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Well, Android is difficult to those who can only manage one button on their phone. Hell, even if you have no idea what you are doing, just press the goddamn button! :D

The menu button is key on Android and where you will be able to customize the apps, add widgets, change wallpaper, etc. Its no different than iOS where you have to go into your general settings to change things(you just dont have near as many you can change :D) which is actually fewer steps on Android to get to it. Isnt that hard, you just have to get used to it like any other phone.
Even the search button (on the bottom right on my phone) if you hold that down it brings up a choice of SMS quick compose or voice search. Not everybody who even has an Android knows that.
 
My experience with my friend's Android phones are the biggest reason I won't ever get one. I had my foursquare app getting some $$ off my gas fill up and a free soda (check in special) and my friends wanted to know how I got it. One of them in the car had some Motorola Android phone on them and I went to the market and searched... nothing. I get to our friends house and another persons Android phone doesn't offer it. Someone else had a Droid X and thought he'd show us how we just couldn't find it.... he never got it to work on the other phones but it did work on his. So I'm sitting there thinking how stupid this is. I have an iphone... ANYONE with an iphone can get the same app as me... even the ipod touch sitting on the counter that belonged to the girl with the Android phone. She ended up getting the App on her ipod touch.

I'm in no way interested in that "availability" model or whatever you want to call that. I want things to work. This has been my experience for years and years on OS X and it's that way on iOS. I know it will work and I don't have to do anything except enjoy the product.
 
My experience with my friend's Android phones are the biggest reason I won't ever get one. I had my foursquare app getting some $$ off my gas fill up and a free soda (check in special) and my friends wanted to know how I got it. One of them in the car had some Motorola Android phone on them and I went to the market and searched... nothing. I get to our friends house and another persons Android phone doesn't offer it. Someone else had a Droid X and thought he'd show us how we just couldn't find it.... he never got it to work on the other phones but it did work on his. So I'm sitting there thinking how stupid this is. I have an iphone... ANYONE with an iphone can get the same app as me... even the ipod touch sitting on the counter that belonged to the girl with the Android phone. She ended up getting the App on her ipod touch.

I'm in no way interested in that "availability" model or whatever you want to call that. I want things to work. This has been my experience for years and years on OS X and it's that way on iOS. I know it will work and I don't have to do anything except enjoy the product.

This argument can be used on both platforms. I can brag about how I can run GBA emulator on Android and you can only watch me play. Like one user above said, it depends on what you need for your phone.
 
This argument can be used on both platforms. I can brag about how I can run GBA emulator on Android and you can only watch me play. Like one user above said, it depends on what you need for your phone.

You can run GBA, or even Playstation emulators on full speed on iPhone 4 though...

Lol
 
Except you need to jail break your phone to emulate. I just go to the market.

Yeah but he said the iPhone owner would just "watch you play" when technically he could just whip out his phone and do the same thing. Therefore the allegory doesn't hold up too too well.
 
Im done arguing with you. The point is I can do it on both of my android phones without having to violate my any license agreements or having to go out side of what my phobe is programed to do.
 
bro all I'm saying is that Android OS is sloppy trash and all the apps (the whole point of the device is to run apps) are crappy too. The OS is poorly designed. It has the same aesthetics as an old Palm Treo when you push the screen. Despite the screen quality or the processing power, it just plain feels like an old dull system. Period.

The Samsung Galaxy S Two does NOT change that.

The OS itself is not designed to be as smooth. It feels the way it feels because of design, not lack of power.

For example look at this video of the behavior starting at 45seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDNgD_yxBFY&feature=related

It just gets all retarded for no reason and doesnt respond and when it clicks it feels like a Treo.

Have you ever even owned an Android phone? At least I have a 4th gen ipod so I know what both OS's have to offer but it sounds like you're just talking out of your azz. At least come to the table with some semblance of knowledge and not just rehashed fan boy hearsay.
 
"you have to jailbreak your iphone to run emulators"...

ok, but i have to root my andrkid phone to remove bloatware and install latest os and custom roms to even improve basic finctionality...

yeah android got it all nailed down. so much that one of the most popular roms is miui which is an ios lookalike...

I just ditched an sg2 for iphone 4. hardware wise its the king but software is still the same. they just used super specs to run all same buggy code fragments android js sso you cannot see it. so much for best phone on the market.
 
"you have to jailbreak your iphone to run emulators"...

ok, but i have to root my andrkid phone to remove bloatware and install latest os and custom roms to even improve basic finctionality...

What bloatware was on your Galaxy S II? I was also under the impression that the Galaxy S II came with gingerbread.

I'm lucky enough to have seen both OS's evolve from early builds (iOS since version 2.x and Android since 1.5) and both platforms have grown in functionality and performance immensely.

For me, the ability to modify things like stock functionality like the keyboard (currently using swype at the moment) makes Android the better smartphone os for my needs that ios just can't offer at the moment. You and others may not have such a need so iOS is the best for you.

Which platform is better is always going to be a personal thing. I would guess that both platforms give almost every smartphone user what they need which is why both have knocked the once mighty Symbian and Windows Mobile into a swift downward spiral.

Instead of the constant arguing, smartphone users should really be appreciative of the times we live in. It really is a great time to be a smartphone fan, either side of the spectrum.
 
What bloatware was on your Galaxy S II? I was also under the impression that the Galaxy S II came with gingerbread.

I'm lucky enough to have seen both OS's evolve from early builds (iOS since version 2.x and Android since 1.5) and both platforms have grown in functionality and performance immensely.

For me, the ability to modify things like stock functionality like the keyboard (currently using swype at the moment) makes Android the better smartphone os for my needs that ios just can't offer at the moment. You and others may not have such a need so iOS is the best for you.

Which platform is better is always going to be a personal thing. I would guess that both platforms give almost every smartphone user what they need which is why both have knocked the once mighty Symbian and Windows Mobile into a swift downward spiral.

Instead of the constant arguing, smartphone users should really be appreciative of the times we live in. It really is a great time to be a smartphone fan, either side of the spectrum.

I rooted and then removed allshare (don't use DLNA and i suspect its service kept running and giving me grief for no reason), buddies now, the clock widget (useless to me), the samsung hubs (after using them didn't like them), home screen tips (you don't need to teach me how to swipe/add items to a screen), samsung apps and account stuff, that reader app dont remember the name and some yahoo crap. Oh and most google apps including maps and nav (yep, don't like google crap except gmail).

I agree with your post but I'll give a little info on why android failed to impress me even on a galaxy s 2. It's the same old gingerbread i loaded on my captivate when I had one (even modified it with a tw4 launcher someone developed with widgets and all). It was like getting an i7 rig with windows xp which has been run by a pentium three. Basically samsung just used the brute force method of putting super specs to power the clunky un-optimized OS. They didn't bother to optimized their code for the device. I could see that once I started using it heavily just as my iPhone 4 and it dropped dead halfway during the day. I was like wth...:O.

Now I have a nokia N8 as backup whenever I feel like hoping to an AWS newcomer (wind and mobi here in canada with their cheap plans) or switching between iOS and android as i have done three times already. I know it is surprising but i prefer symbian to android. I went android because drag and drop and big screen for multimedia tempted me. Period. It wasn't customization or google stuff. In fact i am very pissed at google for barging into my OS to grab background info and keep draining my battery. WIth symbian i can do drag and drop and play all sorts of media formats and music etc. I can get email when i want to. Not like once i logged into gmail on android it will keep on bugging me even if i put autosync off. That whole connected to google server thing is not for me.

IMO nokia dropped the ball when they introduced a capacitive multitouch phone aka N8 3 years after iPhone and then went ahead and gave it poor specs. With similar to iPhone 4 specs and a nice browser I don't see how I would have kept my iPhone 4 and not used the N8 so often. It does every thing media wise but blows in browsing and even flash handling which was amazingly not an issue for the E71. I am so disappointed that nokia didn't bother improving their phone specs and symbian or pushed more on meego. That leaves android as the only choice for a not so closed OS which sucks as I don't feel comfortable with google's implementation of it.

So in the end I prefer a jailbroken Ip4. I can drag and drop now courtesy of pwntunes and soon on iOS5 i won't have to setup my phone using iTunes meaning i can say goodbye to iTunes for good. The OS is definitely much more polished and it works no matter what tweaks you do otherwise.

So if anyone is befuddled why i didn't keep the best phone on the market aka gs2, here it is. A lot of Nokias were best phones on the market once. Didn't take it long for people to move on and then never even say anything about them.
 
As far as polish goes, HTC Sense is by far the best UI overlay for android. iOS could only dream of looking this good ...


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I rooted and then removed allshare (don't use DLNA and i suspect its service kept running and giving me grief for no reason), buddies now, the clock widget (useless to me), the samsung hubs (after using them didn't like them), home screen tips (you don't need to teach me how to swipe/add items to a screen), samsung apps and account stuff, that reader app dont remember the name and some yahoo crap. Oh and most google apps including maps and nav (yep, don't like google crap except gmail).

I agree with your post but I'll give a little info on why android failed to impress me even on a galaxy s 2. It's the same old gingerbread i loaded on my captivate when I had one (even modified it with a tw4 launcher someone developed with widgets and all). It was like getting an i7 rig with windows xp which has been run by a pentium three. Basically samsung just used the brute force method of putting super specs to power the clunky un-optimized OS. They didn't bother to optimized their code for the device. I could see that once I started using it heavily just as my iPhone 4 and it dropped dead halfway during the day. I was like wth...:O.

Now I have a nokia N8 as backup whenever I feel like hoping to an AWS newcomer (wind and mobi here in canada with their cheap plans) or switching between iOS and android as i have done three times already. I know it is surprising but i prefer symbian to android. I went android because drag and drop and big screen for multimedia tempted me. Period. It wasn't customization or google stuff. In fact i am very pissed at google for barging into my OS to grab background info and keep draining my battery. WIth symbian i can do drag and drop and play all sorts of media formats and music etc. I can get email when i want to. Not like once i logged into gmail on android it will keep on bugging me even if i put autosync off. That whole connected to google server thing is not for me.

IMO nokia dropped the ball when they introduced a capacitive multitouch phone aka N8 3 years after iPhone and then went ahead and gave it poor specs. With similar to iPhone 4 specs and a nice browser I don't see how I would have kept my iPhone 4 and not used the N8 so often. It does every thing media wise but blows in browsing and even flash handling which was amazingly not an issue for the E71. I am so disappointed that nokia didn't bother improving their phone specs and symbian or pushed more on meego. That leaves android as the only choice for a not so closed OS which sucks as I don't feel comfortable with google's implementation of it.

So in the end I prefer a jailbroken Ip4. I can drag and drop now courtesy of pwntunes and soon on iOS5 i won't have to setup my phone using iTunes meaning i can say goodbye to iTunes for good. The OS is definitely much more polished and it works no matter what tweaks you do otherwise.

So if anyone is befuddled why i didn't keep the best phone on the market aka gs2, here it is. A lot of Nokias were best phones on the market once. Didn't take it long for people to move on and then never even say anything about them.

Concise phrase.
 
My experience with my friend's Android phones are the biggest reason I won't ever get one. I had my foursquare app getting some $$ off my gas fill up and a free soda (check in special) and my friends wanted to know how I got it. One of them in the car had some Motorola Android phone on them and I went to the market and searched... nothing. I get to our friends house and another persons Android phone doesn't offer it. Someone else had a Droid X and thought he'd show us how we just couldn't find it.... he never got it to work on the other phones but it did work on his. So I'm sitting there thinking how stupid this is. I have an iphone... ANYONE with an iphone can get the same app as me... even the ipod touch sitting on the counter that belonged to the girl with the Android phone. She ended up getting the App on her ipod touch.

I'm in no way interested in that "availability" model or whatever you want to call that. I want things to work. This has been my experience for years and years on OS X and it's that way on iOS. I know it will work and I don't have to do anything except enjoy the product.

To be honest that isn't true. If I had an iPhone 1,1 and you had an iPhone3,2 I couldn't run say, Infinity Blade while you could. To be honest that was a pretty big problem (initially) with Apples App Store. It didn't hide apps that you couldn't run. So there were quite a few reviews of folks that bought games without looking at the requirements to only find out that their device wasn't supported. Apps only show up in Android Marketplace if your phone is compatible.
 
You can run GBA, or even Playstation emulators on full speed on iPhone 4 though...

Lol

Please explain how Android doesn't run those in full speed. Did I miss some "yeah we make your phone run slower than it can sucks for you" features?
 
Please explain how Android doesn't run those in full speed. Did I miss some "yeah we make your phone run slower than it can sucks for you" features?

They run on full speed but drain the battery 3x faster than on iOS for some reason. If i was a dev. i probably would have figured it out but oh well.
 
There lies the rub with Android devices right now, why does battery life drain like crazy on Android devices? We are doing almost the same things and running the same apps on iOS but we aren't feeling a lot of drain using iOS. Even with Insomnia and Backgrounder running on a Jailbroken iOS4.3.3, the strain seems to be much less.
 
You can call it catchup or whatever you want. I had a blazing fast Android device and I switched because the SIMPLEST and most USEFUL tasks (sms, email, browsing web) were amazingly crippling and difficult and frustrating.

Like for example, why does tapping a message in a thread in android bring that same exact message up in a new popup? Do you know how impossible it is to scroll to the top of the thread without tapping on one? And once you do, you have to start alllllll over :)

I don't care about CPU and this and that. 99% of us text and make phone calls and google ****. That's what should work first and on android it clearly isn't a priority.
 
Im done arguing with you. The point is I can do it on both of my android phones without having to violate my any license agreements or having to go out side of what my phobe is programed to do.

You have to love the irony of being proud that you don't have to violate any license agreements in order to run software whose primary use is to run games in violation of their license agreements. :D
 
Have you ever even owned an Android phone? At least I have a 4th gen ipod so I know what both OS's have to offer but it sounds like you're just talking out of your azz. At least come to the table with some semblance of knowledge and not just rehashed fan boy hearsay.
Actually, I feel the same way.
 
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