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As the other guy said, you need to make sure Apple ID email addresses are exactly the same on all devices. For example, if your main Apple ID email address is @gmail.com but you also have an @icloud.com address through Apple, just make sure all devices are signed in to iCloud with the same address.

I have separate accounts for the iTunes store side and another iCloud account with no payment method attached and is running iCloud on all my devices. This is the account I use for FaceTime, iMessage, mail, contacts, etc...As far as all those services go, they are using the same email address. Surely someone has to have a similar configuration to this one.
 
Okay, backed up, switched it on and did some quick testing.

If you are on WiFi, pictures taken on a device get synced up to iCloud nearly instantly and pushed down to linked devices just as quickly.

If you are on 3G/LTE, photos are stored locally with a nice message at the bottom of the list that says:

Wi-If Required - # Photos to Upload

so thankfully Apple assumes you don't want to eat through all your phone data just to sync to iCloud.

I'm glad apple assumes we don't want to eat through all our data but I wish they would give us the option to. I spend more time away from wifi than on so it would be much easier for me if I could do this. Plus I'm on an unlimited plan
 
8.1 is very disappointing.

They have not fixed the bug in Safari on the iPad, when in landscape mode, bookmarks drop-down does not close after you have selected your bookmark.
 
I recommend you do not activate this. It will use a lot of Data Syncing your pictures between your iOS Devices and the Cloud. Unless you have very few photos. Also, to answer you question, your photo's will be local on your iOS Device so when looking at your pictures they will not need to be downloaded every time.

No it won't. It only works on wifi so the other user won't even have to be worried about it until he has access to a wifi connection somewhere.
 
I wonder if I should hold off turning on iCloud Photo Library since Photos for the Mac isn't out yet? Kind of like holding off on iCloud Drive before the Mac version arrived.
 
Can anyone tell me how big the file sizes are for the "optimized" photos? Thanks.

Wondering how much space this really will save if everything in the cloud is also on the device by extension (vs onedrive or Google plus photos where you can upload, delete from phone, yet still have a copy in the cloud- a better solution for my needs).
 
You obviously don't have a lot of devices. Here's an example. I often snap photos of something like a page from a book as a simple note of something.

The other night, I backed up my wife's iPhone photos to iPhoto on my Mac, so it added around 1,000 photos all at once.

With the camera roll, I could quickly go to those photos I took as notes, completely separate from all the other photos from other devices. With the new Recently Added, all of those 1,000 photos were showing up last, and it took me forever to find those simple photos.

Still think it's the same?

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This service in general seems like such a terrible mess. I can't believe it doesn't even do what Photo Stream has been doing.

And 5 GB is ridiculous when Flickr is offering 1 TB for free right now. Apple doesn't have to go that far, but 5 GB? Come on! :rolleyes:

I never said it's the same, I said they serve the same purpose. Camera roll would be photos you had taken with the camera (or screenshots, saved photos, etc). With Recently Added, it's still camera shots, screenshots, saved photos but currently from any of your iOS devices since it's a single unified photo library now.

What exactly happened, you imported your wife's iPhone photos on your Mac (around 1000), and they mixed with the photos of notes you took on your phone? How exactly did they get from your Mac to your recently added on iPhone?

And I do have a lot of devices, and take a lot of photos. Recently to test out the import feature (using iPad), I grabbed an event I had from 2008, about 200 photos, threw them on an SD card and imported them to iCloud photo library on the iPad. They then showed up as the most recent "Recently Added" on all my devices. But when going to the Moments/Collections/Years view they in Chronological order as expected.

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I'm not sure what you mean by this. Where is "iCloud Photo Library" and how do I access it?

I went to iCloud.com and went into "iCloud Photos". There, it shows all my photos and when you click on one there is a "download" button in the upper right corner.

That is where I'm downloading the file. I was assuming that was where the originals were stored "in the cloud".

If you're downloading from iCloud.com and they're not full resolution then they're simply web optimized ones.

If you want to access full resolution / original copies you'll have to on an iOS device or next year on Mac Photos app.
 
Can anyone tell me how big the file sizes are for the "optimized" photos? Thanks.

Wondering how much space this really will save if everything in the cloud is also on the device by extension (vs onedrive or Google plus photos where you can upload, delete from phone, yet still have a copy in the cloud- a better solution for my needs).

Me too! :)
 
Exactly my thoughts. It seems like the total opposite! Now you need a 64GB+ iPhone besides your 64GB+ iPad to be able to use iCloud Photo Library and upload ALL your photos.

There should be an option to not download photos locally, just upload new ones. And be able to see your photos in iCloud when your are connected to Internet.

Sometimes I hate apple.

Thank you! :)

Glad to see i am not the only one who things that this is just stupid!
Well, i would have been willing to hand out even more money to apple and buying more cloud storage - but this is a deal breaker for me!

I better stick with Dropbox then,....
 
clear as mud

iPhoto on my Mac serves 3 purposes. Store all my old family photos. Store new photos I take with my iPhone. Store stuff I find online.

My impression with iCloud photos was that I would be able to access every photo I have in iPhoto on my phone or iPad anywhere, and at any time. From what I'm reading here, I have to wait until Apple has a new photo program for the Mac, which I assume (uh-oh) to which all my iPhoto content will migrate??

So right now, iCloud photos is really only concerning itself with what is stored on your phone or tablet? If so, those are accessed how? Is there some new app for iOS that is not yet available?

I'm unclear why Apple chose to piece-meal this whole system together. I understand I can wait until it is out of beta, but why make beta available to everyone, when a large majority of users don't have the patience or know-how to fool around with a beta product?

And why all the non-information about this from Apple? Their claim-to-fame is "it just works," which clearly this doesn't. And how can I trust their cloud when they do get it all figured out, when they are so secretive about the treatment of my irreplaceable family photos?

At this point, I think I will back up my iPhoto library to Flickr, Google+ photos, and an external drive. Perhaps taking photos thru another application other than the Apple app is the best course.

Apple is confusing the hell out of the average person who just wants to take a picture and save it, which is a large part of having the damned iPhone in the first place.
 
8.1 is very disappointing.

They have not fixed the bug in Safari on the iPad, when in landscape mode, bookmarks drop-down does not close after you have selected your bookmark.

That doesn't appear to be a bug to me. That looks like they built-in a bookmarks side-bar feature that you toggle on and off. Maybe having an option to have it automatically go away again after selecting a bookmark would be nice, but if I want to open several bookmarks, having the bar persistent is nice.
 
I might be able to help!

Astro! I signed up just to help you! If you can get access to a mac with Yosemite, you can get access to iCloud Drive. They will have to create an account for you to add your iCloud info and not mess with their account. On iCloud Drive there is a folder where your documents might be. I remember when I upgraded my iWork iOS apps that there was a dialog mentioning that old documents were not compatible or need to be updated. Look at my screenshot.

I hope this helps. Please respond if you are able to get it or need more help.

Gabriel

Edit: It turns out that the folder is on iCloud.com as well. So you can use any internet-connected computer. Added screenshot as well. :)




I do not own anything other than an iPad and an iPhone, the documents that were stored on both devices disappeared. The documents were there during previous iOS updates, but moving to ios 8 erased them all. In fact, simply updating the iphone causes all the issues. I hadn't even gotten around to updating the iPad before I realized all my documents were gone.
 

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To upload photos to the iCloud.com photo section apple has this in their iCloud help documentation:


Add new photos or videos
Log in to iCloud.com, then click Photos.

Click Upload and select the photos or videos you want to add.

Click Choose to upload them to your library.


i do not see an upload button?????????? Did they forget to put it there ;)
 
Thank you! :)

Glad to see i am not the only one who things that this is just stupid!
Well, i would have been willing to hand out even more money to apple and buying more cloud storage - but this is a deal breaker for me!

I better stick with Dropbox then,....

What exactly is stupid about it?
 
Rather than hating Apple maybe you should educate yourself. When you use iCloud Photos there is no space taken up on your device for photos whatsoever. Rather, spare space is used to cache photos as available, be it as full resolution or device optimized. As you fill up your device with other content less and less photos are cached, but that makes no difference as long as you have a fast connection when you open your library ALL photos will still be there via web download. This is the same was iTunes Match works.

To say this again, any device can access ALL your photos regardless of local storage limitations.

Let me put this in other way. I, like most people, take photos with an iPhone. So my original photos are from the start in my iPhone. Ones they are uploaded to iCloud, there is no option to erase the local "original" photos without also deleting them from iCloud. So at the end, all the photos I take are still using a lot of space in my iPhone.

In this sense, Dropbox or Google+ automatic camera backup are still better options, as I can delete my local files ones they have been uploaded and still see all of them in any device when I have Internet connection.
 
Tired joke.

Celebs with Android phones, BlackBerries were victims too. iCloud wasn't hacked, it was social engineering.

Don't bother, they don't know the difference but love to state this crap. Same with bendgate. This is the future of macrumors. ;)
 
That doesn't appear to be a bug to me. That looks like they built-in a bookmarks side-bar feature that you toggle on and off. Maybe having an option to have it automatically go away again after selecting a bookmark would be nice, but if I want to open several bookmarks, having the bar persistent is nice.

No, my friend. It does not do this in landscape mode. That would be a stupid non-Apple way of having different behaviour depending on orientation.

IAC, the bookmarks sidebar has been there for a long time, and this is a bad change in usability.
 
Rather than hating Apple maybe you should educate yourself. When you use iCloud Photos there is no space taken up on your device for photos whatsoever. Rather, spare space is used to cache photos as available, be it as full resolution or device optimized. As you fill up your device with other content less and less photos are cached, but that makes no difference as long as you have a fast connection when you open your library ALL photos will still be there via web download. This is the same was iTunes Match works.

To say this again, any device can access ALL your photos regardless of local storage limitations.

Seems like a solution in search of a problem. I think iCloud library is a way for Apple to make more $$$, since for most people the free 5GB limit would be used up. Don't photos in your icloud photo library count against your 5GB of backup space in iCloud?

If my iPhone gets too many photos I either delete or make sure they are on my PC.
 
Thanks apple removed my photos and I can not get them back on my iOS devices. No folders in my icloud drive on my Imac. No more apple devices for me. They no longer just work.
 
Does deleting a photo in the iCloud Photo Library/Photostream delete it from your phone as well? I prefer that it didn't--like before. Some things, I would like to keep on my phone but not in the iCloud.
Anyone have an answer? Much thanks!
 
iCloud Backup

Quick question: Do I need to keep my "camera roll backup" active on my phone's iCloud Backup if I enable iCloud Photo Library?

thx!
 
I have separate accounts for the iTunes store side and another iCloud account with no payment method attached and is running iCloud on all my devices. This is the account I use for FaceTime, iMessage, mail, contacts, etc...As far as all those services go, they are using the same email address. Surely someone has to have a similar configuration to this one.

Right but check the iCloud settings on your iOS devices and your Mac. Look at the Apple ID/email address listed there. I noticed a bug when setting up Yosemite where even though I set up iCloud after install with my @icloud.com account it still was signed in with my @gmail.com primary Apple ID. After I logged out of iCloud on my devices and relogged in using my Apple ID alias ending with @icloud.com, all of the handoff stuff worked like a charm.

The issue seems to be when signing into iCloud during Yosemite setup up process, it doesn't discriminate between your @icloud.com address and your iTunes Store account. Just confirm all email addresses match in icloud settings on all devices.
 
Let me put this in other way. I, like most people, take photos with an iPhone. So my original photos are from the start in my iPhone. Ones they are uploaded to iCloud, there is no option to erase the local "original" photos without also deleting them from iCloud. So at the end, all the photos I take are still using a lot of space in my iPhone.

In this sense, Dropbox or Google+ automatic camera backup are still better options, as I can delete my local files ones they have been uploaded and still see all of them in any device when I have Internet connection.

The "option" is to select the optimized feature. That is only a thumbnail and does not use the space you are referring to.. So you see a thumbnail of pic 1 and click it and it downloads and you view it. There is no need to erase it as far as space goes. Yes maybe there could be a reason to delete a particular pic JUST from the phone but the space issue you are referring to is being addressed with the optimize feature.

And I somewhat agree OneDrive, flicker etc may be valid options but they are not quite as seamless. However with 15gb and 1TB free space verses Apples 5gb......well. But the average Apple user will just want to snap a pic and it all "just works" without other apps or services involved. The optimized option will help in that regard with the space issue.
 
Let me put this in other way. I, like most people, take photos with an iPhone. So my original photos are from the start in my iPhone. Ones they are uploaded to iCloud, there is no option to erase the local "original" photos without also deleting them from iCloud. So at the end, all the photos I take are still using a lot of space in my iPhone.

In this sense, Dropbox or Google+ automatic camera backup are still better options, as I can delete my local files ones they have been uploaded and still see all of them in any device when I have Internet connection.
That simply isn't the case. Older photos will be removed from your phone to free up space as required. I'm not sure why you are clinging to ignorance rather than listening to how it actually works.

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Seems like a solution in search of a problem. I think iCloud library is a way for Apple to make more $$$, since for most people the free 5GB limit would be used up. Don't photos in your icloud photo library count against your 5GB of backup space in iCloud?

If my iPhone gets too many photos I either delete or make sure they are on my PC.
You are welcome to not use this new service and do it your way. Yes, this will cost money. However, the benefit of being able to access ALL photos from ALL devices regardless of local capacity is huge, as is the benefit of not needing any local storage devoted to photos (think 8GB devices), as is the benefit of change syncing.
 
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