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This is disappointing. This market share for Apple is terrible. I'd love to see iOS with six figure units sold each quarter. This has to do with iOS pricing for iPhone. A lower cost device will bring Apple higher ongoing income from other products and services,

At what point do developers stop making apps for iOS? Wasn't that the issue the Mac had in the 1990's, a smaller and smaller market share, so developers abandon it?

Six-figure? That's eight-figure units sold: 44,000,000
 
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Crazy how quickly Windows phone has just died completely. Microsoft really has seemed to have given up.
Apple brought the whole modern smartphone package, full-front screen, virtual keyboard, full web-browsing, apps. Android brought variety, most of the same things as Apple, but with support - somewhere - for whatever weird feature you wanted (if you want a phone with a built-in blender or water wings, some company is making it), as well as low-end phones. Windows phone brought... what, exactly? Something blessed by Steve Ballmer and Microsoft? What does that give the average consumer that they didn't already have?

If you're the third person to show up to the party in a Spiderman costume, you'd better be able to break dance or something, or you're not going to make much of an impression.
 
BlackBerry is down and all is Chens own fault.

Currently I own a BlackBerry Passport and I just love the phone, I would like holding the phone and the OS for a couple of years more, but their CEO just doesn't know how to promote their own OS. He openly doubted if the company would continue selling phones something you should never but never should do, so not surprisingly the sales went down to a point it´s weird seeing a BlackBerry in the wild.

I don´t know if I will switch to a Android BlackBerry or an Iphone but I know I will support one of the 2 camps with a higher marketshare because I am obliged to do so.
 
This is pretty normal... In the start of iOS's life, there were dumb phones, and iPhones - and then symbian, and others..

Now that EVERY other brand combined is android, and ONE brand is iPhone, this is pretty normal - and it has always been like this.

When iOS was like 80% iOS, 20% android,its not because 80% of the phones in the world were iPhones.. it was because people had phones which were not included in that category...

Buttom line: iPhone has never sold as good as now, as the single Apple brand it is:
http://www.statista.com/statistics/276306/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-fiscal-year-2007/


Some of you were probably mislead and thought apple owned the market back then, and everyone walked around with an iPhone... , and now in 2016, they will close the doors. hehe :)

Yes they have gone down a tiny bit, but nothing remarkable.
 
Android has come a long away.

I believe this year will be the 1st year I buy an Android phone because of the lack of innovation from Apple and the iPhone 7.

Hehe, that's such a dry comment... "lack of innovation"... what do you need that your current iPhone can't do? Honestly, list two things. Now show me an Android that can do exactly that while keeping your information safe + while integrating elegantly with your other devices. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist... I'm genuinely interested in learning about this. Clearly you've done your research.
 
Android is Linux. You can have a Linux shell with installable packages via Termux app and even control all aspects of phone such as speech to text, camera, GPS, etc. from command line.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux

As for the other issues it's an iOS limitation because Android home screen can be as personalized or as bare as you want and notifications can be disabled completely or per app.
You are why forums exist. Others not so much.

Good insight I'd have overlooked (or never would have dug into).
 
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Apple's AppStore sells 90% more than Google's.

People who buy Androids are mostly the people who just want to have a touch smartphone "like the other people", and keep themselves to the preinstalled apps, or pirating games off google.

What about people who want expandable storage via SD cards?
What about those who want water resistance?
What about those who want an OMLED display?
What about those who want a higher resolution display?
What about those who want better battery life?
What about those who want more RAM?
What about those who want more for there money?

Galaxy S7 offers all the above with 32GB storage (again expandable via the SD card slot), 4GB ram (double!), for cheaper than the entry level 16GB iPhone 6S, and that's one of the most expensive Android phones you can buy. CPU, cameras and build quality are on a comparable level. HTC 10 and LG G5 are other respectable flagship choices that offer similar specs/performance/quality. The only thing Apple has that Android doesn't is force touch.

You can also get a decent mid-range phone like the Moto G4, and although it may be missing touch-ID and have slower CPU and a poorer camera, it's only $200, less than the third of the price of an iPhone 6S!

Personally I think Apple is nuts thinking they can get away with selling so little at flagship prices. One at a time people get fed up, try Android, find out it's actually pretty darn good and stick with it.
 
umm you do know that android is based in linux right?
"Android uses the Linux kernel under the hood. Because Linux is open-source, Google's Android developers could modify the Linux kernel to fit their needs."
I was just filled in. I guess I've been too buried in Apple's too full grave.
 
Does it even matter? If we start seeing Android phones in cereal boxes it still doesn't help Apple. Heck, a week ago I saw a $25 prepaid Android phone at Target. And before that as low as $20 with a $25 gift card, you actually made $5 (I use that phone when working on my car). Bottom line is that people don't use these phones to their full potential to care about the version of Android it's running. You don't need a $400 phone with the latest version of Android to play Pokemon Go, browse the internet, check emails or listen to music.
Apple

I saw an ad from a phone carrier advertise buy one apple phone get one free. What's your point?
 
Shame android marketshare is high but given anyone can buy a random crap android at best buy for $59 its not surprising.

Still find ios and windows to be better. Android has this perpetual beta feel seven years later
 
This is disappointing. This market share for Apple is terrible. I'd love to see iOS with six figure units sold each quarter. This has to do with iOS pricing for iPhone. A lower cost device will bring Apple higher ongoing income from other products and services,

At what point do developers stop making apps for iOS? Wasn't that the issue the Mac had in the 1990's, a smaller and smaller market share, so developers abandon it?

Mass marketshare is only important is one important way — compatibility. And this is where Apple does hurt itself.

From a business perspective, it doesn't matter — to Apple or app developers — if iOS has the largest marketshare. Case in point — Android does, yet it yields only 10% of the profit that iOS does.

Developers will continue to build for iOS because that's where the profit margins are. iOS continues to set the bar by which Android and the others are judged, and I don't see that changing for the next 10 years.
 
Personally I think Apple is nuts thinking they can get away with selling so little at flagship prices. One at a time people get fed up, try Android, find out it's actually pretty darn good and stick with it.

Personally, I think Android sucks donkey balls. Every time I touch an Android device I'm amazed at how crappy it is. It's like everything is 90% baked.
 
Personally, I think Android sucks donkey balls. Every time I touch an Android device I'm amazed at how crappy it is. It's like everything is 90% baked.
And I think that extra 10% is why Apple is so hard to leave. I truly believe it's how the OS and hardware play with each other. Android is way too universal to be universally optimised. Have you ever tried out a Nexus? I think that was the only Android phone I looked at that felt and performed great.
 


This is a more updated version of that report. It's also a better written article. It highlights one of the reasons the Play Store will probably never equal the revenue of the App Store. China. It's the largest mobile gaming market and the second largest app market for Apple overall. Google Play store sees none of the revenue from China's Android apps. Depending on who you ask, Google was either booted out, or chose to leave China's market over censorship issues. Baidu, Tencent, and other Chinese Android app stores reap the benefits. Google is desperately trying to get back into China. As with Apple, the prospect of revenue has made Google rethink that principled stance. Principle doesn't generate revenue.
https://9to5mac.com/2016/07/19/app-store-q2-numbers-continues-lead-over-play-store/

Here's an example of why Google wants to get back in China.
https://www.morningstar.com/news/do...cent-scores-profit-gain-on-mobile-gaming.html
 
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Maybe it isn't all about pricing and people actually LIKE Android or the OEM hardware? Did that ever cross your mind? I have seen this drivel from posters for the last six plus years now. Maybe some of us smartphone users actually prefer hardware over software which is where Apple gets beat from their procrastination.

Oh yeah, and Samsung makes more revenue than Apple every year. Or will you assume Samsung only makes appliances and electronics like you assume the only reason why Android is popular is because of price? Maybe some of us don't want to be stuck on crappy iTunes which can't recognize MKV or AVI. We want an sd slot, double tap to wake, file manager, Bluetooth transfer, FM radio, sideload apps, and several features that the iPhone 7 is barely getting now.

Assumptions is the mother of all f ups. Trying to speak for every Android user out there when not all of us are basing it on price but hardware features and a more robust OS that isn't some cookie cutter OS being spoonfed to us. Maybe we don't want to be trapped in some ecosystem we don't care for like many here.

Are you a Mac user that uses a Samsung phone? I'm interested in what that experience is like since you can't sync with iTunes or iCloud.

If you're neither a Mac user or an iOS user, why are you on Mac Rumors?

Everyone I know with an Android phone bought one because of price.
 
can't recognize MKV or AVI. We want an sd slot, double tap to wake, file manager, Bluetooth transfer, FM radio, sideload apps, and several features that the iPhone 7 is barely getting now.

Why would you want any of those things? M4A is a fine video file system, AAC is also just fine. Being a Mac user, I don't have any files that are MKV / AVI.

I have a Mac so a file manager seems like a waste. Bluetooth transfer isn't needed. i have drop box for that. FM Radio? what is this 1991? I don't know what side-loading is but is that without an app store?

I have a 128GB iPhone 6S. why do I need an SD card slot?

I don't even know why I'm arguing the pros and cons of an iOS device on Mac rumors. I thought everyone here had an iPhone. Everyone on Macrumors is an apple fanboy like me, right? I don't use Google for search, I don't own any samsung hardware even appliances and still use an apple keyboard and mouse. I like Apple's things or has PC Master Race infected macrumors as well? If so, I guess I have no place here.
 
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Amazed and shocked by the 86.2% android I wonder if Steve rues the day he allowed the man eric.schmidt on his board the word spy comes to mind.

Anyhow shame about Psion and symbian missing the boat, I loved Psion products esp. Series 3s, hey ho!.
 
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At what point do developers stop making apps for iOS? Wasn't that the issue the Mac had in the 1990's, a smaller and smaller market share, so developers abandon it?

They won't. It's a much more pleasurable experience building an app in iOS.

The money is in iOS, not Android. Have a look at the money coming in to both stores despite the huge disparity.

90% of the Android phones are crappy burners they give away free.
 
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Yes very good. 44 THOUSAND. LOL
Where are these numbers pulled from then?

No. Apple sold (according to this estimate) 44,395.0 THOUSAND units. Meaning multiply 44,395 by 1,000 and you'll get that they sold approximately 44.4 million iPhones in fiscal 2Q2016. You really couldn't have thought they only sold 44,000 phones in a quarter, right?
 
Are you a Mac user that uses a Samsung phone? I'm interested in what that experience is like since you can't sync with iTunes or iCloud.

If you're neither a Mac user or an iOS user, why are you on Mac Rumors?

Everyone I know with an Android phone bought one because of price.
I'm a Mac (Air), iOS (iPad), Android (S5, Tab 8), and MS (too many) user. Why would not syncing with iTunes or iCloud be an issue for someone? If you're all in with Apple ecosystem, you might have a few hiccups moving away. If you're not, I honestly don't see any issues. Cross platform apps are everywhere.
 
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