iOS 7 Beta 3 Reportedly Coming on Monday, July 8

[iHack13]

So far I have more issues with beta 2 than beta 1:

• clock / time and date on lockscreen is at center sometimes and jumps to its normal position
• camera crashes so often that you could say its an android custom rom with no camera support (xda devs know what I mean )
• touchscreen stops working all of a sudden !!! you need to power off with home and powerbutton then plug a charging cable in . thats the only way that works for me to get a working touchscreen again.
• safari behaves like the camera app too from time to time. instant crash when launching it. reboot is the only way to fix
• I'm not sure if this one was on beta 1 or 2 . but backlight would turn off completely sometimes . adjusting the backlight was without function afterwards. turn screen off and on was the only way to fix

thats it for me so far.
using an iphone 4s

 

[jlnr]

The icons we saw in WWDC, will the icons for iOS7, no change until iOS8. That is the saddest thing.

Leather iCal was not undone for two releases (10.7 and 10.8), and Apple needed the context of the whole Forstall drama to backtrack without looking like idiots.

This was on the same WWDC on which they have proudly showed off the new iOS 7 icons, including the grid and the morphing animation. The new iOS 7 for business page uses the same icon style too. I don't see how they could credibly backtrack as early as iOS 8.

 

[Ries]

In case you didn't notice, it says "Photos" and "Game Center" under those icons, so unless people can't read, people will know what they are for.

Whats the point having the icons then? why not just make them square with number 1-20 on them? They can just read 8, thats photos...

Its like having a road sign with a sun picture saying icy road ahead...

 

[mrbrown]

They just need to make sure all of these visual enhancements don't "slow down" the operation of the various iOS devices. Yes, I know it's beta, but all of the visual transitions on iOS 7 on the iPad is just plain slow.

We're not Android, people!

 

[Mr. Gates]

Also, I would like it if the podcast App remembered where I left off on a podcast when I come back to it.

It used to do this when it was part of the music App.

But now that it has its own app it always starts you back at the beginning

 

[nikicampos]

Whats the point having the icons then? why not just make them square with number 1-20 on them? They can just read 8, thats photos...

Its like having a road sign with a sun picture saying icy road ahead...

Oh yes, because road signs have to do with iPhone.

Really bad example kid.

 

[PBG4 Dude]

It's not that I don't like them, it's that I want them to be even a bit more uniform. At the very least have the gradients be the same direction.

But I also realize that the slight differences between them allow app developers to add their own touch to icons yet have them blend nicely with the OS.

Yes! Why does safari have a blue to white gradient yet Mail has a white to blue gradient? Looks like they flipped the same gradient upside down and used it twice.

 

[berniemakaveli]

Good. Beta 2 has been buggier than Beta 1 on my iPhone 4.

 

[ArtOfWarfare]

Please fix the horrid icons

Just curious, have you been using iOS 7? I agreed that they looked horrid at first, but most of the designs have grown on me (although some still look horrid... namely the voice memos one.)

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Whats the point having the icons then? why not just make them square with number 1-20 on them? They can just read 8, thats photos...

Its like having a road sign with a sun picture saying icy road ahead...

Though you're correct that the person posting before you has retarded logic, the icons for game center and photos are actually pretty good. Game Center's bubbles convey fun, and continue a theme that's in the full app, while Photos... IDK, photos looks more like an ink blot test to me. Personally, I see rainbow flower petals... plus that icon is used within the app to represent filters.

 

[Casiotone]

Whats the point having the icons then? why not just make them square with number 1-20 on them? They can just read 8, thats photos...

Its like having a road sign with a sun picture saying icy road ahead...

Once people know what the icon is for the Photos app (by reading the text under it once) they don't need to read the text anymore and can use the bigger visual cue from the icon to quickly spot the app on the home screen.

 

[charlituna]

Three things I'd like to see in Beta 3:

- dots back on monthly calendar view

- the titles of movies showing in the video app ala iOS 6

I would say to add to that: return of the choose your quality when downloading movies/TV shows and separate choices for 720 and 1080

And make extras freaking work on devices (at least the Apple TV and iPad)

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Prepare for a torrent of abuse by those who think the icons are JUST PERFECT.

I wouldn't say they are perfect but they aren't totally horrid.

There are 6 that I would rather see somethng else
Compass and stocks -- black is too dark and content too busy. If it was simpler and bolder perhaps the black wouldn't be so bed
Safari -- I don't see why they couldn't do the blue background like the old one
Game Center -- the circles don't suggest social connections to me which is what Game Center basically is. Something like the face to face icon from inside the app makes more sense to me
Newsstand -- too busy. I think they could have used two icons and gotten the same point across
Settings -- looks like a drain cover. A simple cog I think would have been fine.

 

[skinnylegs]

For the love of all things decent; bring list view back to Calendar.

 

[gstevie]

I find my battery life on my iPhone 5 with beta 2 to be horrendous, best I get is just over half a day, was getting almost a day and a half with 6.1.3. Thats with all of the location services options turned off. Not impressed at all.

Today I left my fully charged phone with the music app running paused in the background and from 8:50 to 13:40 I had the phone untouched whilst I was working and came back to it and it was at 46%.

 

[jlnr]

In case you didn't notice, it says "Photos" and "Game Center" under those icons, so unless people can't read, people will know what they are for.

The irony is that these labels have gotten harder to read - unless you use a pure black background and a Retina device.

 

[DUCKofD3ATH]

I'd like to know what people mean by "amateurish" and "unprofessional"? Is it due to the fact the icons are flat and simple with little detail?

No. The problem is that the icons are inconsistent and thus look crude in comparison with each other. (By the way, the look Apple has achieved isn't "flat", the use of gradients prevents that.)

For example, since the first IOS, Apple icons have followed the convention of using color gradients that shift from lighter at top to darker at bottom. This makes the icon look like it's being lit from above and also imparts a feeling of depth.

On IOS 7, the gradients have no such consistency. The App store, iTunes Store, Camera, Phone, Videos, and Messages icons follow the previous rule, but the Mail and Weather icons flip the gradient around so it looks like it's being lit from below. Meanwhile the Calendar, Notes, Reminders, Clock, Stocks, Compass, Maps and Safari use no gradient or one so subtle as to not matter. It's chaotic and violates the main reason for icons: that their design be intuitive.

Then there are those ludicrous graphics. What is the Photos icon supposed to represent? Or the Game Center? Why are those icons abstract while the Newsstand and Passport icons carry literalism to the point of illegibility?

Why are the Notes and Reminders so boring? And why do Compass and Safari both have compasses for icons?

 

[lcmazza]

Really? Never had those models but my S3 was waaaay more stable and less buggy than either of the ios 7 betas but that was to be expected. I've had things crash on both ios and Android maybe a little less often on ios but on either platform I would just restart and the problem goes away so I consider that a moot point.

I didn't notice much lag on my S3 but I'm thinking a pure Android device would probably be less laggy.

I'll throw in having an sd card slot is nice to have as well but not all Android devices have this. Nor do they all have removeable batteries.

Actually I played a lot with Android, but now I'm tired, as I was with the iPhone until the 4S (I had all previous models).

At the moment I think that the iPhone is more robust and works better than Samsung's phones, mainly because there's no real pure Android for the Note 2... CM10.1 is as always very buggy and I got a little tired of updates taking forever to come, be it from Google or Samsung. Also, the update process is a complete mess, with bugs that are never fixed. I think an Android tablet is better than an iPad, but for a phone, I rather stay with the iPhone at the moment.

 

[Nightarchaon]

Im impressed by Beta 2 (using it as my Driver phone) only niggly things i have come across that i hope they fix are..

If you play music, the lock screen player replaced the time... very annoying, id rather have the time in place all the time and the player to appear under it.

snooze button on alarms doesn't seem to work, it just cancels the alarm.. found out the hard way on that one

id like the calendar app to display if a day has something in it in year and month view, rather than having to drill down to the day view before anything shows.. sometimes i need to look at a glance if im busy or free on a day a month or two down the line, and having to scroll through each week is an irritant

other than that, the style is growing on me, ill admit i want the old camera icon and settings icon back, the new ones are ugly as sin, but ill get used to them

 

[WilliamG]

"Please fix the icons" is the new "Safari is snappier" in every iOS 7 beta article around here.

If Apple would put in the release notes for every BETA/update that "Safari is now snappier," it would have solved the initial problem...

 

[CD3660]

For the love of all things decent; bring list view back to Calendar.

Definitely miss that (even though you can still get it by clicking the search button).

 

[terraphantm]

No, betas don't change visually, they are more to fix bugs and performance, if any we will see just a small change in one or two icons, but iOS 7 icons are mainly final, if any change is made, it will still be flat and within this colors and design.

They do occasionally change visually. One change that comes to memory is the folder background in iOS 4.

Some animations have changed during the beta process as well.

 

[724699]

Sorry but the iOS7 icons are pure garbage.

Compare the amount of time needed to create the existing iOS6 icons versus the new iOS7 icons for comparison; there's your answer staring at you right in front of your face.

The overly simplistic nature, combined with lazy design is just bad. I don't mind a flattened look as long as the icons are still beautiful -- which they aren't at all. Take the inside portion of the Safari icon, and apply that to the new flat style and you have small details that take time and skill to produced mixed with a less glossy and "3D" design to the icons. Best of both worlds.

The icons suck and the colour scheme looks like it flew out of either someone's rear-end (woo rainbow!) or off the desk of a 13 year old girl.

 

[twoodcc]

sounds good. the better developers are kept up to date, the better their apps will be day one of iOS 7 release

 

[blogcraft]

hope they finally fix the iOS alarm bug... https://discussions.apple.com/message/13228973#13228973 happens in all my iOS devises

 

[delawn]

Undo that feature they copied from Android

They need to undo that feature they copied directly from Android... lag.

 

[bandrews]

No. The problem is that the icons are inconsistent and thus look crude in comparison with each other. (By the way, the look Apple has achieved isn't "flat", the use of gradients prevents that.)

For example, since the first IOS, Apple icons have followed the convention of using color gradients that shift from lighter at top to darker at bottom. This makes the icon look like it's being lit from above and also imparts a feeling of depth.

On IOS 7, the gradients have no such consistency. The App store, iTunes Store, Camera, Phone, Videos, and Messages icons follow the previous rule, but the Mail and Weather icons flip the gradient around so it looks like it's being lit from below. Meanwhile the Calendar, Notes, Reminders, Clock, Stocks, Compass, Maps and Safari use no gradient or one so subtle as to not matter. It's chaotic and violates the main reason for icons: that their design be intuitive.

Then there are those ludicrous graphics. What is the Photos icon supposed to represent? Or the Game Center? Why are those icons abstract while the Newsstand and Passport icons carry literalism to the point of illegibility?

Why are the Notes and Reminders so boring? And why do Compass and Safari both have compasses for icons?

The older iOS icons don't all have gradients. Agreed, many have that strange arc of light across the top half but without that, the gradients are just as inconsistent (eg music app - without the arc of light at the top, the gradient is lightest in the bottom right corner, videos bottom left, messages bottom). As for third party apps, I have, among others YouTube, Pocket, Paper, Over and Shuffler.fm. These, to my eye show no gradient so unless you have a home page full of Apple apps, the direction in which the gradient runs is irrelevant.

Same goes for the general design - music is a simple double quaver on an orange background, messages a single speech bubble on a green background. Then you have photos - a highly detailed picture of a sunflower that looks like something Samsung would put in Touch Wiz (why should that mean "photos" any more than a colour wheel?) and Photo Booth - a highly detailed image of a photo booth.
The notes and reminders icons are no more or less boring than before - I just think they look cleaner and smarter.

And Safari has alway been a compass. I don't know why and I don't necessarily agree with it but that's just how it is and has been for all time. And a compass is, well, a compass so I guess it has to look like a compass.