iOS 6 to Bring Systemwide Facebook Integration

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Just because you don't want it doesn't mean others don't. Many apps use Facebook to login (thereby preventing the ordeal of going through signing up for a new account with the app itself). If you don't like the integration, you can simply choose not to use it.

Steve Jobs would disagree.

Its a majority that don't want it. And if it were Steve Jobs still running the show, this facebook debacle would never happen.

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This is overstating it a bit, but there is probably a lot of truth to this. People get on Facebook as a need to validate themselves due to having no real human social skills. It's sad, really.

Bull…

No, he's right on. Look at Zuckerberg. Dude is one of the most socially inept people on this planet.... hence his creation.

 

[Mr. Gates]

So , is it a good time to buy Facebook stock

 

[SteveAbootman]

Meh... I never use the Twitter integration now. Doubt I'll use FB if introduced.

Too many people have Sharing Syndrome - The need to constantly validate their lives by posting inane details in the hope that others "like" it.

 

[AidenShaw]

Originally Posted by cardinalryan
This is overstating it a bit, but there is probably a lot of truth to this. People get on Facebook as a need to validate themselves due to having no real human social skills. It's sad, really.

Bull…

Do you realize that you've helped to prove the "no social skills" argument?

 

[charlituna]

I like but rarely use Twitter integration and although I'm on Facebook I, for one, do not want to see it integrated into my iOS or OSX environments, hopefully one can assume that this can be switched off in preferences.

you have to log in to use any of it so just don't

 

[AidenShaw]

you have to log in to use any of it so just don't

...unless it remembers your user/pass, and automatically logs in.

 

[charlituna]

Secondly, why is Apple making the choice for us? It's not that Facebook is the only social network.

Correct it's not. Neither is Twitter and yet last year Apple made that choice for us. So now it seems they are actually giving us a choice.

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Facebook and twitter may also integrate with the Apple TV OS...

if it means that when someone decides to stream a movie online for free via their Facebook page like that whole Casablanca thing I can watch it on my TV via my ATV, that might not be so bad

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...unless it remembers your user/pass, and automatically logs in.

And how exactly is it going to remember information you haven't given it

 

[Lynn Belvedere]

Well, I'm Officially Staying Away From iOS 6

Facebook sucks.

 

[Murgatroyd314]

And you can do the same thing on FB by creating a dummy account

Like I said, you're responsible for information you volunteer. If you don't want people to know who you are, don't volunteer info that tells them who you are.

And there's the catch. The information Facebook receives about you is far more than just what you think you're volunteering. Every site you visit that has a facebook widget on it? That's another data point in their profile of who you are. Every "like" button? Likewise. Every app you use your account to sign into? I think you get the picture. It isn't just what you tell them; it's what they see you do.

 

[charlituna]

Do we get SPAM in the system wide integrated Facebook news feed?

What feed.

This is likely to follow the same model as the Twitter integration which is one way. your phone to your feed. You want to see the feed you get the app for the service. or go to the mobile website

this is basically the iOS version of the OS X stuff like being able to upload from iPhoto to Facebook or Flicker or iMovie to Facebook, youtube etc.

now perhaps at some point they will turn on that you can choose to see you Twitter or Facebook in Messages or Mail but then again they might not

 

[louis Fashion]

Lend me your comb

And how exactly is it going to remember information you haven't given it?


Cookie?

 

[radiogoober]

Meh... I never use the Twitter integration now. Doubt I'll use FB if introduced.

Too many people have Sharing Syndrome - The need to constantly validate their lives by posting inane details in the hope that others "like" it.

Ugh! I'm so glad I don't have a Facebook account. At family dinners some of our weirder members are always taking pictures of everyone and apparently put them on facebook immediately. And apparently they do something called "checking in" where they put "I'm at the mexican restaurant!" ... My wife read me some of the "status updates" that people write. Absolutely pathetic.

 

[charlituna]

One problem with iOS is that, even if you don't have a Twitter account enabled under settings, you still get the "tweet" menu option in several apps. Hell, even if you deny those apps access to Twitter, you STILL get the menu option (and an error if you try to use it).

you ignore it. the same way you ignore the print button you can't use because you don't have an AirPrint compat printer.

 

[radiogoober]

The button itself is a system wide set item. Can't be removed, same as the "Send as Message" or "Email" buttons. I would gather the "Post to FB" button will always be on. However it would be nice to hide if you don't want to see it.

Honestly, it's ridiculous that this isn't automatically hidden. It would *make sense* to code it such that if there were no Twitter or FaceBook login details in the system preferences that it simply wouldn't show those options in the action sheet. Sadly, I'd guess that Apple made them be there by default so that people could see them and say "Oh cool!" and then click them to type in their details.

 

[louis Fashion]

Jail Break

Can't you remove system icons with some hack? Just ask'n.

 

[AidenShaw]

My wife read me some of the "status updates" that people write. Absolutely pathetic.

We can only hope that these misfits are updating their facebook pages while driving, and they hit trees off the road without hurting anyone else.

It's called "cleansing the gene pool".

 

[charlituna]

Sadly I think that this is going to be Apples "replacement" for Gallery. Ug.

They already have their replacement. It's called Journals. You sign up for iCloud and pay $4.99 for iPhoto for iOS and you can use it too.

 

[StyxMaker]

…including all the people who use it without really understanding what they give up for their 'free' service'…

Since I never share anything I don't want general public to know about me, what have I had to 'give up' for the free service?

 

[charlituna]

and this is Tim Cook's Apple now, not Steve Jobs....

Supposedly part of those terms, which Steve rejected and thought he could convince Facebook to drop (which is why the code was there until the 23rd hour) was access to folks demo data and buying history. These are things that Apple protects strongly as part of their privacy policy and Steve refused to give either up to anyone be it Facebook, Adsense, magazine publishers etc.

And I suspect that Tim Cook feels the same. They allow apps that want to use Facebook log in to do so. same with website and yes they have the APIs built in for Facebook uploads on OS X and soon it seems iOS but they aren't likely to give Facebook any info now just like before. And yes I do expect we might see Facebook connect in Ping if it isn't killed off. A part of me hopes not because it isn't that bad of a service for tracking bands you care about. It's mostly the whole "what your friends like" part that sucks. But I have gone to a few shows and remembered to check out a few albums because of the band notices. If anything I wish they would open it up. Seems like it's still just label connected groups and not independently published stuff (which is the bulk of what I'd like notices on since they are harder to track by other means)

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Android does this and quite well. Most apps have a share button that allows to to post something with another app. Works extremely well. Apple should do something like this.

They already do. Have for a while although until last year it was limited to sharing by email. then they added Twitter and now it seems Facebook, possibly Google+, Flickr etc also.

 

[Murgatroyd314]

We can only hope that these misfits are updating their facebook pages while driving, and they hit trees off the road without hurting anyone else.

It's called "cleansing the gene pool".

Why would you wish that on an innocent tree?

 

[charlituna]

As long as your definition of "foreseeable" is +/- 3 years.

It's a toy. Someday someone will come along with a newer and shinier toy and that'll be the end of it.

some folks would say that about your iPhone and iPad so it's appropriate that the two toys are linked

 

[louis Fashion]

Post of the Day

I swear no other thread on this site has ever frustrated me more than this one.

--- The above quote cannot be true. What about all the Appleistas posting photos of iPad/iPhone boxes being opened. You know who you are......

 

[iPadPublisher]

This is completely unimportant to me. I don't do Facebook. The first time they had a major privacy problem, I deleted my account and never looked back.

But it won't hurt anything either, so to each his own. I'm sure it's a smart move overall.

 

[Liquorpuki]

And there's the catch. The information Facebook receives about you is far more than just what you think you're volunteering. Every site you visit that has a facebook widget on it? That's another data point in their profile of who you are. Every "like" button? Likewise. Every app you use your account to sign into? I think you get the picture. It isn't just what you tell them; it's what they see you do.

The dummy account negates that but I understand what you're getting at

But what you're talking about, doing things that can be linked to you via data analytics, is because of the participatory nature of the internet in general, not just FB. I can comb through old posts of members on this message board and figure out what they like or what they read. Every article that has a like button also has a +1 or a tweet button. So it makes no sense to me people are going, I'm sticking with twitter, I don't want to deal with FB and their privacy issues. Both companies do the same exact thing - use your profile and data analytics to monetize off ads. And message boards like this one are like a giant personal data dump.

I also gotta ask who THEY is and if THEY actually exist or are just a personified abstraction to make people paranoid. I'm supposed to be scared of THEM because they can run data analytics that show I read some random article. Meanwhile I shouldn't be as paranoid about companies that have my banking information, social security #'s, AKA more potentially damaging info? And I shouldn't be paranoid about posting on a message board where there are no privacy controls and personal information is freely exchanged with strangers for debate purposes? This is overblown

 

[Lynn Belvedere]

Since I never share anything I don't want general public to know about me, what have I had to 'give up' for the free service?

Your dignity and self-worth.