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If you find a product with such a huge market that launches and is perfect on Day 1, please let me know.
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iOS 8 is a disaster
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This.
If you find a product with such a huge market that launches and is perfect on Day 1, please let me know.
Funny how every time someone says something that isn't negative, that they're branded to be marketing the product. Perhaps some people just don't view everything from a negative perspective. Some people take things calmly, rather than scream without any intention of working towards a solution.
Apple has certainly made mistakes over the years, and I've suffered through those as well. I've been around this stuff longer than Apple has. I've been through their great stuff, and their terrible stuff. And, I've been through tons of other companies successes and failures as well.
Some people have issues, many do not. That doesn't make it a disaster.
Everyone uses their devices differently, and some people make strange mistakes which cause the unexpected.
As someone who used to write programs, I can tell you this... You can write a program and test it thoroughly, work out the bugs, and everything will work perfectly. You can hand it to thousands of people, and they will also find that it works perfectly. Then you hand it to the one person who doesn't understand something, and they hit some odd button, and something goes weird.
Does that mean that the program doesn't work? No... It just means that the programmer didn't expect the person to do something so out there and unrelated to the task at hand.
Essentially, if you have a whole bunch of people out there trying to do things in strange ways, they may find themselves with issues. Those who went down the path expecting it to work and use it the way it works, probably won't have an issue.
In time, as people who have done odd things have problems, someone will find a way to plug that hole so that their odd configuration, mix of strange material / files, etc. don't cause an issue.
Another example, back in my school days... I spent a lot of time breaking into the school's network. I helped them fix their security... would be one way to put it. They plugged the holes, I found a new one. They'd ask me how I did it, and I'd tell them. Then they'd fix that. I'd find a new way in, and they'd ask me how I did it, and I'd tell them. Never ending game. But, it was fun, and it gave me a challenge, and taught them something too.
Perhaps you can thank me for contributing to the knowledge and design of network security.
It's all the same thing. It works until someone finds a way to make it not work. As more of those are exposed, they'll be fixed.
Not a disaster. It works as intended for those who expect it to work as designed, and who haven't done odd things with their devices that caused installation glitches.
Yikes!
I was clearly referring to the OP when I said good first post OP.
I'm not saying iOS8 doesn't have issues. I'm saying the thread starter, the OP, used his first post ever to say iOS8 was a disaster.
That sounds like astroturfing to me.
It happens all the time on product review sites.
I have a Ipad 3 and a Iphone 5S I have even restored both my devices and still can't get push notifications on my phone or Ipad.I have switched alerts on and off also and still nothing.I have tried setting apps to Alerts nothing and no Banners.I have tried everything.Hopefully they fix this.
The problem is Apple built it's reputation on designing both hardware and software that was simple to use. It discouraged tricks and oh crap how do I do that. It was all design for anyone who had no prior knowledge of Apple products to teach themselves. I go back to the Newton days and since I was a service technician back in the 80's I got to work with Macs.
Apple problem is they let an industrial hardware engineer design their software and operating systems. Jony Ive has made a mess of things. It's to the point it's sloppy coding. There's no reason why you should have massive stuttering when rotating the screen within the App Store. The inconsistencies in the UI design are not what I have come to expect from Apple. This makes them look bad considering everything they touched or created hardware/software in the past was brilliant because both hardware and software were created to be as simple as possible. We have come from "it just works to damn I hope this works".
Now we are that point in UI design thanks to Ive that he's introduced easter eggs in the design. Things as simple as tapping the X button to close the last window has given way to additional steps. For me it doesn't matter but there was a level of UI consistency and a simple thought process when Scott Forstall was designing iOS. It wasn't perfect, no software is but iOS 7/8 has thrown all of it out the window.
Is it a disaster, of course not but IMO, Apple can do a whole lot better than what was produced with the last two releases. Adding to the fact that some of these new so called features already exist in Android.
Hehe... no prob...
He certainly got his 15 minutes of fame... for sure
Everybody loves a disaster, and will jump on board to share in the story of horror
Software is never perfect, but all in all, IOS is pretty good. I have some Android devices, and another Android phone. Whenever I go to those, I feel like I've just stepped back to DOS and Windows 1.0...
You know, I was laughing the other day when I saw an advertisement for being able to emulate Windows 1.0... I'm like umm... I can't remember doing anything other than opening it, looking around, and saying.. "well, time to jump back to DOS and do something". Why would I want to emulate something that didn't do anything back then?
All in all, I think Apple's done pretty good with the IOS system. The only thing I wish it had was time / date stamping built in to the standard camera instead of having to use aftermarket programs.
Like any good series, after you get through the sequel, it's just another "been there, done that"...
At least with an operating system, it still does something.
Movies, it's just something to avoid after the second one. Well, unless you like watching grampy batphogy and his rocket powered walker trying to foil the grey haired joker's plot to take over the world from his recliner at the old folk's home
Let's get one thing clear that certainly is under the control of software engineers. Responsiveness. I have a 5S and there are still stutters all over the place.
The biggest annoyance is this wonderful slide to go back gesture now only works about half the time. Doesn't matter the app. Facebook , music, Safari. It only works if you slide your finger waaay across the damn screen. Not the case in iOS 7.
The biggest annoyance is this wonderful slide to go back gesture now only works about half the time. Doesn't matter the app. Facebook , music, Safari. It only works if you slide your finger waaay across the damn screen. Not the case in iOS 7.
iOS 8 Calendar still atrocious, and asking them to no longer use the "overuse of bright white" keyboard answer is now just use a "third party" one...
The small icons which are just all white with thin blue or red outlines are still around...
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I don't see it - new iOS "White on White"...
i guess everyone's experience is different. i am so loving ios8, everything's working well. for me (on a new 5S), this is my fave iPhone experience to date... and possibly the first time i WON'T jailbreak.
No one expects perfect, but juts better than this. When I installed iOS 8 GM I found more bugs and other quirks in an hour than I have fingers on my hands.
Tell me how can you code something and not see something so obvious. It's not some kind of complicated bugs that require many steps to reproduce. It's more like no one bothered to check simple stuff.
Yeah, and I miss Apple DOS 3.3... But, I'm not going back there
Oh, I also miss the VIC-20, TRS-80, TI-99 4/a, and dot matrix printers... But, not going back there either...
And, oh... being 13 years old... now that... take me back there please!!! I'll give you anything...
OK... now I have my wishlist... Apple, release TimeWarp for IOS 8, or I'm switching to Android
I am having major syncing issues. I cannot sync any media to my new iPhone without iTunes just stalling. No music or videos on a 128GB iPhone... way to go Apple. The first time I am really disappointed in Apple. Use the money to do some quality control please...
I'm also having problems syncing. Granted, I have a large music library (9900 songs). Was so excited to get the 128gb iphone 6. My attempts to put my music on my phone end with the sync stalling at step 6 of 6, with the message "waiting for changes to be applied."
Called Apple support, and was told that Itunes was running slowly because of all the people trying to access it, and that with my large song library, it would just take time. Tried running itunes for 3 hours before I gave up this last time. Not sure what to do.
This happened to me with the last version of iOS 7. Killing Safari from the multitasking screen and re-opening it would fix it. I haven't yet had it happen with iOS 8 but I wouldn't be surprised if it does.
Silent release from Apple: iToast
While everyone was busy complaining, and thought Apple wasn't listening, they came out with a silent release to address everyone's issues...
The new iPhone runs at 10 GHz, has 200 GB of RAM, and 10 Terrabyte's of storage, and get this... it's only as thick as your average credit card and features a whopping 30 seconds of battery life.
The new killer app... I love this one... It's called: iToast
Finally, I have a way to toast my bread in 5 seconds... and best of all, I don't have to keep holding the lever down... I love this thing.
My only complaint, is I can only toast 6 slices of bread before the battery runs out... at least it came with a power adapter
I'm anxiously awaiting the successor to iToast... Rumor is, Apple will call it: iJam... Oh, wait, maybe I don't want that one after all
While everyone was busy complaining, and thought Apple wasn't listening, they came out with a silent release to address everyone's issues...
The new iPhone runs at 10 GHz, has 200 GB of RAM, and 10 Terrabyte's of storage, and get this... it's only as thick as your average credit card and features a whopping 30 seconds of battery life.
The new killer app... I love this one... It's called: iToast
Finally, I have a way to toast my bread in 5 seconds... and best of all, I don't have to keep holding the lever down... I love this thing.
My only complaint, is I can only toast 6 slices of bread before the battery runs out... at least it came with a power adapter
I'm anxiously awaiting the successor to iToast... Rumor is, Apple will call it: iJam... Oh, wait, maybe I don't want that one after all
Oh that was about iOS 8 and the rest of the following paragraph was about something else? Seemed like it all was about that something else.
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All the new features I was using (as I mentined in that post) are fine. The person I was responding to on the other hand implied that pretty much all new features weren't working.
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Things don't look different so that means nothing really changed. Yeah, there's some solid logic there.
IOS 7 was a mess when it was released and took a few updates to get right, IOS8 seems the same for some. "Ive" no idea what those two releases have in common.
Honestly though Apple seem to be trying to add a ton of features with both of these releases that probably cause more issues than their previous Keep It Simple stance in previous releases.
iOS7 took a whole year to get to a state that was even remotely as bug-free as iOS6. If that's the case for iOS8 as well, then Apple are going to lose their fanbase slowly but surely. Debacles like this, two years on the trot, would kill most companies dead.
I just went back to 7.1.2 from 8.0, and there's a reason for that. I, and many others, are aware of that not all software works perfectly on release. This isn't the case with iOS 8. It is completely under par with what you should expect.
Let's begin with the keyboard. I had problems with this lag, I'm not sure if many others had the same problem. If I wanted to search something in Safari, write a note, or sometimes messages, it would freeze completely for 2-7 seconds. Typed a couple of characters, and it froze. This happened especially when I used backspace. I managed to fix it though. Disabling iCloud Drive seemed to fix it, but this should NOT be necessary.
Secondly, I experienced several crashes when changing settings in the settings app. This happened not just once (I went back and forth from 7.1.2 to 8.0 a little), and exactly the same happened. If you wonder what specifically I was changing, it was the location settings. This was without having any other apps installed, as this usually is one of the first things I do when I set up my phone.
Also, the network speed. Now this was kind of awful, because this was not temporarily like the other two. I noticed this immediately after installing, because I, like many others, install a bunch of apps pretty fast. After installing, which took a looong time, the performance was insanely bad. Just sending a picture on Snapchat took ages. It took up to 10 seconds at worst to send a photo to ONE person. If you've used it, you know the quality is really low, and it shouldn't take more than <1 second after you press send. This performance was very apparent in Safari as well. Pages were loading painfully slow, and when paired with the awful keyboard, it was a total disaster.
This was just some of the problems I found after using the OS for a couple of hours. It should not be like this. Small bugs I can understand, but when core apps and functionality is so insanely bad, there's something very, very wrong.
Imo Apple has become more and more sloppy after iOS 6 was released, when Forstall was fired. Sure, Maps was a disaster, and Forstall had it coming when he acted like he did. But this was not a problem with the OS itself, just one app, with a problem on the server side. iOS itself was fine. And even if Forstall was acting like a dick, he was a damn good engineer.
And by the way, it doesn't matter if it's 1 person or 100 million who find problems, when the majority is finding the same ones.
Edit: I also agree that some are blowing this out of proportion, but this is still way under par.
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This has been happening to me since iOS6, and on two different iPhones. Killing Safari in the app tray is the only (temporary) solution.