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iOS 8 is a disaster
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Or they just want attention. Unfortunately, hyperbole and calling out people with experiences to the contrary as liars are easy ways to get it.
flyinmac
macrumors 68040
That's strange. I'm trying to figure out how this unusable ios is responding to your message. Oh wait... That's because despite being unusable, it's doing everything I ask it to do with exceptional ease and agility.
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Yep... Noisy people keep buying the junk they complain about. Switch to windows and android. Then you can go clog their forums with complaints.
If it's junk, walk with your money. If you keep buying it, you're just encouraging them and praising them.
Enjoy the android experience. Oh, by the way, I do have an android phone too. You know the best thing about it, all its bugs are there for good. Only way I can get an update is to either hack it or buy a new one. Now that's product support for you.
Enjoy the android while you reminisce about how inconvenient it was to get updates.
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How true. You're not having problems???? Well sir, then you are a liar and must work for apple.
kas23
macrumors 603
I don't think it's "unusable", but this is the only iOS upgrade I've ever used that has bugs. They're not major, but there's many and they're annoying. Like how things keep changing in Settings. I rename my iPhone to "kas's iPhone 6+". I go back there a few hours later, it just says "iPhone". I click off showing location indicator in the task bar. It's still up there. Stuff changing by itself. It's like my iPhone's haunted!
Not being able to highlight stuff while writing my posts has got to be the worst bug of them all.
Not being able to highlight stuff while writing my posts has got to be the worst bug of them all.
AxoNeuron
macrumors 65816
First, iOS 7 and iOS 8 is an enormous improvement over what iOS 6 was. Getting rid of the skeumorphism was a great leap forward. It's subjective, but I personally think ios 7 is the best looking mobile operating system out there, I think Jony Ive did an absolutely amazing job with it. Scott Forstall was a petty tyrant, claiming credit for other people's work and blaming others for his own mistakes, he had to go and Apple made the right choice.
You can say how nice it would be for Apple to hire engineers and just throw a billion dollars at the problem, but it really shows how little you know about software development. In the software world, throwing money at a problem usually only makes it worse. Apple has limited engineering resources, not because of s lack of money, but because of a simple lack of good software engineers out there who are willing and able to work at Apple. We're not talking about engineers who can make an app, I'm talking about engineers who can write assembly microcode to control the minute operations of a processor, the true genius engineers at are ridiculously hard to come by.
Apple will fix things. As far as problems go, these are all relatively minor and I have not had any issues whatsoever with iOS 8 except for some minor annoyances with Swiftkey (and that's not Apple's fault to begin with).
kas23
macrumors 603
People who say they are not having any issues just must not be using their phones enough to find these issues. I'll admit, I've been in mine nonstop and I'm finding problems. Again, I've never experienced one issue with a x.0 update.
ron7624
macrumors 68020
Never buy at launch. It takes weeks and sometimes months to get it right ------he says as he uses the dictation feature on his new iPhone 6
I've seen little bit of the laggy stuff you guys are talking about but nothing nearly as bad is it references above.
Abazigal
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I don't think it's a disaster, but my first impressions is that the benefits of ios8 are still largely not felt yet.
With the previous iOS updates, the benefits were obvious because they were baked into the OS. Multitasking, notifications, a revamped UI. With ios8, the signature features (extensions, widgets) is largely dependent on support from 3rd party developers, so it can be a while before you find that selection which best suits your needs.
I am currently playing around with a bunch of widgets and haven't found any to be particularly useful yet. Pcalc looks fun but it's $10 to add a calculator widget to my iPad's notification shade. 🙁
With the previous iOS updates, the benefits were obvious because they were baked into the OS. Multitasking, notifications, a revamped UI. With ios8, the signature features (extensions, widgets) is largely dependent on support from 3rd party developers, so it can be a while before you find that selection which best suits your needs.
I am currently playing around with a bunch of widgets and haven't found any to be particularly useful yet. Pcalc looks fun but it's $10 to add a calculator widget to my iPad's notification shade. 🙁
iOS 8 is a disaster
Exactly! As is always the case with any X.0 release. 7.0, 6.0, 5.0 we're all disasters until the X.0.x release... Common stuff, gang.. Take a deep breath.
Zellio
macrumors 65816
Spoken like a true fanboy who selfishly assumes that the majority has no problems. Why don't you take your own advice and bug off?
Abazigal
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I don't think anyone here is saying they have zero issues, just that the outcry here seems very disproportionate to the severity of the problems.
Are there bugs? Sure. Do they render your phone inoperable? I doubt so. So just relax, vent some steam here if you need to, then move on. Rather than keep harping on it over and over again.
It's not selfish to assume the majority has no problems, it's just logical. People are far more motivated to post threads about problems than they are to simply say they think something is good. Take the Apple Support Forums for example- why on earth would people waste time to post a thread about how everything is working for them? It's a place where people go for help with problems, yet some people take the content of those forums as proof that the majority of people have problems with *insert Apple device here*.
Even at MacRumors, people create accounts just to complain about a certain problem or ask for honest advice about a hardware or software issue they're facing. It similarly skews the perception that certain bugs affect far more people than they actually do. For example, who is more likely to post in a thread about screen defects- people who have a screen defect or people who don't?
My point is, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Even taking my own posting habits into account, I rarely create threads here unless I have a problem with an Apple product. In reality, those problems are the exception to the rule for me.
Lastly, why would you tell an Apple fanboy to leave a site that exists for the purpose of providing coverage of and discussion for Apple products? I'm far less out of place here than the people who enjoy poking sticks in the eyes of those who dare enjoy their "outdated" and "crippled" devices.
mangomind
macrumors 6502a
They only had like 9+ years to get iOS 8 right. Surprising that they didn't pull it off right?
klamse25
macrumors 6502a
Too bad he's not the only ones with the issues. iOS 8 is horrid and littered with bugs. It's practically unusable and very much feels like better software. Stop using the straw man fallacy too. Literally everything you said in caps does not represent how the OP feels.
I bet if he had the option to downgrade to iOS 7, he would do so.
jamesrick80
macrumors 68030
iOS sucks on my iPad air, this new update shows so many bugs and is very laggy. There is also a keyboard bug when you use the dolphin browser, the space bar is on top of the smiley face sometimes. Safari is slower than my other browsers now and the bookmarks option sucks. My iPad Air crashed for the first time yesterday too....🙁
I helped relaunch seven websites with a team of not even the number of employees in a single Apple Store. We had nowhere near Apple's budget or lead time. The first day, chaos. We tackled things as they came up, but you can not QA anything like that or iPhone operating systems on a scale that will be used the first day. You will look at 1,500 different things while actual users will try to use 15 million.
This is why I often totally understand Apple's decision-making process. They don't launch OS versions with as many features as people want quite often because they probably pick a certain number they think they can refine to a certain amount and then get that as right as they can. That's probably the exact reason Touch ID was used for about two or three things for the first year.
Like it or not, those of us who buy the latest hardware at the outset are kind of beta testers. The key is to not get all crazy and remember that hardware and software will never be perfect. Remember the Apple Maps fiasco? It was BAD, but it also got people pointing out that even Google Maps isn't perfect with an extra five-year head start. Apple Maps is now perfectly fine at what it does. Hell, MobileMe was a train wreck but iCloud works pretty darn well.
Macshroomer
macrumors 65816
I know sometimes it is hard to resist, but unless you have brand new hardware that comes with it like the iPhone 6, why set your self up to be a Charlie tester? I used to update willy-nilly until I had a **major** data loss due to a crap OS release. It took me close to 3 months to get a massive library back in order, all because I wanted to see what the new OS was like right when it came out.
If you are like me and don't like seeing productivity on your tools fall through the floor, just wait a revision or two, it seems to always do the trick. Heck I am even skipping the new phone for the first time ever, used to update every two years since the iPhone 3. No more, I have better things to do than become a slave to tech...
If you are like me and don't like seeing productivity on your tools fall through the floor, just wait a revision or two, it seems to always do the trick. Heck I am even skipping the new phone for the first time ever, used to update every two years since the iPhone 3. No more, I have better things to do than become a slave to tech...
I have noticed a lag here and there and some apps crashing. But some of these apps crashed before, so it's hard to peg that on any single thing.
Family Sharing seems a little undercooked, but the implementation using Apple TV is great. So, I mean, everything seems mostly fine. Hell, I'm using a pre-release GM on my iPhone and using a Yosemite beta on my MBA. It could be on bad hardware, maybe the install went bad, I dunno. But sometimes I think stuff gets blown out of proportion because out of the millions of users out there, five will be on here complaining about the same thing. My dad had this annoying Facebook glitch on his iPad that I could NOT figure out. I couldn't even remove his account using iOS 7 and then re-install it. But it worked after the iOS 8 upgrade. So hey, good news there.
I like people posting issues they find. I'm still annoyed at not getting my phone on launch day and looking at Apple's inventory at every store around here -- THEY ALL HAVE MY PHONE. But stupid AT&T. I'm going to probably hit the local AT&T store and see if they can just give me a damn phone. I'm using the Next financing, so I can't just go to an Apple Store and pick one up -- unfortunately.
I seem to have met you on another forum Abigail, one of the greatest Apple lovers of all time, Apple can do no wrong as far as you're concerned.
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I've got the Air as well and having similar problems, as well as really bad battery drain, except that I've now fixed that up, but still very laggy, my iPad 2 is faster on IOS 7.
Abazigal
Contributor
Flattery will get you nowhere. 😉
But seriously, I am just asking people to be fair here. I don't think Apple is infallible, and I have called them out on areas which I feel they are falling behind on.
My experience is that ios8 is very useable, and a very functional update. Bit by bit, app updates are trickling in, and with every update, the utility of my iOS devices can only increase.
It's far from the disaster drama kings and queens here are making it out to be.
Why would you expect it to be jerky, did you pay $5 for it, or is it one of those Android pieces of junk.