iOS 8 is a disaster

[Digital Skunk]

Right now I am getting the same issues I had before. Random crashes and freezes, laggy performance on and off but nothing too bad, random device restarts and staling.

Nothing new to iOS from what I've experienced and nothing too unlike Android.

 

[macnerd93]

Why would you expect it to be jerky, did you pay $5 for it, or is it one of those Android pieces of junk.

No, but its a relatively old device now in regards to technology. My iPhone 5S runs like a charm, but the iPad mini 1st generation is not exactly fast even on iOS 7.

 

[RockSpider]

Flattery will get you nowhere.

But seriously, I am just asking people to be fair here. I don't think Apple is infallible, and I have called them out on areas which I feel they are falling behind on.

My experience is that ios8 is very useable, and a very functional update. Bit by bit, app updates are trickling in, and with every update, the utility of my iOS devices can only increase.

It's far from the disaster drama kings and queens here are making it out to be.

Like I said Abigail, you're a true Apple lover and anybody that has a problem with the great God Apple and its products is lying or exaggerating. From my experience Apple updates have a lot more problems than either Windows or Android. With all the money at Apples disposal there shouldn't be any problems at all or very minor ones.
Apple has the worst reputation for any software updates by far.

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No, but its a relatively old device now in regards to technology. My iPhone 5S runs like a charm, but the iPad mini 1st generation is not exactly fast even on iOS 7.

I too had an iPad Mini but sold it off within a few months, too laggy for me, yet everyone seems to rave on about it because it's Apple.

My iPad Air after the IOS8 update now runs on a par with my old Mini. I'm hoping a couple of updates will fix it, otherwise I'm heading over to the Samsung Galaxy S.

 

[ImNoSuperMan]

There was a time when I'd jump on every new OS release from apple, be it iOS or mac. Not anymore. I'd much rather wait a few months for a stable release. I understand no first release is perfect, not even when it's from apple but things have been really ****** lately. Apple doesn't really seem to concerned about quality anymore. Just pump it out to meet the deadline and fix the issues later seems to be their mentality nowadays.

 

[sanke1]

Like I said Abigail, you're a true Apple lover and anybody that has a problem with the great God Apple and its products is lying or exaggerating. From my experience Apple updates have a lot more problems than either Windows or Android. With all the money at Apples disposal there shouldn't be any problems at all or very minor ones.
Apple has the worst reputation for any software updates by far.

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I too had an iPad Mini but sold it off within a few months, too laggy for me, yet everyone seems to rave on about it because it's Apple.

My iPad Air after the IOS8 update now runs on a par with my old Mini. I'm hoping a couple of updates will fix it, otherwise I'm heading over to the Samsung Galaxy S.

Yup I too get that a lot. Few people are completely oblivious to lag and safari stuttering. They simply refuse to acknowledge other people's problems because they don't have them.

iOS 8 on my iPad Air is totally unusable. Now my iPad randomly reboots, Safari is laggy mess. Considering iPad is my main browsing device, poor Safari experience pisses me even more. So I downgraded back to 7.1.2 on both iPad Air and iPhone 5c and 5S. Everything is back to normal now. But the only thing which is constantly bugging is every device is now trying to download the update file. That has considerably slowed down my 2 Mbps ADSL connection.

 

[C DM]

They only had like 9+ years to get iOS 8 right. Surprising that they didn't pull it off right?

Except that the logic there just doesn't quite hold. They weren't working on that code for a long as they were on the code that iOS 6 was based on.

 

[MacrumoursUser]

Flattery will get you nowhere.

But seriously, I am just asking people to be fair here. I don't think Apple is infallible, and I have called them out on areas which I feel they are falling behind on.

My experience is that ios8 is very useable, and a very functional update. Bit by bit, app updates are trickling in, and with every update, the utility of my iOS devices can only increase.

It's far from the disaster drama kings and queens here are making it out to be.

Not a disaster of course, but let's see what we have. Slower with jerky animation (randomly). Many simple UI object resizing issues. Bugs so obvious a monkey could find them. Then it's iclou photo libraries suddenly going back to beta. Sms relay pushed back. Then the keynote stream which was a complete disaster.

If software is not ready why do you ship it? I'm looking at it and I see it needs at least 2 more months of work.

I'm doing Apple a favour by holding it to a higher standard and I will keep doing so.

 

[Tubamajuba]

Like I said Abigail, you're a true Apple lover and anybody that has a problem with the great God Apple and its products is lying or exaggerating. From my experience Apple updates have a lot more problems than either Windows or Android. With all the money at Apples disposal there shouldn't be any problems at all or very minor ones.
Apple has the worst reputation for any software updates by far.

Abazigal shared her experience, and you're sharing yours. I suppose you think that your experience is fact and hers is made up?

Apple certainly doesn't have a bad reputation with software updates. That said, far more people update iPhones and iPads than they do Android devices, so a larger number of people are likely to experience problems.

 

[V_Man]

Just wait for 8.1

/s

So Apple should release a os that is severely flawed and not ready for release. When someone spends this kind of $ on a phone it should "just work"
You shouldn't have to wait for updates

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I have nothing to contribute here. iOS 8 isn't a disaster - to me.

So many drama queens in this thread.

Or people who won't see the truth. Apple isn't perfect. In fact they are far from it.

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I love iOS 8

BUT.:

My 5S gets extremely hot
Battery goes from 100% to 60% with 20 minuttes of Safari use
Many App's closes for no reason ALL the time

Great reason to love it. Sounds like it is a mess. You must be easily satisfied with your 1000 phone

 

[crashoverride77]

1. Safari on iPad Air, when you tap on address bar, the keyboard stutters while coming up. But if you disable transparency from accessibility settings, the lag disappears.

2. Safari loads pages slower and slower as time passes, to the point it simply refuses to load any pages completely. Solution is to disable and enable wifi or disable spotlight search in Safari settings.

3. Safari reloads tabs after switching from another app using multitasking menu. Solution? There is no solution for this problem. Either Apple optimize Safari further or increase RAM in future models to 2 GB or more. As the websites get heavier and heavier, this tab reloading problem is going to worsen further.

4. Safari crashes randomly. Again, poorly optimized Safari and lack of RAM (! GB only) is the culprit.

5. New weather app on iPhones is laggy when tapping on different cities.

6. Random crash logs and Thermal not updating, stacks+backboardd logs in diagnostic data. (Apple will fix this)

7. Music app is laggy while scrolling albums on iPhone 5c and 5.

Some people here clearly exaggerate with their ios 8 experience or having done a bad install. This happens every year with iOS or OS X.
I think you nailed most of the issues I have with iOS 8 as well.

1) agree since safari stutter is the main issue I have on my iPad Air. The rest of the os runs pretty smooth for me

2) also totally agree although this has been an issue since iOS 7 and still persists.

3) we all know this, been in ios since ever so is not an ios 8 issue. Hopefully iPad Air 2 has 2gb.

4) safari hasn't crashed for me yet.

5) haven't got this issue. UPDATED: tested again and I wouldn't say its laggy but there is some stutter.

6) not really sure what you mean

7) agreed, even have this on my iPad air. So annoying...

Not sure but my iPhone 6 runs super smooth 99% of the time, maybe its the new A8, although this clearly shouldn't be an excuse, especially for safari stutter.

 

[Abazigal]

Abazigal shared her experience, and you're sharing yours. I suppose you think that your experience is fact and hers is made up?

Apple certainly doesn't have a bad reputation with software updates. That said, far more people update iPhones and iPads than they do Android devices, so a larger number of people are likely to experience problems.

Thanks, but I am actually a guy. The name comes from the a certain dragon boss in the Baldur's Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal computer game.

So Apple should release a os that is severely flawed and not ready for release. When someone spends this kind of $ on a phone it should "just work"
You shouldn't have to wait for updates

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Or people who won't see the truth. Apple isn't perfect. In fact they are far from it.

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Great reason to love it. Sounds like it is a mess. You must be easily satisfied with your 1000 phone

I never said that Apple is perfect, but they aren't run by idiots either (which is what you people seem to be implying), and I find they generally make more right calls than wrong ones. I reiterate my earlier stance. IOS8 has bugs, but they have been relatively minor for me (settings app crashes when I try to access keyboard shortcuts, for one).

Animations and transitions generally seem smoother and more fluid. I am now finally able to save Medium and Safari articles directly to pocket. Playing around with widgets and have found a few nice ones. On the fence about 3rd party keyboards. Quick reply / actionable notifications is a godsend, and I look forward to it being supported by more apps.

By and large, it has been working very well for me on both my 5s and retina iPad mini, and I am not sorry I updated, even though it meant waking up an hour earlier before work just so I could play around with it at work.

 

[agaskew]

I keep seeing the defenders of all things Apple trotting out "you must have done a bad install" as one reason why some people are having issues with iOS8.

Please explain exactly how anyone can perform a "bad" install of iSO8? You go in to Settings, General, Software Update, choose to install and say Yes a few times, that's it. Or, iTunes prompts you to update. Either way, there really isn't much opportunity for anyone to influence the install, short of pulling the power half way through...

 

[oldmacs]

It's obviously deeply flawed as it is jittery on the iPhone 6 at times. IOS 7 wasn't jittery on either the 5 or the 5S.

Add to that apple forcing me off iPhoto to a crap solution that has half the features, half the ios 8 features not being ready, poor performance - it's obvious this should have been in beta longer. Why should the average user need to erase their device just to get reasonable ios performance? Most people update over the air.

Last year iOS 7 was a much smoother update and I was using the two oldest supported vices, the iPhone 4 and ipad 2. This year I have the ipad 2 still but now an iPhone 5 so it should have gone a lot better for me.

I accept that updating on day 1 is a risk but apple could have managed it better. Maybe it should give a warning that your device may have issues after updating as there a lot of people who have ended up with slow and buggy devices because they don't know not to update.

 

[crashoverride77]

I keep seeing the defenders of all things Apple trotting out "you must have done a bad install" as one reason why some people are having issues with iOS8.

Please explain exactly how anyone can perform a "bad" install of iSO8? You go in to Settings, General, Software Update, choose to install and say Yes a few times, that's it. Or, iTunes prompts you to update. Either way, there really isn't much opportunity for anyone to influence the install, short of pulling the power half way through...

Bad install also can be in conjunction with restoring from iCloud backup. Most people have backups from previous iPhones (some are years old) which sometimes messes up the restore. This is also the main reason people get bad battery drain as they will never set up the phone as new.

We are not defending apple there is always some issues, remember iOS 4 and 5 and 6. Steve Jobs wasn't rolling around in his grave at that point.
It's the people that have crazy anomalies and bugs that are clearly not representative of what the actual product is like but spew their nonsense nonetheless.

 

[oldmacs]

Bad install also can be in conjunction with restoring from iCloud backup. Most people have backups from previous iPhones (some are years old) which sometimes messes up the restore. This is also the main reason people get bad battery drain as they will never set up the phone as new.

We are not defending apple there is always some issues, remember iOS 4 and 5?
It's the people that have crazy anomalies and bugs that are clearly not representative of what the actual product is like.

Or for the millionth time apple has yet again engineered an ios update that kills battery life regardless of clean install or backup. My iphone 5 is getting 3 hours max battery.

 

[crashoverride77]

Or for the millionth time apple has yet again engineered an ios update that kills battery life regardless of clean install or backup. My iphone 5 is getting 3 hours max battery.

Yeah because everyone is having this issue. I hear in the news all the time that iPhones only last 3 hours . When people talk about battery drain it's normally about standby ie. 100% at bedtime than 70-80 in the morning.
I give you a tip, go to apple and exchange your phone like I told my friend FOR THE MILLIONTH time

 

[oldmacs]

Yeah because everyone is having this issue, I hear about it in the news all the time. I give you a tip, go to apple and exchange your phone.

I know a heap of people with battery issues. My Dad's 5 is a apple replacement from a month ago and gets 2.5 hours max usage.

iOS 7.1 was well publicised for massive battery issues, as was one of the variants of iOS 5.

Almost everyone I know who has gone to iOS 8 now has crap battery life.

 

[crashoverride77]

I know a heap of people with battery issues. My Dad's 5 is a apple replacement from a month ago and gets 2.5 hours max usage.

iOS 7.1 was well publicised for massive battery issues, as was one of the variants of iOS 5.

Almost everyone I know who has gone to iOS 8 now has crap battery life.

Not 3 hours, I don't know anyone that gets 3 hours. That's a joke it's like 5 hours less than what you ment too. None of these widely reported issues are for such bad battery life and as I said is mainly standby drainage.
So you and your dad just life with this and blame it on Apple software and think everyone is having these issues?
Maybe you have one of the phones that are affected by the faulty battery that Apple will replace for you. If the majority of people would get 3 hours than there would be a massive outrage that would surely be publicised by every major tech and news company.

 

[theapplefanboyj]

Works okay in my iPad Air. Not perfect but it's definitely usable.

 

[crashoverride77]

Works okay in my iPad Air. Not perfect but it's definitely usable.

I agree, as some user mentioned above the main issues I have is stuttering while scrolling in Safari (also when keyboad pops up) and the music app. The actual navigation through the OS is otherwise pretty smooth for me, haven't really noticed a difference compared to iOS 7.1.
It seems like they focused more on the new iPhone's and didn't quite optimise for iPads. This is the same as with iOS 7.0 which for all its criticism for performance was mainly due to how it run on iPads initially.
There is also some weird iCloud music usage bug which I mentioned in a thread I made.

 

[MEMSMaster]

Yup I too get that a lot. Few people are completely oblivious to lag and safari stuttering. They simply refuse to acknowledge other people's problems because they don't have them.

A lot of the rationalizations being offered for the iOS8 problems, both the release versions and the later betas, follow the same structure as the "pushback" on the 5s compass problem. Despite the fact that electronic compasses had been accurate to 0.5 degree for 20 years, and that the compasses and gyro in the 5 was good enough for aircraft navigation (although one should not use it as such), suddenly we were told that +/- 3 degrees and random wandering was normal, good, expected. Anyone who discussed or documented the issues was labeled a whiner, a hater, out of touch with the reality of hardware and software development - even when test results using survey-grade test equipment were published confirming the problems. Then 11 weeks later the magic iOS point release was issued, the compass bug was fixed, and suddenly we heard no more from the rationalizers.

IMHO, iOS and the iPhone are well thought out and well executed designs, the best on the market. Despite my deep misgivings about the fundamental flaws of Bauhaus style I continue to use iDevices in preference to other options. But I've also worked on some pretty big software and hardware/software projects, and the beta programs for both 7 and 8 have indicated to me some potential internal technical management issues. I'll give them that iOS7 was a major change in architecture and personnel and there were going to be teething problems. But 8 was supposed to be the perfection of 7 with a year of experience. You just can't stop releasing betas when there are as many consistent serious problem reports outstanding as there were at the end of July - no matter how much the "don't worry; it's a beta" shouts down those reports.

 

[V_Man]

I just find it amazing that Apple has always been know for "just working" problem is now that ios 7 never just worked perfect. and ios 8 is even worse. They should change it to "it might work.

 

[mangomind]

Except that the logic there just doesn't quite hold. They weren't working on that code for a long as they were on the code that iOS 6 was based on.

New iOS versions are basically the old versions with added code. They didn't add as much code onto iOS 5 to make iOS 6 as they did with the other iOS releases. All iOS versions are based directly off each other. iOS 7 did include much new code, but iOS 7 was built off of 6, which was based on 5, etc.

I don't see why iOS 8 has so many bugs and features that aren't working, yet Apple has many more engineers to work on iOS than ever before. Apple is having more problems with developing iOS than long ago, when very few engineers worked on iOS. Why, Apple? Maybe it's just because 1 year just isn't enough time for a new OS to go through the development process.

 

[C DM]

I know a heap of people with battery issues. My Dad's 5 is a apple replacement from a month ago and gets 2.5 hours max usage.

iOS 7.1 was well publicised for massive battery issues, as was one of the variants of iOS 5.

Almost everyone I know who has gone to iOS 8 now has crap battery life.

I've had the opposite observations and experiences about iOS 7 and 8. So...yeah...nothing that's truly there widespread or majorly flawed.

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New iOS versions are basically the old versions with added code. They didn't add as much code onto iOS 5 to make iOS 6 as they did with the other iOS releases. All iOS versions are based directly off each other. iOS 7 did include much new code, but iOS 7 was built off of 6, which was based on 5, etc.

I don't see why iOS 8 has so many bugs and features that aren't working, yet Apple has many more engineers to work on iOS than ever before. Apple is having more problems with developing iOS than long ago, when very few engineers worked on iOS. Why, Apple? Maybe it's just because 1 year just isn't enough time for a new OS to go through the development process.

Not all versions build on previous ones the same way. iOS 7 was built much more sparately by different people in various cases than previous versions.

 

[mtneer]

So Apple should release a os that is severely flawed and not ready for release. When someone spends this kind of $ on a phone it should "just work"
You shouldn't have to wait for updates

Severely flawed?? really? How is that not on the news?