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Apple makes a retina display to clearly see every detail, but then remove the detail from the OS.
Cant wait until this whole "flat" fad is over.

I love your statement, I wish Steve was still here to teach Ivy some lessons.
 
I envy them D:

But do all their phone just suddenly stopped working or certain apps of just stopped working out of no where?

Also, you know what? Google update their entire Apps through Play Store. You can go ahead download the latest Play Store, Google Hangout, Google Camera, Google Maps, Google Drive, YouTube, Google Play Music, Google Gmail...
 
Apple isn't forcing anyone to update.. if you want to stick with iOS 6, go for it. However, to expect them to keep updating an old version because you don't want want to update.. is ridiculous. What happens when iOS 8 comes out or you need a new phone?? Enjoy your bugs, security issues, and old phone.

Nobody wants 6 to be updated, they just want it to run as it did when they bought the device. They don't want new feature. They just don't want features to be taken away.

How **cking hard is that for people to understand.

Some people buy a phone and it lasts them 4 or 5 years. Not everybody wastes money on a new phone every year or so because they want to look cool.

The devices should work as sold for the entirety of their life. Apple are just being a bunch of c****s.
 
OMG. On ios 4 ??????? NO way. How could someone do this ? How could they still leave the house ? What if someone will see them ? Oh the shame... So antiquated.

Unlike all the ios 7 users.. They have such a strong fashion sense. I bet they all match their shirt with the ios 7 background. That's how you do it. BRAVO ios 7 users BRAVO ! :D


To each his own of course. I'm not going to look down on someone who doesn't update. Just a bit shocked that in all that time they wouldn't have updated. Though I suppose they didn't introduce OTA updates until 5, so maybe she just can't be bothered to go through the process of plugging it in and waiting for it to backup/update.
 
Bad example. In order to upgrade your TV you have to spend hard earned money, or not so hard earned, depending on your situation. This issue has a simple and absolutely free solution, with no cost to the user at all.

It seems you, like many posters here haven't tried to run iOS7 on older devices. It's GARBAGE and there is NO justification for it. Why would a stipped down OS with empty UIs and barely any graphics run at half the speed as its predecessor? Forcing users onto iOS7 serves one purpose - to make them immediately want to upgrade the hardware.
 
I would upgrade to iOS 7, the problem however is that iOS 7 uses pixel dithering which hurts my eyes. iOS 6 does not use dithering, at least not in native apps. I hope there will be a solution for affected users.

Spread the word so Apple get aware of this problem.

It also uses quantum dot illumination which is probably even worse for your eyes. :D
 
7's fine, but iOS 6 was better for older parents / grandparents to understand

Thank you Apple. The family tech support calls (to me) just shot up 400%.

Great, beautiful products BTW. However, this forced move creates an air of bad faith to some of your older customer base (and is merely mildly off-putting to me.)

To those saying "just upgrade and get over 7 already", and Apple: I personally have no problem with iOS 7, even on some older hardware - it works well enough. However, for certain older baby boomers in my family, who were given iPads as their very first Apple gift / product - iOS 7 is problematic.

You cannot deny the visual design of iOS 6 was easier to understand as a new user. There was a benefit to some of the skeuomorphism techniques. Icons and interface looked like the FUNCTIONS they represented. Granted, the visual language was aging, but it was UNDERSTOOD. I understand that with iOS 7, the "training wheels" are off, and it's time to move forward, but the interface was SO STRIPPED BARE that it becomes an abstraction of functions, and is much more difficult for older users to understand. Apple even understood this, and brought back "button shapes" in the accessibility settings in the second to last update.

By using a combination of "text as buttons" (looking to me too much like hyperlinked text of old) and the stripping away of too many shapes / gradients makes iOS 7 much more difficult to learn. It sacrificed a fairly unified design language for one that seems to contradict itself too often.

I like iOS 7's features, believe me.

But for my 70+ year old relative who was given her first iPad and loves it, the design language of iOS 7 is a stumbling block.

Oh, and Facetime is truly simple, wonderful, and used often. It really brings family members scattered across the country together in a way phone calls do not.
 
It seems you, like many posters here haven't tried to run iOS7 on older devices. It's GARBAGE and there is NO justification for it. Why would a stipped down OS with empty UIs and barely any graphics run at half the speed as its predecessor? Forcing users onto iOS7 serves one purpose - to make them immediately want to upgrade the hardware.

AND no attempt by Apple, to optimize for iPad?
 
Haha, good move to get those last stubborn people to update to iOS 7. Bravo Apple, I approve. ;)

I doubt it was a bug out in just to cause upgrades. My guess is that the 'bug' is more tied into the SSL issue that 6.1.6 and 7.0.6 resolved. Folks on say an iPhone 5 running 6.1.4 would be hit by it but can't get 6.1.6 because Apple isn't signing said software for that hardware anymore.

Yes I know that some folks will hue and cry that it should be their choice to go to iOS 7 so Apple should be forced to give users the option and perhaps they should. Not so much be forced but just give up on the notion that folks will update and let them stay on the lower OS with the understanding that they may have issues. Kind of like how they are letting anyone sign up for the Mac OS seed program with similar warnings
 
That's weird, because it actually feels faster on my iPad 2 than iOS 6 did.

Go grab an iPad 2 with iOS 6 then go grab iPad 2 with iOS 7. iOS 7 runs terribly on iPad 3 and somewhat laggy on iPad 4... iOS 7 performance is no where near iOS 6 on these devices...
 
I seem to remember Java (Sun) pulling this once, and APC PowerChute doing it too. Certificates aren't that hard to update. You just have to WANT to update them...


Nope, they're quite easy. That's why Apple's already released the updates (6.1.6 and 7.0.4) with the new certificates. ;)

What the people who won't leave iOS 6 apparently fail to understand/just ignore is that iOS Software Update only checks for the latest version. It simply finds the latest version and downloads it to update. So, for devices compatible with iOS 7, that version is 7.0.4. There is no "select which version to update to", so it's physically impossible for Apple to push 6.1.6 to these devices without disabling updates to iOS 7 altogether, which they clearly aren't going to do.

The moral of the story is: move on with your life and update your device.


Nobody wants 6 to be updated, they just want it to run as it did when they bought the device. They don't want new feature. They just don't want features to be taken away.

How **cking hard is that for people to understand.

Some people buy a phone and it lasts them 4 or 5 years. Not everybody wastes money on a new phone every year or so because they want to look cool.

The devices should work as sold for the entirety of their life. Apple are just being a bunch of c****s.

These same people also want their device to have security flaws and have their data be vulnerable?

The device does work as sold. The only "*****" here are the whiners who refuse to update.
 
Well 6.1.6 is free, why cant I upgrade to that?

Because it was only released on devices that were not supported by 7, but I know you knew the answer to that, and you want to say it is bad for Apple to "restrict" the updating of an old version of software to old devices.

Apple always supports as many of its devices as it can on the latest versions of its OS's. It is something that sets it apart from all other mobile device manufacturers, and has been a source of praise and pride fir Apple. Now they are going to get berated simply because you don't like how that newest version looks? Pretty ridiculous. On the one hand the vocal minority criticizes Apple for not innovating enough, and on the other the vocal minority whines and cringes when they do just that and it doesn't turn out to be the comfy exact same thing that innovation was supposed to bring?

I'm not saying you particularly have voiced or hold these opposing views simultaneously, but it is pretty clear that you can never please everybody all of the time. Seems to me Apple is doing a very good job of pleasing most of the people most of the time.
 
Hey Apple will trade in my old iPod Touch for a new one for a good discount if you do not feel the need to fix it I mean really give me unlimited data for my iPhone and I will never have to worry about using my iPhone to listen my music in the cloud.


**** YOU AT&T!:mad:
 
Nope, they're quite easy. That's why Apple's already released the updates (6.1.6 and 7.0.4) with the new certificates. ;)

What the people who won't leave iOS 6 apparently fail to understand/just ignore is that iOS Software Update only checks for the latest version. It simply finds the latest version and downloads it to update. So, for devices compatible with iOS 7, that version is 7.0.4. There is no "select which version to update to", so it's physically impossible for Apple to push 6.1.6 to these devices without disabling updates to iOS 7 altogether, which they clearly aren't going to do.

The moral of the story is: move on with your life and update your device.

no the moral in your scenario is be a mindless muppet
 
This whole stubbornness of refusing to upgrade iOS 7 because of its new look is ridiculas and has gone on for too long. I got news for you, they're not changing the look anytime soon and if you want to buy an iPhone 6 this fall, your gonna have to get over it.

I have a friend that got upset when they updated his Droid 2 because he was familiar with the original texting app. Some people just don’t want to relearn something new. If it’s not broke why fix?
But for me I want the latest and greatest both in hardware and software. That’s why I gave up on the possibility of jailbreaking.
 
Go grab an iPad 2 with iOS 6 then go grab iPad 2 with iOS 7. iOS 7 runs terribly on iPad 3 and somewhat laggy on iPad 4... iOS 7 performance is no where near iOS 6 on these devices...

I actually tested out iOS 7 during the summer, and switched between that and iOS 6. Performance was very similar, and got faster with 7.1.

At least in my experience though, let's not turn this into an argument.
 
Nobody wants 6 to be updated, they just want it to run as it did when they bought the device. They don't want new feature. They just don't want features to be taken away.

How **cking hard is that for people to understand.

Some people buy a phone and it lasts them 4 or 5 years. Not everybody wastes money on a new phone every year or so because they want to look cool.

The devices should work as sold for the entirety of their life. Apple are just being a bunch of c****s.

Astroturfers will be astroturfers...
 
Nope, they're quite easy. That's why Apple's already released the updates (6.1.6 and 7.0.4) with the new certificates. ;)

What the people who won't leave iOS 6 apparently fail to understand/just ignore is that iOS Software Update only checks for the latest version. It simply finds the latest version and downloads it to update. So, for devices compatible with iOS 7, that version is 7.0.4. There is no "select which version to update to", so it's physically impossible for Apple to push 6.1.6 to these devices without disabling updates to iOS 7 altogether, which they clearly aren't going to do.

The moral of the story is: move on with your life and update your device.

How about change their update structure? Only check update for current version of OS? I do not believe a company capable to write bunch of operating system cannot alter their OS update structure. How about let user download the firmware and update by themselves? How about give user a list of update they can choose from?
 
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