iOS 6 to Bring Systemwide Facebook Integration

[mgauss7]

IRS auditors and lawyers suing you check your Facebook info

There they have pictures of you and your friends, assets, everything. 90% of the information is placed there by your friends. Soon there will be movies and books of criminals casing and robbing you and worse with the information they get from Facebook about you and your family.

 

[OllyW]

you need facebook to access spotify for example

No you don't...



It's still just an option.

 

[SeattleMoose]

Yes By All Means....

Let's make it easier for the lemmings to jump off the cliff

 

[BlindMellon]

This will be right up there with my iPhone/Twitter, FaceTime and Siri use. I hope iOS6 has more going for it than that.

 

[derbothaus]

Go ahead, downvote me - I find people that seem to piss all over Facebook FAR more annoying than Facebook is. It's just so cool to hate the popular stuff, right?

It's a fun place to check up on friends, family, co-workers, etc. I get to see old friends and classmates that I hadn't kept up with in over a decade through Facebook.
I can see what family members are up to that live a thousand miles away.
It's a super easy way to share photos. Instead of bringing a stack of photos to a friend/family members' house, I just tell them to check Facebook.
It even acts as a centralized account system! Other sites & apps authenticate through Facebook now.

But ... it's really popular now. So all the hip people like to say how TERRIBLE it is. The reasons people give for hating Facebook just seem stupid.

You are a child. Or at the very least tech illiterate. Having a company the virtual front end of government based database intentions is not a "stupid" reason to avoid Facebook. It is THE reason. But go ahead give it up to a corporate entity that has already proven it's intentions. To help the good ol' control of citizens any way it can. Not even some respectable Google stand-off to pressure. Just total folding. Probably crafting policy right now with both branches,

 

[forrie]

No

No thanks. That is unbelievably stupid for Apple to get far into bed with FB; a trick is fine, but now they're going all the way LOL

More reason to jailbreak the device and block access to/from FB's servers.

 

[Liquorpuki]

To be fair, people did mind Twitter.

Also, Facebook is not the same kind of social networking that Twitter is. Twitter is quick and easy messaging, and that's what they are really good at. Funny how when Facebook was going IPO all the news stations were saying "Tweet us what you think about the Facebook IPO".

Only difference is FB has negative brand recognition to a lot more people. Then again that's because have a larger active user base and valuation. Both twitter and FB do the same thing - Use your profile and what you willingly post to their servers monetize off ads. And Google was doing this a long time ago and even going further by scanning gmail inboxes.

The notion that Twitter is okay and FB isn't is subjective and held by people who like Twitter and don't like FB. They both make money off you the exact same way and they both have access to the same exact info.

Can someone please tell me what these nefarious things facebook is doing with our information? I really want an example. I'm trying not to be too much of a smart ass but really? what are these dire plans that we should be so afraid of?

I know the whole "selling your info" well okay? how has that negatively affected your life? and how does an advertiser knowing you are a 30 year old male that posts about sweaters daily really going to bring the apocalypse?

I don't get it either. FB is the poster child for some nefarious govt conspiracy that supposedly exists but nobody can provide evidence for it or talk about without using platitudes. Meanwhile people got no problem using Twitter or G+ or some other social network when they use the exact same business model as FB.

 

[kiljoy616]

how not excited

Better bring a new iTune app for the iPad because the one that is there now is almost useless. Bring back the one in os 4 any day.

 

[Obi-Wan Kubrick]

Why all the Facebook hate? I use it daily and it's quite entertaining. When ever I run into people they tell me how funny my facebook feed is. I use facebook for good.

I don't have a Twitter account and was annoyed how iOS5 supported it since I don't use Twitter.

 

[Jimbo47]

You can block notifications from such apps...

I've blocked all notifications from facebook via the app, the settings menu in iOS and on facebooks website, and yet still get countless notifications for farmville and now get bombarded with "my birthday calendar" requests. Facebook is a mess.

 

[Wordsmithmac]

In all of my web browsing I've never found a website that wouldn't give me access unless I gave them my Fb account information. Please give me an example of one of these websites.

websites with comment systems like bgr and others require fb to post. spotify bugs me everytime I open it to "share' on fb. last time a huge popup slowed me from listening to a song i wanted. Facebookconnect when blocked from several websites cause the sites to not run properly, I use scriptno on chrome and it blocks everything FB and the sites run badly but soon as i enable FB its all good, sites run good. So many sites have deep integration with FB and shutting down FB screws up using the site.

Just because YOU don't have issues doesn't mean ANYONE ELSE doesn't.

Even newsarama requires fb, a lot of sites require fb pages for you to comment/get product info.

Plus as I said they started that people you may know thing with contacts from an OLD account I deactivated last YEAR.

Facebook is too nosy and too involved in lives, I like my privacy and don't like being told I need a fb to enter a site or get info from a site.

iOS doesn't need FB, twitter is fine since they don't require what FB does but FB will require usage data even when you aren't signed in. Their stock is a dog they need more ad info to make revenue even if someone never uses Fb on their idevice FB will still get info that weren't intended to get.

This isn't the Apple of Jobs anymore.

 

[StyxMaker]

Paranoia runs deep at MR.

 

[iAmUndefined]

Haha

It's funny how all these nerds say "I hate Facebook I'd rather talk to people in real life" when in reality they don't use it because they have no friends and Facebook shows them that.

Over 900 million people use it and love it so your complaining on a nerd site isn't going to solve anything.

 

[gri]

It's funny how all these nerds say "I hate Facebook I'd rather talk to people in real life" when in reality they don't use it because they have no friends and Facebook shows them that.

Over 900 million people use it and love it so your complaining on a nerd site isn't going to solve anything.

Your statement makes no sense.

 

[50548]

This works just like the Twitter integration, YOU have to sign in. YOU have to give explicit permission for FB to integrate. This does not happen IF YOU DON'T SIGN IN.

Just like the Twitter integration.

Again... Don't sign in. Simples.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Explain to me how Facebook is going to "track you" if you don't sign in for FB integration? Please. Explain how.

w00master

I really don't know if "W00master" and others are just recent switchers who know little about Macs and iOS, or if they really believe what they are saying.

As I explained above, it would be extremely simple if we were talking about a single social networking app that you can activate or not. But as the main article already states:

"tons of apps use Facebook for sign-ups and authentication (many use Facebook as the only way to do this, to the dismay of some)"

He asked me for examples; but I won't do that for two basic reasons:

- It's far too easy and obvious to find these hundreds if not thousands of "FB-driven apps"; so just do your own homework instead of asking for others to show you that;

- I had a horrible day dealing with kidney stones.

My point being, again: system-level support for FB will simply increase, on an exponential basis, the number of apps forcing you to not only use FB, but worse, to expose such app usage on your main page (sorry, wife and friends make me have a FB account, which is fine for social exchanges but NOT fine for showing private usage patterns).

As for comparisons with Twitter, they are totally uncalled for and inapplicable to the case in question. Twitter is just a short public message vehicle, and it does not make you publish every single thing you do in a given day. FB, on the other hand, pervades through thousands of apps without giving you an easy option (if at all) to block posting usage patterns, such as "user X just played You Are Smarter Than A 5th Grader!" or similar crap.

If Apple is able to integrate it with an API that does not require people to show what they are doing, fine. But I just can't believe they are gonna be able to pull that off, since this constitutes FB's very reason to exist. Or as a developer friend of mine once said, "forced FB logins are great because they are easy to implement." Just like Windows in the good ol' monopoly days.

 

[Smith288]

I'll actually pay more to not have facebook on my phone

Pay me $500 and then don't install the FB app. Done.

 

[Liquorpuki]

My point being, again: system-level support for FB will simply increase, on an exponential basis, the number of apps forcing you to not only use FB, but worse, to expose such app usage on your main page (sorry, wife and friends make me have a FB account, which is fine for social exchanges but NOT fine for showing private usage patterns).

Use privacy controls to BLOCK what is shown on your feed so people don't know what you're doing. Block whoever is annoying so you don't have to see their stuff every day. I hate that stuff too, which is why I blocked all of it

As for comparisons with Twitter, they are totally uncalled for and inapplicable to the case in question. Twitter is just a short public message vehicle, and it does not make you publish every single thing you do in a given day. FB, on the other hand, pervades through thousands of apps without giving you an easy option (if at all) to block posting usage patterns, such as "user X just played You Are Smarter Than A 5th Grader!" or similar crap.

The comparison is appropriate because they're both social networks with access to the same type of information and use that info the same way (to monetize off personalized ads). Twitter also gets spammed with the same crap (IE I just beat ___ by 60 points! Think you can beat me?! #GamesWithFriends). Only difference is twitter is not a gaming platform so it can't host flash games from Zynga. But you do the same stuff - post your picture, post a profile, show what article you read, show your social connections, geolocate where you're at, etc. So it's hypocritical people don't have a problem with twitter but think FB is out to get em

 

[AppleGuesser]

Paranoia runs deep at MR.

I can't wait for Friendster support baked into iOS 6 or 7

 

[thefourthpope]

Facebook is not a social life-replacement. For many people, it augments their social life in great ways. This idea that anyone that uses it is a recluse and therefore not worth catering to with technological solutions is ridiculous.

There are meaningful use cases. Just because you don't have one doesn't mean others shouldn't either.

Well said.

 

[coltman75]

Its a majority that don't want it. And if it were Steve Jobs still running the show, this facebook debacle would never happen.

I hope you're joking. A majority that don't want it?! I asked around. Of the 14 friends and family that I asked, all 14 said that they would like to be able to share straight from the camera app, and they'd like to have Facebook integrated into the phone. Also, all 14 said that they would use the button regularly.

I know it's a small sample space, but I think you see the trend. Just because you don't want it doesn't make your opinion the majority opinion.

 

[thefourthpope]

You are a child. Or at the very least tech illiterate. Having a company the virtual front end of government based database intentions is not a "stupid" reason to avoid Facebook. It is THE reason. But go ahead give it up to a corporate entity that has already proven it's intentions. To help the good ol' control of citizens any way it can. Not even some respectable Google stand-off to pressure. Just total folding. Probably crafting policy right now with both branches,

You are insulting. And at the very least using hyperbole.
I take it you're referencing some fictional back room dealing where zuckerberg and obama plot to put your whole life in a spreadsheet? But somehow zuckerberg hasn't made the same deal with leaders in other countries where Facebook and other social networking sites continue to offer some of the best opportunities to rally anti-gov sentiment?

 

[Steve62]

FB is a bad strategy...

I deleted my FB account. Instead I have a garden and children and a real fire to sit beside talking to my real family. What is it with folk that they think FB is a valid alternative to reality?

Is it just me that thinks Apple is losing direction? I see a case for spinning off the Computer Apple Company as a separate IPO. Current Apple seems to be ignoring that. After all, we don't all want to be 'cool' with our iPads. To be fair, the iPhone is great, Twitter is not used and neither will FB get used in IOS 6 on mine.

Let's have more computer technology leaps Apple, there's more to life than FB on an iPhone or iPad.

 

[w00master]

I really don't know if "W00master" and others are just recent switchers who know little about Macs and iOS, or if they really believe what they are saying.

Really? Check my Macrumors join date and compare it to yours. Really? You're going to go there?



Sorry, but I've been an Apple user since 1979. Give me a break.

You still sound like those who need to take their tin foil hat off.

w00master

 

[XX55XX]

Everytime I see a story on the Internet about Facebook (good or bad), most of the comments will be from people who "hate" it and want it burnt to the ground.

It's about options. A lot of people still use Facebook. I personally find it useful in terms of keeping in touch with people and learning about news on new products or services from my favorite companies. Furthermore, I have used Facebook to help coordinate in-person meetups with real people. It does augment one's social life in many ways and is not necessarily the narcissist's playground that many places have declared it to be.

At the same time, Facebook is harvesting user data in order to generate money from it. If it concerns you so much, then append your last name and share as little information as possible about yourself.

 

[StyxMaker]

I deleted my FB account. Instead I have a garden and children and a real fire to sit beside talking to my real family. What is it with folk that they think FB is a valid alternative to reality? …

What is it with idiots like you who think that Facebook users are attempting to replace reality with Facebook? I have a sister who lives 300 miles away, we get together face to face as often as possible. In between times Facebook and Twitter are just two of many methods we use to communicate. I have several friends who I do Scottish Country dancing with, in between dancing get togethers we use Facebook (and Twitter, email, texting, etc.) to keep in touch. Social networking just makes it easier for me to keep in contact with friends and family inbetween face to face encounters.

The RSCDS (Royal Scottish Country Dance Society) branch that I belong to recently danced as part of the Green show at the Ashland Shakespeare festival. Facebook was just one of the many ways we planned that appearence.