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iOS 8 Adoption Rate Hits 72% As Android Lollipop Distribution Reaches 1.6%
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You're missing the point. Google supports their older software. There is no need to upgrade. Totally different software update strategy that is more akin to Microsoft's Windows rather than the upgrade or you're dumped attitude Apple have with their devices.
Those "old hardware" are in fact, new underpowered hardware sold in 2015; so not sure what you're saying
Apple supports hardware it is currently releasing. It fully supports them for 3 years. They even fix major security holes past 3 years.
Google has not patched all security holes and bugs in many of those older (not old at all) versions, you got new underpowered devices still getting buggy, unsecured versions of Android.
Kitkat is buggy, yet they still went on to Lollipop instead of insuring it was OK for those stuck on it. So, how is that even support?
No you're missing the point. We're talking about the OS. The OS is not just a conglomeration of app updates rolled into an upgrade package. Theres literally tons of security and performance enhancements in each Android iteration.
Updating your gmail app to match the same one lollipop users have doesn't mean your seeing the same benefits as a lollipop user has if you're still on jellybean.
iOS 6 was still buggy for me when iOS 7 came out. So what? At least KitKat is going to continue to see more patches unlike iOS 6.
Google still patch their older OSs.
Didn't realize this, was thinking about the webview thing. This makes it more acceptable definitely.
Well, iOS 6 was not buggy for me. LOL, this is the typical response from Android fans who come to this site. When all argument seems lost, resort to saying that iOS is buggy on their imaginary Apple devises. Like that is supposed to end the argument.
You do realise you're talking to a person who doesn't actually like Android that much, right? My experience with iOS 6 is anecdotal, I'm sure many used it with little issues.
I've had more iOS devices than Android ones, that is for sure. I can't stand it when people attempt to bring up 'fanboyism' as some sort of justification for their own views. I speak only from experience with said software, something not many posters here are doing. Weak. 0/10.
Yeah, yeah...all these angelic posters who actually prefer the iPhone, but who are traumatized by the horrible iOS. Or all those saintly members who love iOS, but have had to endure the terrible hardware that Apple releases.
Its funny how those who are always on this site criticizing everything decision Apple makes are people who don't like Android that much (oh, and they've owned every iPhone model that was ever released).
Just what exactly do you do with the information that Android has X percentage of adoption rate vs. iOS?
Even if you were to switch to Android, it wouldn't matter to you, as you would switch for whatever reason.
To me this is non news and like so many things being reported just filler material for our already overloaded brains
I do get the point that total Apple fans act like sports fans and think THEIR team (iOS) is superior to the competition when reading this blurb.
But, as for practical use , I don't see it.
You're simply trying to find any way you can to sway the numbers the way you want to perceive them.
Ios is an operating system. Android is an operating system. Installed base of Android is larger. simple.
The original article is talking about operating systems. Not individual phone manufacturers.
But, since you want to try and turn the numbers in your favor by limiting the discussion to individual manufacturers, and you say that Apple blows Samsung out of the water... Here's a current article showing that Apple has finally gotten near Samsung sales volumes, but still trailed behind Samsung by at least 600,000 units.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150129005968/en/Tie-Apple-Closes-Gap-Samsung-Fourth-Quarter#.VNT85obprv4
So much for Apple blowing every manufacturer out of the water.
Now, that we've established that Apple isn't even the largest volume manufacturer, we can easily show that ios is clearly not the highest selling operating system either.
And, since they're still playing catch-up to other manufacturers, iOS clearly has a lot of ground to cover before it can even think about displacing the massive installed base of Android.
So there you go, your argument defeated on both sides. Go back to the drawing board and create another list of qualifiers to twist the numbers how you want to see them.
I'll even help you out... iOS and Apple are both the largest installed base and top selling manufacturers of phones using the Apple Ax series of processors.
There... Hope you feel better now. Gives you some warm thoughts to cuddle up with.
...and Apple announced record profits and sales for Q4 2014 while Samsungs sales and profits continue to plummet LOL. You are REALLY going to try and argue Samsung is outperforming Apple? Apple made over $51 BILLION off the iPhone in Q4 alone. Samsung didn't even make 1/4 that off their Galaxy line LOL. You have no clue...
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/01/28/samsung-reports-q115-profit-loss/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2015/02/04/apple-iphone-sales-android-united-states/
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Do you feel better after writing all of that? Calm down.
Apple is not playing catch-up to other manufacturers...that is where you are wrong. Apple is just trying to make as much profit as possible by selling their devices. Apparently they are doing something right since people are buying their products (and allowing them to earn record profits).
Other manufacturers have created a massive install base by selling cheap phones, yet they are not making as much money as Apple. That massive install base might make an Android fan happy, but the manufacturers making Android devices are probably not as excited as you seem to be (specially Samsung).
It boggles the mind that anyone can suggest that a company that is the most valuable company in the world is playing catch up. Only on macrumors...lol
In fact you can compare Apple to Samsung, and you can also compare Apple to Android, i.e. iOS to Android. But yes, they blow Android out of the water if you measure like with like.
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Based on my comment, yes.
Originally Posted by tdale View Post
I prefer function over a fluid OS that is featureless and restricted
IIRC the posts related to the past, iOS8, Yosemite, 4.7 and 5.5 screens have changed all that. I now have function, although I do admit that my 6 Plus, while usually smooth as silk, is not always, I'm ok with that.
SJ's iOS was featureless and restricted, TC's isn't.
Just because I use said device, doesn't mean I can't criticize it. In fact, in my mind at least, you should only criticize it if you have tried it out. This polarizing Android vs iOS, Google vs Apple attitude you appear to have is nonsensical. Things in the real world are not black and white. There are many shades of grey.
Either way, what is your point here exactly? Are you refuting the points in my previous posts or just refuting me as a poster?
We don't feel better, we felt fine to start with, as we look at the raw numbers and reverse extrapolate them to reveal the state of the smartphone business.
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I agree. I enjoy an Apple-Android discussion, or Apple-Samsung, as while I use Apple, I can see the great, good, average and poor things from Apple and from the Samsung or Android. THEN, a discussion can occur. If any poster is so in love with his/her platform or device, or is so in hate with the other, it just crumbles. It does however, offer me a smiley face when I read some posts
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I agree. The key fact is Apple sold 74 million phones. Samsung sold 600,000 more. So, that appears to be sufficient detail to show that Apple is playing catchup. Yep, that says it all!
Roadblock, been using 6.1.6 for 2 years on 3GS (that's a hell of a lot of use), a phone supposedly that makes it slow, as my main phone. So, I have to call you out on your blatant lies.
I've used Kitkat (mostly on several Raspbery Pi devices) and its more buggy than that even now.
An Please tell me who is getting those updates, when almost no one who buys Kitkat phones right now will be able to put them on their new phones. Remember, 90% of Android phones are low to mid range phones that get no upgrades.
Also, even recent releases of Android (20 months) are not getting fixes to very major security hole. So, how is Google caring at all about previous or in this case, current users? Microsoft cared a lot more for their current users on older versions of their OS.
Being able to load something with Cyanogen doesn't count at all btw.
Haha...boggles the mind, don't it? Apple haters are using some industrial strength blinders nowadays.
Oh so now you want to change your criteria again?
Let's see, original debate, ios vs android installed base. android clearly has a larger installed base. sorry, iOS lost on that one.
Second attempt... Apple sells more phones than any other manufacturer... You specifically said we needed to directly compare sales volume of Apple to sales volume of Samsung. Samsung sells more phones than Apple. Lost again dexter.
3rd try, now you want to argue about who makes greater profits? Amazing how you have to keep changing your criteria and switching arguments.
But again you fail. The very article you cite as evidence, show Samsung having made profits in the trillions. Yet Apple only made profits in the billions.
Regardless of whether Samsung had a decline compared to last year, they are still trillions of dollars ahead of Apple in profits. Sorry dexter, you'll need to rework your criteria again.
All anyone has to do is read the information with an open mind, and it clearly shows that Android is currently the established dominant installed base. Samsung is the current highest volume manufacturer. Apple is definitely challenging the market, but to get an installed base that is larger than Android is going to be a challenge for ios.
You can twist the data anyway you like, but it doesn't change those simple facts.
And you know what? Samsung doesn't really care either way. The more Apple sells, the more they pay Samsung. It's a win win for Samsung. Samsung sells their own phones, and gets money. Apple sells phones and pays Samsung money for producing the parts for Apple. It all works out to put more money in Samsung's bank account.
Fact of the matter, is that without Samsung, Apple would be in a worse position. If Apple could do it without Samsung, they would. They've tried... Yet they always end up back at Samsung for parts and production. So, there you go.
They don't care? Hmm, I wonder why all those Samsung executives got fired then.
And yet Apple is the most valuable company in the world...and Samsung isn't.
And it puts even more money in Apple's bank account. Imagine where Samsung would be without Apple. Let me tell you a secret...if not for Apple, Samsung would be in even worse shape than they are in.
Trillions of 'won', the South Korean currency. In equivalent USD, it's only billions and less than Apple. From the MacRumors piece:
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Both of our experiences are anecdotal and subject to a vast amount of differentials. Just because my user experience with iOS 6 (on an iPhone 4) was poor and yours wasn't, doesn't mean it's not true. User experience differs vastly from user to user and entirely depends on their hardware, how they use their device, the software they have installed and even their location.
Never used Cyanogen in my entire life btw. I rarely bother with the modding of my devices I just want to use them.
Haha...boggles the mind, don't it? Apple haters are using some industrial strength blinders nowadays.
This is an Apple site, so Apple haters are actually Apple interested.
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