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You know, I bet that the majority of people freaking out over this in this thread are reading MacRumours via Google Reader and then searching for things with Google search and then posting about it to their friends on Gmail......
 
Frankly I'm very surprised that first Apple marries Twitter, then gets in bed with Facebook. If Apple added their apps as standard, that would be bad enough. (like bloatware on a PC) But to have them "Baked In" that takes it to a whole new level.

Apple can be so hypocritical. One minute their bragging about keeping it pure Apple, secure and devoid of outside influence, the next minute they're forcing "features" on us that are only there for one reason... To increase Apples revenues.

Who knows why Zuck & Apple have fallen in love, but one things for certain. The Apple apologists and followers will fawn over this new development. At a bare minimum it'll help sell even more phones which is all Apple cares about.

Yes, Yes, I know, it can be ignored, turned off, not used, etc. But that's not the point... Not even close.

BLEH!

Just like I would not want an OBAMA or ROMNEY bumper sticker on my car, I feel the same way about Twitter and Facebook. They cheapen the experience.

It does not matter to me if I have the ability to turn them off or not. I still see the nasty little logos and know the bits are there in the OS. My iPad (3rd gen) cost me a pretty penny. It's not an ordinary "Slablet".

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You know, I bet that the majority of people freaking out over this in this thread are reading MacRumours via Google Reader and then searching for things with Google search and then posting about it to their friends on Gmail......

Not at all. Some of us just prefer to have a clean OS without another companies junk thrown in to make some people happy. It's a about personal preference.
 
As a developer, I very much welcome some official Facebook APIs integrated into the iOS SDK.

I'd love a straight forward way of just dragging and dropping a Like button in Interface Builder and having Apple automatically handle making sure the person is logged into Facebook and whatnot.

As a user, I understand users dislike being forced to log in, so of course it won't be required. I'll probably just use the Facebook APIs to allow users to easily share screenshots / status updates / likes without having to leave the app ever. My users will be free to ignore the fact that Facebook is integrated. (Heck, maybe I'll even offer a simple toggle to have it not even mention the Facebook capabilities.)
 
Personally I don't care for widgets. I have an android device and hate it, I also have a WP 7 phone and like it. I love my iPhone 4S and new iPad. Why? Because of the lack of annoying widgets taking up valuable screen real estate.

I didn't knew that using widgets were mandatory on Android
 
Oh the irony, Facebook is changing it's privacy policies because of a audit by the Irish Data Protection Commissioner even though the audit said it was lawful, but reading the info it again came about after users realized FB had retained their deleted content:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/05/11/facebook-privacy-policy-changes/

And apparently FB is looking into targeting you with ads when you log into non FB sites with your FB account....

You can apparently vote for or against the changes as they have been forced to allow this:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/01/fa...-to-put-policy-changes-up-for-worldwide-vote/

Did you even read the second article you posted? That article actually portrays FB favorably compared to other social networks and says Schrems is obstructing privacy protection by making unrealistic demands

Meanwhile Twitter stores all your data for the last 2 years and sells it to Datasift. Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo have all been cited and investigated repeatedly for data retention and privacy issues over the last decade

But let's all just pretend if the Man is really out to get you, he's only gonna use FB
 
You haven't been reading this thread. Facebook doesn't need you to sign in to an account. They keep profiles on people built purely on data-mining and the information supplied by other members. The only difference is the profile can't be viewed on their website.

Any proof for this?
 
Systemwide Facebook integration?

This isn't exactly what we need... Or better phrased: this isn't ALL that we need.

We need the sharing APIs that Android has. Every app should be able to tap into the sharing. Then everyone joins in on the fun, and we don't need Apple to work hand-in-hand with anyone in order to get us the simplest of features.
 
I read the complaint

The guy's "proof" is that FB asks for access to contacts. He's arguing that since FB asks for access to contacts which most likely include non FB members, it must be doing it because it's trying to create shadow profiles on non-members. That's not proof, that's speculation

It's a pretty good speculation. Everytime someone enters an address book they get a potential list of people who aren't already members. Let's start profiles for them! Then when someone else enters an address book that contain the same people Facebook can start drawing links between them, wait for phototags that are a possible match, etc and you can go far here.

I think you're making some assumption Facebook wouldn't want to do this because it would be too costly. The profile isn't public, there's no webhosting upkeep or photots to store. A shadow profile will only be a dozen or so kilobytes of collected information. And if those people ever do join, Facebook has a history of info all ready to go for them. In short, it would be poor sense (from a business perspective) not to be doing this.

I guess every social networking or social gaming company must be trying to create shadow profiles

They could be. Gives you a reason to not get involved with any of them to start with, doesn't it?
 
Facebook was partially funded by the CIA. It has an API for security agencies that allows them complete access to the info they have.

I still remember when Facebook would create pages for people that are mentioned by other or tagged on photos, without that person ever signing up or consenting to it. I have no doubt they continue to gather this information.

Proof? From a legit source too and not some fringe website where you can hear the tinfoil crinkle...
 
Then you can either buy another tablet or not install ios 6.

Then you will have no hint of FB integration to annoy you.
 
Yes, because everyone you know or care about is immediately accessible for face to face conversation.

And therein lies your problem. There is 0 (zero) necessity for superficial, kneejerk instant responses. It would actually do the world some good sometimes if people stopped tothink over what they were going to say every once in a while.
That being said, Twitter integration in iOS is well done, in the sense that, if you don't have a twitter account, it is very easy to ignore.
The only improvement Apple could make here is that when no Twitter informtion is provided, the relevant share options would simply not appear at all.
 
This makes me think of the time when Spotify got together with Facebook. Damn mess that was.

I hope Facebook will take the same route as Twitter in iOS but given Facebook's history we know they want more than the same integration as Twitter.
 
And therein lies your problem. There is 0 (zero) necessity for superficial, kneejerk instant responses. It would actually do the world some good sometimes if people stopped tothink over what they were going to say every once in a while.
That being said, Twitter integration in iOS is well done, in the sense that, if you don't have a twitter account, it is very easy to ignore.
The only improvement Apple could make here is that when no Twitter informtion is provided, the relevant share options would simply not appear at all.

And even if they aren't available face-to-face, there are other ways to communicate with them over the Internet besides Facebook. Like this quaint technology called email. It's just as fast as posting back and forth on each other's Facebook walls but without some third-party company being intimately involved in analyzing your private lives to sell the information to marketers. Even using traditional IM would be better.

You don't need to use Facebook specifically to do all this stuff, they just want you to think that.
 
Everyone needs to make a choice about how they want to live in this very connected world. If you are paranoid about Facebook, you may also want to be paranoid about your voice provider, your ISP, your cable/fios provider, amazon, eBay, your credit card company, your bank - all of whom have a very telling picture of at least part of your daily lives. All of them make use of and in numerous cases sell that data. And really, the information the above folks have is far, far more valuable in the right hands than anything on Facebook, at least in my opinion.

Obviously I get everyone's point that your Facebook data may, with the right tools and know-how, be more easily obtainable. And a much smaller subset of people or entities who get that data might actually be able to turn it into something useful for someone. But I'm struggling to care. I can't bring myself to be self-centered enough to think that anything I've put on Facebook is that interesting to anyone but a few people, and to be honest, "a few people" might be overstating my case :D

For people who use Facebook, integration will be a nice addition. Facebook is simply a tool. If you don't use it, no need to deal with it. Pretty simple.
 
Finally. Can't believe Twitter made it through before Facebook.

Actually, I can't believe Twitter made it through at all.
 
Did you even read the second article you posted? That article actually portrays FB favorably compared to other social networks and says Schrems is obstructing privacy protection by making unrealistic demands

Meanwhile Twitter stores all your data for the last 2 years and sells it to Datasift. Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo have all been cited and investigated repeatedly for data retention and privacy issues over the last decade

But let's all just pretend if the Man is really out to get you, he's only gonna use FB

Yes I did read it, and the 'unfair demands' are allowed due to Facebooks OWN policy's on the voting! So don't try that one. It's their own fault.

And as for Twitter.... hahahahahaha, ok, go on an post a link where it state Twitter has been investigated by almost every government around the globe for breaches on data protection and abusing users privacy!

And also in those articles it is AGAIN surrounding users AGAIN using freedom of data acts to gain access to the data they deleted of Facebook only AGAIN for it to be discovered FB is holding all that deleted data.
 
And even if they aren't available face-to-face, there are other ways to communicate with them over the Internet besides Facebook. Like this quaint technology called email. It's just as fast as posting back and forth on each other's Facebook walls but without some third-party company being intimately involved in analyzing your private lives to sell the information to marketers. Even using traditional IM would be better.

You don't need to use Facebook specifically to do all this stuff, they just want you to think that.

You might want to consider going back to the quaint technology known as pen and paper and the postal system. Your ISP is at this very moment beavering away to cobble together information about you to sell to marketers or at the very least to figure out how to up-sell you on their own products. While they may not (.... or maybe they do, you just never know ;)) read your emails, you can bet they've got an eagle eye out on whatever they get off of the massive quantity of data you produce each day.
 
I do not use twitter or Facebook. I'd like to see in iOS 6 that if a user has not installed/set up twitter or Facebook that iOS 6 is smart enough to take away the options to post something (photo, link etc) to Facebook or twitter.
 
The clear conclusion from this thread: NO to system-wide Mark Sugarloaf's FB integration.

Case closed.

Because an internet forum, typically full of sensationalistic posters, knows what's best for the iPhone? :rolleyes:

How about this? The clear conclusion from rational people: Don't log in if you don't want Facebook integration.
 
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