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Glad they cleaned up the dialer to put the contacts to the top left. Don't know how many times my fat fingers hit the 2 on accident.
 
Whats the argument for NOT having a Location Services on/off switch in Control Centre?

Am I the only one who sees this as a huge missed opportunity? Or would Apple rather keep being a little sketchy about battery life/saving battery?

Either they want you to have a hard time accessing one of the most used features, and by default many people will turn Location Services on and leave it on while diminshing battery. Or they just goofed and totally missed that this might be useful, without having to go into settings, then scroll down to privacy, click location services, click on. Doesnt that seem silly to anyone else?
The argument is simply that the vast majority of people don't (or even need/want to) turn on or off their location services frequently enough, or really at all.
 
What do you see in the first column, Paid apps or Top Grossing apps?
It's pretty obvious based on the contents of each list. Top Grossing includes free apps (with IAP), and Paid has no free apps whatsoever. While the active item could be made clearer, this example doesn't work so well.

Whats the argument for NOT having a Location Services on/off switch in Control Centre?
I'm sure most people don't want to manage location services. If you want to take a picture quickly are you going to remember to turn it back it on? There is a lot of granularity in those preferences. You can set which apps can use your location, and don't need to be bothered again.
 
I know. If only we could have this back. This is proper UI design.

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This UI design still makes me shudder to this day. As much as the green felt in Game Center. These interfaces were just too in your face and the focus was way too much on the interface rather than the content the interface controlled. Some of the best apps back in pre-iOS 7 were already using an iOS 7-esque interface and were a pleasure to use because they focused on the content (i.e. Reeder with its text-heavy approach with minimal numbers of buttons and distractors). But again, to each their own. All phone UIs have given up on that aesthetic and are highly unlikely to retreat back there again.
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-hires-iphone-jailbreak-developer-2011-6

http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/08/26/apple-hires-jailbreaking-iphone-hacker-nicholas-allegra/

As far as hiring iOS jailbreakers, that is some info to back up my claim.

In the jailbreaking department, this website: http://www.idownloadblog.com/tag/jailbreak-apps-tweaks/

It goes to show you how people who work on UI actually know what they're doing. Jony Ive, an undisputed genius in industrial design, is completely clueless about software design (he needs to be demoted to just hardware so that he can focus on what he does best and let an actual expert in UI design take over). It's like when basketball legend Michael Jordan tried playing professional baseball, just because you're good at one thing doesn't mean it will translate well into other areas.
Your initial point was that Apple no longer hires jailbreakers. You utterly failed to back it up. For good reason- it was pure nonsense to begin with.
 
Well, I believe most good companies have a single leader running the ship, steering it into definite direction. I think Apple will in the end run on autopilot for a while, then be slashed up and sold piece by piece.

From the last years scheme of innovations, we see mostly corporate moves rather than farming new behaviours for end users. Yes, Apple converted from 3D to flat, which mimicked the world of Googles Android. Instead of slowly peeling of the skin from yesterday, they took a u-turn, leaving the Apple brand and trademark bleeding. The problem is that the new look is tasteless, but effective. It no longer turns head, it gets things done. The specifications are greater than ever. Surfing the web, except for the crashes, is smoother than ever because of the new processor in Apples mobile portfolio.

One thing is still missing, and that is identity. Jony Ive seem to have a signature, but certainly lack the impression that used to glow from the very first touch. I don't expect anything from my Apple products anymore, other than faster specifications, because I no longer believe they have the power to astound their audience anymore through software aesthetics.
 
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Your initial point was that Apple no longer hires jailbreakers. You utterly failed to back it up. For good reason- it was pure nonsense to begin with.

I said it *feels like*, since iOS 7 that Apple stopped hiring developers from the Jailbreak community, I did not want to sound like I was jumping to any conclusions. But to be honest, iOS 7 did incorporate many Jailbreak elements (mostly in the features department).

Also, as I was saying before, there needs to be a third voice in the software department, it would definitely play into the whole collaboration concept that Tim Cook always talks about and it bring in a better flow of ideas to the platform. Jony and Craig seem to work very well together, but I feel like there needs to be someone of Forstall's experience (not personality) to be apart of the group effort.
 
Honestly, the "Add to Contacts" text seems more in line with iOS 7's guidelines on "clarity". I know we all didn't like the amount of text-links instead of buttons, but now that we've all gotten used to it, going back to a simple "+" feels... not as good.

Seriously. How could that button be seen as clearer than the previous version? Not a big deal, but a clear step backwards.
 
The new power icon is still as hilariously out of place as ever. I wonder if this ends up being taken out in 7.1 final or they double down with the in your face visual shorthand they are supposedly against, we've never needed a combination lock icon next to slide to unlock so why do we need a power icon all of the sudden?
 
I said it *feels like*, since iOS 7 that Apple stopped hiring developers from the Jailbreak community, I did not want to sound like I was jumping to any conclusions. But to be honest, iOS 7 did incorporate many Jailbreak elements (mostly in the features department).
So because Apple listened to the jailbreak community more in iOS 7 than they ever have before, incorporating many more jailbreak features, it feels like Apple must have stopped hiring jailbreakers. Gotta love your logic.
 
I'm pretty sure that Contacts in Dialer thing was there in beta 3 too, can somebody who didn't update confirm?

Distinctly remember adding a contact using the circled + in beta 3 last week.

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:rolleyes: Right.. because all skeuomorphic designs are that ugly.

How about the original iBooks app? It looks a lot better than the crap they replaced it with in iOS 7.

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Except that's not what iBooks looks like. Not even close, really.

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Well, I believe most good companies have a single leader running the ship, steering it into definite direction. I think Apple will in the end run on autopilot for a while, then be slashed up and sold piece by piece.

From the last years scheme of innovations, we see mostly corporate moves rather than farming new behaviours for end users. Yes, Apple converted from 3D to flat, which mimicked the world of Googles Android. Instead of slowly peeling of the skin from yesterday, they took a u-turn, leaving the Apple brand and trademark bleeding. The problem is that the new look is tasteless, but effective. It no longer turns head, it gets things done. The specifications are greater than ever. Surfing the web, except for the crashes, is smoother than ever because of the new processor in Apples mobile portfolio.

One thing is still missing, and that is identity. Jony Ive seem to have a signature, but certainly lack the impression that used to glow from the very first touch. I don't expect anything from my Apple products anymore, other than faster specifications, because I no longer believe they have the power to astound their audience anymore through software aesthetics.

Jony Ive's signature is minimalism.
 
Did they revert any of the changes they made in beta 3?

Like the new slide to shutdown UI? Or the awful looking new call screen?

Most of the UI changes in 7.1 beta 3 were strange. (except for the green icon hue change and white point reduce, those were nice)

No, but the "slide to ____" text within the sliders is now darker, so it looks way better than it did in beta 3. The rounded sliders are still present, though.
 
I believe this is Scott Forstall's work.

To be honest with you, I miss Scott Forstall and his design. There was nothing wrong with iOS 6. :mad:

There was nothing wrong with my old Performa running MacOS 7.6 at the time either, but I wouldn't willingly go back to that machine. Progress is tough, but usually worth it.
 
"There was nothing wrong with my old Performa running MacOS 7.6..."

Hey I loved my Performa, hooked up to my LaserWriter Select printer - those WERE the days!
 
Is anyone else really bothered by the "Giant open sore" link that pops up at the end of the video? *vomit*

Hmmm... I don't get that. I get CleanMyMac, a kitty video, and a video about Yu Darvish. Maybe because the Internet knows I am a Mac-owning, cat-loving baseball fan. Wonder why it pops-up for you with "Giant open sore."
 
All I really still want is and option to permanently dismiss the pop up that suggests enabling wi-fi to improve location services every time I open an app that uses it. As far as I can remember, up until ios7 that would maybe pop up once when first using location in an app. Now its EVERY time I launch an app on cellular. I do NOT ever want to turn on WiFi unless I intend to use it for data. Having a wifi on pining APs is a total waste of battery. I can understand it for things like maps when you need more accuracy for stuff like turn by turn but for anything else why does accuracy matter THAT much beyond getting a general location.
 
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