In You by Yiruma” and she’s like “Okay. Playing Drop It Like It’s Hot by Lil Wayne.”
 
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For home related stuff, Siri works well. I have free security video upload through Apple, I can open and close gates, turn lights on and play music. I can ask for temperature readings in most rooms (with HomePod Mini and Eve temp gauges).

If I want to find something out on the web, I would definitely not trust Google or Alexa to do it for me.

Why are people trying to outsource and lose control of their research to an advertising company or online store?
I don’t search for anything overly personal on the web through Alexa. I order stuff on Amazon like Nespresso pods. I use Alexa for timer, recipes, weather, music, announcement, etc. I just find Alexa to be far more consistent and thorough for the intended use. I don’t trust Apple’s privacy in any case. I have a conversation about literally anything and yet I get an advertisement for that very product, location, vehicle, on my Instagram. Can’t blame Instagram as either Apple allows Instagram to use microphone unauthorized (I have microphone and photos access turned off for Instagram anyway) or Apple doesn’t have code to prevent apps from actually listening. In either case, that’s on Apple. I have “Siri” voice activated turned off and have for years, and yet my phone still seems to listen to me regardless.
 
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I feel like we heard this 10 years ago and it's still about as bad as it was when new. It's insane to me that Siri in 2023 and 2024 still won't be as good as Google Asst. was when it debuted. Can't do or answer **** unless you pick up your phone and unlock it. Just CRAZY how awful Siri is.

It always answers from the wrong device. I can be on my phone and try to tell it to stop the music, and an iPad from across the house answers me and says there's nothing to stop! Then I'll get in the shower and tell a device in the bathroom to play music and it starts BLASTING music on my stereo HomePods downstairs. Obviously, I can't stop it using any commands from any device until I go downstairs and tell the HomePods directly to stop. I think maybe once in a while I've gotten it to stop an alarm on a different device. Maybe. I think that was Siri's best achievement I've ever seen, and I feel like it has worked 10% of the time.
 
I’d settle for it just to reliably play the playlist I ask, instead of half the time pulling some random crap.
 
Sorry, but I'm tired of seeing this excuse trotted out. Siri's utter crappiness has nothing to do with respecting privacy. The constant disappointments are not because it doesn't have access to the data it needs. It's because they bought a dead-end product more than a decade ago and never properly addressed it until they fell way behind.
Nothing is a ridiculous claim. Is it entirely responsible for its failings? Doubtful, but don’t pretend for a second that Google/Alexa got so good because they were focussed on privacy. On the contrary, I believe they improved so rapidly because they care nothing about your privacy and invade it as much as they legally, or illegally can.

Just one recent example. I told Siri to remind me when I get home to do a thing. I could see that it understood me correctly. It knows where my home is. It has access to my Reminders. Yet it failed because I had cellular data turned off. It worked when I turned it back on.
I have found when using Siri, they way we articulate words is more important than with the advertising and sales company versions. The reasons it needs to be connected to the internet? Like the others, they’re cloud based. It does some pre processing on the device, but the main works still done in the cloud. How smart are Google & Alexa when not connected? So one rule for them, and one for Apple?
I don’t search for anything overly personal on the web through Alexa. I order stuff on Amazon like Nespresso pods. I use Alexa for timer, recipes, weather, music, announcement, etc. I just find Alexa to be far more consistent and thorough for the intended use. I don’t trust Apple’s privacy in any case. I have a conversation about literally anything and yet I get an advertisement for that very product, location, vehicle, on my Instagram. Can’t blame Instagram as either Apple allows Instagram to use microphone unauthorized (I have microphone and photos access turned off for Instagram anyway) or Apple doesn’t have code to prevent apps from actually listening. In either case, that’s on Apple. I have “Siri” voice activated turned off and have for years, and yet my phone still seems to listen to me regardless.
You do know that Instagram is Facebook, right? And you gave your rights to privacy away when you put it on your device. Here’s the test. Does the same thing happen with Android, or is it less or more?
 
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