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iOS 8 Adoption Rate Hits 72% As Android Lollipop Distribution Reaches 1.6%
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No. That is a totally different reason. That should be (d). And you're right, some phones have no ability to upgrade, just like with the iPhone once Apple deem it too old. At least Google continue to support and update their older software for them with older or less powerful hardware.
Android is a fine OS, but they really need to be embarrassed by less than 2 percent adoption. You have companies delaying Lollipop updates due to ridiculous nonsense, like updating their bloatware cr@p. Samsung's update to their flagship Note 4 phone is delayed so that the third party that makes that dumb VR headset no one uses can fix their problems with it. This kind of stupidity needs to end.
Those kinds of things need to be addressed by Google if Android is going to stay competitive.
Those kinds of things need to be addressed by Google if Android is going to stay competitive.
and i can tell you from a pure technical standpoint that your android device on 2.x is by far absolutely no where near as safe as a iOS device on latest OS (iOS 8/8.1.3)
that is the most ridiculous statement i have ever heard today LOL. goodjob. sir are you sure you are not on something to say something like that?
iOS 8 security blows Android 2.x out the water and is actually even more secure then Lollipop aswell.
android 2.x does not have FDE (full disk encryption, or SELinux, or so much under the hood changes that came to android over the years)
a android 2.x phone can be cracked open like a egg easily security wise and is a joke nowadays the security in 2.x. its been there and done that.
not to mention over 99% of mobile malware/adware targets android, under 1% for Android. Not to mention how malware hits the Play Store and gets downloaded by millions of users where as you basically will never ever find malware on iOS app store (there has been only like 5 pieces of malware to ever sneak past Apple's screening in 7 years of App Store)
millions of android devices are infected with malware right now/payware/adware and people dont even know it, not to mention the app permissions on Android are far worse then it is on Android . Why does a flashlight app on android need access to my call logs, phone calls, texts, photos, videos, and much more and why is it able to report data back to the developer with all of this stuff in it? and why dont i have fine granular control over what a app can do on my device like iOS can and does?
that is the most absurd statement i have ever heard, Android 2.x is by far far no where near as secure as latest iOS. i dare you to challenge me on this as i will dismantle any incorrect false statement you make on this topic/subject. i will dismantle your argument with technicalities and with so much stuff you dont even understand
keep using your 2.x android phone
it is very unsecure platform by today's standards----------
yeah sure billion Android devices shipped this year but 100 million of those device shipments came with forked Android versions with no google services at all in use with them, this is not good at all for Google, this number is going to keep climbing and more and more are going to use their own custom forked version of Android with no Google services
That has been my experience but I know that others have had much more positive experiences. I too would love to be able to downgrade to an older version of iOS. But then my iOS devices would perform well for an even longer period of time... not something that Apple wants to encourage.
Some look at the lack of opportunities to upgrade Android on a particular device as a deficit. In my experience, it is a positive... a significant positive.
My Android devices perform just as well on the last day of their active life as they did on the first day. (the only noticeable difference is a shorter battery life which is true for all devices)
Should I need or want to refresh my system, it'll be refreshed to the version of Android I currently had running. With my iOS devices, a refresh forces me to upgrade to the latest version of iOS supported on that device. THAT is a significant difference.
I prefer iOS over Android, but my investment is better preserved on Android.
if the carriers and MFG's don't release it, most devices will be replaced before they even get 5.0, one issue I have with Android, unless you get a Nexus version phone your at the mercy of others telling you when you can upgrade. I think Kit Kat 4.4 is very stable just that there are too many versions out there and too many devices that do not run the newer versions of Android.
iOS 7 to iOS 8 is like Vista RTM to Vista SP2.
Android 4.4 to Android 5 is like Panther to Tiger.
Android 4.4 to Android 5 is like Panther to Tiger.
The math is fine. The vast majority *are* running KitKat or Jelly Bean. (39.7% + 44.5% = 84.2%)
You just misread the sentence you were replying to. (Likely because of the interrupting clauses.) I can understand the confusion due to the way it is worded, but let me show you the sentence with those clauses removed.
You want to be *really* amused? Pay attention to the user names associated with those two different categories of posts. You'll see *remarkably* little overlap. And you'll see the folks in each of the two groups are posting consistent opinions in across threads.
Some people don't think a watch should have to be charged every night.
Some people don't think charging their watch overnight is a problem, because they're going to take it off anyway.
Surprisingly, there were those same two camps with smartphones. Those who considered a Nokia 61xx-like battery life paramount, and those who didn't have a problem plugging something in while they slept.
Tonight at 11:00! Different people have different opinions!
That's the bottom line. You can't install an update that doesn't exist for your device for reasons X, y z.
And this remains one of the largest reasons for Android as an OS being a joke.
Want the latest OS? Buy a new phone.
By the time most devices finally get Lollipop there will be a new OS coming out. The platform is so sloppy and disorganized and this is why despite its massive marketshare developers still have chosen to make iOS the primary mobile development platform and Android is second tier. A new OS being on less than 10% of the devices after this much time is a joke and Google/Android OEMs should be ashamed of themselves. 9 times out of 10, if you buy an Android then you shouldn't expect anything other than the OS version that it shipped with.
Want the latest OS? Buy a new phone.
By the time most devices finally get Lollipop there will be a new OS coming out. The platform is so sloppy and disorganized and this is why despite its massive marketshare developers still have chosen to make iOS the primary mobile development platform and Android is second tier. A new OS being on less than 10% of the devices after this much time is a joke and Google/Android OEMs should be ashamed of themselves. 9 times out of 10, if you buy an Android then you shouldn't expect anything other than the OS version that it shipped with.
It's not 'old hardware' if it's still for sale in stores as new merchandise.
An iPhone that is in production when iOS version N is released *will* get that update. (Heck, it'll also get upgrades to version N+1 and N+2.)
In contrast, an Android phone that is in production when Android version N is released may still be running version N-2 with no upgrade path in sight. Flagship phones from the Android group will almost always get 1 version upgrade (maybe even 2), but unless you bought one of those flagship models, you're unlikely to see an upgrade *at all*.
Hm. Yeah. I don't think its even possible to argue that my interpretation was valid - it's not an ambiguous statement even if it's confusing.
Your response was in the middle of a bigger thread, to which he was adding his very valid, non-rant observation. Sometimes, it's not all about you.
No No No.
The article, implies Android users don't update much, implies don't care, implies, "whatever", implies not important. As Apple users update much faster that implies positives on all these factors. But thats BS. Do Apple users update cos they want to? No, they see a red notification for an update, "ok I will" the same notification seen on new emails. Its a habit action not an action of will generally
I am an Apple user, don't like Android, BUT the article is bogus, crap, misleading, poor journalism. The fact is many Android users cannot update, but the article, while saying that, still tries to imply negatives on Android users. Id rather read an article on the fire service rescuing a cat from a tree TBH. At least that carries factual reporting, not marketing/PR
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Oh dear. Why is it that I am an Apple fan, yet I am on the side of the Androiders here? because of posts like this.
I don't like Android, but at least I can have a balanced view.
A joke? Many say that about iOS, iToys, iPad, locked down, etc
sloppy and disorganized? Read the threads here on Apple Quality going south, that applies to hardware and OS
Get some balance in your replies, please
and i can tell you from a pure technical standpoint that your android device on 2.x is by far absolutely no where near as safe as a iOS device on latest OS (iOS 8/8.1.3)
that is the most ridiculous statement i have ever heard today LOL. goodjob. sir are you sure you are not on something to say something like that?
iOS 8 security blows Android 2.x out the water and is actually even more secure then Lollipop aswell.
android 2.x does not have FDE (full disk encryption, or SELinux, or so much under the hood changes that came to android over the years)
a android 2.x phone can be cracked open like a egg easily security wise and is a joke nowadays the security in 2.x. its been there and done that.
not to mention over 99% of mobile malware/adware targets android, under 1% for Android. Not to mention how malware hits the Play Store and gets downloaded by millions of users where as you basically will never ever find malware on iOS app store (there has been only like 5 pieces of malware to ever sneak past Apple's screening in 7 years of App Store)
millions of android devices are infected with malware right now/payware/adware and people dont even know it, not to mention the app permissions on Android are far worse then it is on Android . Why does a flashlight app on android need access to my call logs, phone calls, texts, photos, videos, and much more and why is it able to report data back to the developer with all of this stuff in it? and why dont i have fine granular control over what a app can do on my device like iOS can and does?
that is the most absurd statement i have ever heard, Android 2.x is by far far no where near as secure as latest iOS. i dare you to challenge me on this as i will dismantle any incorrect false statement you make on this topic/subject. i will dismantle your argument with technicalities and with so much stuff you dont even understand
keep using your 2.x android phone
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yeah sure billion Android devices shipped this year but 100 million of those device shipments came with forked Android versions with no google services at all in use with them, this is not good at all for Google, this number is going to keep climbing and more and more are going to use their own custom forked version of Android with no Google services
And welcome to the forums Keira #2.
Again, totally unconcerned with "technical" possibilities. More concerned with has been widely known and humiliatingly publicly broadcast on the news exploits that have actually affected tons of real people in very humiliating and publicly damaging ways.
By your argument I can safely click through all those websites that display fake iOS apps on my iPhone or put me in endless loops that you can't get out of without closing safari. Likewise I can safely click my way through the Pop up adds that are in most iOS apps and cause me to be endlessly cycled through screens to purchase things from the App Store with no way out except exiting everything. Amazing how many times I open an iOS app and have some weird screen come up that I can't close, and next thing I know I'm being pushed towards buying something that also won't get off my screen without exiting everything.
Glad to know that there isn't any adware or malware or data mining on iOS. I can safely click through everything that comes up and just send the bills to you.
Now, for a little reality check... There are websites that will detect the device you're on (desktop or mobile) and direct you to sites which seek to gain either your information or your credit card. Frequently these are mischievous randomly displayed banner adds that trigger such events.
Likewise, there are apps and programs on every device and computer platform that are mischievous. And yes, I have encountered many in ios. Often that's how they pay for their free apps, by sending you everywhere and locking you into purchase pages that you can't just tap away from.
Are there bad apps on android? Sure. Are there bad apps or deceptive apps on iOS? Sure.
It comes down to no matter what you use, you'll need to exercise a little intelligence.
And, given the choice, if my carrier re activated the spectrum for my old Android, I'd probably put it back in use as my primary phone.
Maybe from a technical perspective, we could analyze the code and find bugs. But if I have to look for them, then obviously they're not affecting me as much as the bugs that jump out and crash or destabilize iOS apps daily for me.
Likewise I don't remember hearing anything about Android 2.x phones being breached / exploited on the nightly news.
I don't care about technically there. I care about actually affects me.
Right. The majority are still using an even older version of Android.
Running on ridiculous hardware, mostly
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Very happy indeed.... with an iPhone
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5 to 10 minutes?
