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@boss.king There is no way to convince him that android is not a complete peace of crap. He will always blindly say iOS is better and any other thing is less then it.

Yeah I guess so. I wish people could just be open minded, they might even find something better suited for them.
 
This is why apple needs the jailbreak community because it shows them what to put in the next iOS upgrade. Nothing reallly shocking other than imessage. And I'm glad they took a page out of googles book with the notifications

technically it's a page out of palm's book, they had a notification system on webOS like this first.
 
I highly highly doubt that. Its not programmed to be.

(unless yours is smoother than the videos I've seen)

It actually is in my experience. I've seen my friend's S2 and I had to admit it was pretty impressive in terms of performance, especially moving around the homescreen and he'd already installed all his apps.
 
Oh yeah... I forgot Android had it's own dedicated messaging client. How silly of me to have forgotten.

Neither does iOS yet. Plus, that is copied from BBM, I told a couple of my non-techy friends and their first reaction was "how original."

Ok, it doesn't help when people post contentious threads, but come on people, each phone has their perks, don't slam another OS just because you're an Apple fanboy/Android fan. It is, afterall, just an OS.
 
Neither does iOS yet. Plus, that is copied from BBM, I told a couple of my non-techy friends and their first reaction was "how original."

Ok, it doesn't help when people post contentious threads, but come on people, each phone has their perks, don't slam another OS just because you're an Apple fanboy/Android fan. It is, afterall, just an OS.

To be fair, non-techy people aren't the best to get opinions from for tech-related stuff. That said, you're absolutely right about each phone having it's perks.
 
I have an Android phone, and I used a borrowed iPod Touch some days ago. May take on it? iOS wins, by far.

It's not so much about the OS themselves. OSs in themselves are both great, fast, responsive. Android's lag can be solved via ROMs, just like iOSs restrictions can be solved via JB. What cannot be solved, is apps. And IMO, iOS apps run MILES around Android ones. Most of the fun I have on Android is in the OS, customizing it and all. On the iPod Touch, most of the fun I had was within apps.
 
It's not so much about the OS themselves. OSs in themselves are both great, fast, responsive. Android's lag can be solved via ROMs, just like iOSs restrictions can be solved via JB. What cannot be solved, is apps. And IMO, iOS apps run MILES around Android ones. Most of the fun I have on Android is in the OS, customizing it and all. On the iPod Touch, most of the fun I had was within apps.

Apple seem to have a really good take on this; OS X and iOS are good at letting you get on with what you really need to do, which is generally using some application.

On the desktop side of things, OS X is fairly subtle in features such as colour scheme, screen presence (the Menu Bar is shorter than the Windows Taskbar) and the amount of maintenance required.
Windows on the other hand more and more in recent years seems to want to grab the user's attention as much as possible, with some garish colour schemes, for example (can't stand the default blue one in Vista and 7, and let's not talk about XP's Luna).

The OS should be an enabler and that's all IMO.
 
You watched a 20 minute video and replied, all within 10 minutes? Or you watched the video before and are basing you're post off memory? I chose a comparison video to show you how they are exactly the same in terms of smoothness, and in the apps he showed, the SGS2 outperformed the iPhone in some areas. You're argument is based purely on a feeling you can't quite describe, which isn't really good enough.

Oh it's good enough alright...

Touch sensitivity permeates into every facet of the experience. It's not a feature that you do or don't have or do or don't use, it's something that affects every screen, every app, every interaction.

The world agrees. The iPhone has won another year in a row.

@boss.king There is no way to convince him that android is not a complete peace of crap. He will always blindly say iOS is better and any other thing is less then it.

The only way to CONvince me of something is to say something that is sound reasoning and proper critical thinking.
 
Oh it's good enough alright...

Touch sensitivity permeates into every facet of the experience. It's not a feature that you do or don't have or do or don't use, it's something that affects every screen, every app, every interaction.

The world agrees. The iPhone has won another year in a row.

The only way to CONvince me of something is to say something that is sound reasoning and proper critical thinking.

I actually used evidence and widely trusted reviews. You used personal opinion which doesn't really count for much without at least a little documented evidence. Hopefully you learn to argue you're point better in the future, best of luck...

...and on to the block list with you.
 
I actually used evidence and widely trusted reviews. You used personal opinion which doesn't really count for much without at least a little documented evidence. Hopefully you learn to argue you're point better in the future, best of luck...

...and on to the block list with you.

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait!!....

I'll change.

Just. Don't block me.
 
Wow, this is a pretty crazy topic.

It sounds like there are Android vs iOS discussions that are very valid. It all seems like a choice of choice vs control. Android is all about choice and customization of how you see your information. The desktop screens are really a huge part of the experience on Android and allows you to get information more quickly and with less effort. iOS on the other hand is a very stable user experience that is all about application launching. Both experiences are excellent but for the novice user, iOS is the better choice since it's all about getting things done via applications which is easier for the average Joe to understand.

Is iOS5 trailing in terms of Android developments? Of course it is. With Honeycomb coming out for Android, we have some major advancements in UI technology which puts more bells and whistles on the OS. In addition to the UI, Android also supports the latest technology which iOS doesn't. So is Android ahead of the tech curve? Definitely.

iOS on the other hand is stable and just works. There have been many times while using stock ROMs on Android that are just buggy and have multiple issues. Loading custom ROM packages have been better for Android and there is a decent community for ROM development. iOS on the whole is controlled and stable. The base drivers for iOS work and it's easy to access applications. There's no need to write a custom ROM or to tweak settings for battery life. While the tech on the iPhone may be older, Apple just makes everything work together so you can focus on what matters.
 
I heard that Blackberry, iPhone, Android, and WP7 all use 1's and 0's...blatant copies!!:rolleyes: They should really come up with something original. :D
 
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What people don't realize is that google and apple work together. Apple does not care about how successful android is they are making millions on iOS. Google does care how successful iOS is because they make millions off of both platforms. The only people who argue are generally those who don't own shares in either company. They some how feel that their is a prize in it if the other platform is eliminated.

Enjoy your ********* phone!! And shut up.
 
To Bobby. Have you actually held a SGS2 in your hands and compared to it an iPhone?

If no....Your opinion means as much as a rat.


Ive had both side by side....Android delivers with this phone. Its an all around better OS with this phone and it is very smooth.

Hopefully the next iPhone delivers too.
 
^^ Android doesn't deliver. It might run good on that phone, but SAMSUNG delivered there, not Android.

What? Samsung just made the hardware, not the software. So why doesn't Android deliver?

Thanks for the negative though.
 
Android is the one that needs to catch up. For general use (aka 95%+ of the people out there), Android is absolute garbage. Honeycomb still is lacking and even more confusing to use that before. And Gingerbread doesn't bring that much to the table.

There are many great features in Android, don't get me wrong. But the whole experience as a whole, iOS is just better. There are many high quality applications, both free and paid that only exist on iOS. And the experience is virtually identical from iPod touch to iPhone to iPad. On Android, the user experience is fragmented between different form factors and manufacturers. Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony and LG all have their own unique UI layers.

Android works well for geeks because we understand it better. We know how to get help or find fixes for problems we face. Most people aren't geeks. And that is where Android shows its weakness. When I say Android, people don't understand me. They say I want the Droid or the Galaxy. It's that fragmented. For people that don't want to bother with stability, performance, modifications, customizations and etc. the iPhone is top dog. It's just a pick up and use mindset. Very minimal learning involved. Android is the complete opposite.

In conclusion, each OS has it's weaknesses and strengths. iOS and Android are both good at some things but suck at others. But for the general masses, I suggest iPhone simply because it's got both excellent software and hardware and top notch customer service.
 
Android is the one that needs to catch up. For general use (aka 95%+ of the people out there), Android is absolute garbage. Honeycomb still is lacking and even more confusing to use that before. And Gingerbread doesn't bring that much to the table.

There are many great features in Android, don't get me wrong. But the whole experience as a whole, iOS is just better. There are many high quality applications, both free and paid that only exist on iOS. And the experience is virtually identical from iPod touch to iPhone to iPad. On Android, the user experience is fragmented between different form factors and manufacturers. Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony and LG all have their own unique UI layers.

Android works well for geeks because we understand it better. We know how to get help or find fixes for problems we face. Most people aren't geeks. And that is where Android shows its weakness. When I say Android, people don't understand me. They say I want the Droid or the Galaxy. It's that fragmented. For people that don't want to bother with stability, performance, modifications, customizations and etc. the iPhone is top dog. It's just a pick up and use mindset. Very minimal learning involved. Android is the complete opposite.

In conclusion, each OS has it's weaknesses and strengths. iOS and Android are both good at some things but suck at others. But for the general masses, I suggest iPhone simply because it's got both excellent software and hardware and top notch customer service.

Yeah, its only the reason Apple is now behind :rolleyes:

Pretty funny some are saying Android is too difficult to use...lol. It isnt difficult. It just does a lot more and it is a different platform with a ton of more options to choose from which isnt that hard to use.
 
Android is the one that needs to catch up. For general use (aka 95%+ of the people out there), Android is absolute garbage. Honeycomb still is lacking and even more confusing to use that before. And Gingerbread doesn't bring that much to the table.

There are many great features in Android, don't get me wrong. But the whole experience as a whole, iOS is just better. There are many high quality applications, both free and paid that only exist on iOS. And the experience is virtually identical from iPod touch to iPhone to iPad. On Android, the user experience is fragmented between different form factors and manufacturers. Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony and LG all have their own unique UI layers.

Android works well for geeks because we understand it better. We know how to get help or find fixes for problems we face. Most people aren't geeks. And that is where Android shows its weakness. When I say Android, people don't understand me. They say I want the Droid or the Galaxy. It's that fragmented. For people that don't want to bother with stability, performance, modifications, customizations and etc. the iPhone is top dog. It's just a pick up and use mindset. Very minimal learning involved. Android is the complete opposite.

In conclusion, each OS has it's weaknesses and strengths. iOS and Android are both good at some things but suck at others. But for the general masses, I suggest iPhone simply because it's got both excellent software and hardware and top notch customer service.

Android works for people that like to brag about being able to run Flash and being able to have animated wallpapers. Wow, big deal.
 
Android is the one that needs to catch up. For general use (aka 95%+ of the people out there), Android is absolute garbage. Honeycomb still is lacking and even more confusing to use that before. And Gingerbread doesn't bring that much to the table.

There are many great features in Android, don't get me wrong. But the whole experience as a whole, iOS is just better. There are many high quality applications, both free and paid that only exist on iOS. And the experience is virtually identical from iPod touch to iPhone to iPad. On Android, the user experience is fragmented between different form factors and manufacturers. Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony and LG all have their own unique UI layers.

Android works well for geeks because we understand it better. We know how to get help or find fixes for problems we face. Most people aren't geeks. And that is where Android shows its weakness. When I say Android, people don't understand me. They say I want the Droid or the Galaxy. It's that fragmented. For people that don't want to bother with stability, performance, modifications, customizations and etc. the iPhone is top dog. It's just a pick up and use mindset. Very minimal learning involved. Android is the complete opposite.

In conclusion, each OS has it's weaknesses and strengths. iOS and Android are both good at some things but suck at others. But for the general masses, I suggest iPhone simply because it's got both excellent software and hardware and top notch customer service.


Both OS need work.. Apple is no better.. They are bringing features that have been on older phone for over 2 years. Android is getting alot better with time and I'm sure in the near future they will surpass iOS..


James
 
Android is not iOS. If you go into android trying to use it like it is iOS clone you will find it difficult. Just like any one who goes from android to iOS. I personal hated my ipod touch when I first got it. I found it hard to use and hard to find my favorite programs on it. Android does have a longer learning curve to it. But once you get it then you are set. I have a lot of friends we who are not tech savy who love their phones and know to use them.

Some of you really need to quit stop bashing android and iOS. I find that the people on the android forums are generally more mature then the users on this forum. They do not bash iOS for no reason, they just prefer their phones better because they have real keyboards not because the iPhone sucks.
 
Android is not iOS. If you go into android trying to use it like it is iOS clone you will find it difficult. Just like any one who goes from android to iOS. I personal hated my ipod touch when I first got it. I found it hard to use and hard to find my favorite programs on it. Android does have a longer learning curve to it. But once you get it then you are set. I have a lot of friends we who are not tech savy who love their phones and know to use them.

Some of you really need to quit stop bashing android and iOS. I find that the people on the android forums are generally more mature then the users on this forum. They do not bash iOS for no reason, they just prefer their phones better because they have real keyboards not because the iPhone sucks.

Quoted because you are 100% correct. I have noticed the people in Android forums are very very much mature too.

Once you learn Android, its very simple...same with iPhone.
 
Yeah, its only the reason Apple is now behind :rolleyes:

Pretty funny some are saying Android is too difficult to use...lol. It isnt difficult. It just does a lot more and it is a different platform with a ton of more options to choose from which isnt that hard to use.

Well, Android is difficult to those who can only manage one button on their phone. Hell, even if you have no idea what you are doing, just press the goddamn button! :D
 
I find that the people on the android forums are generally more mature then the users on this forum. They do not bash iOS for no reason, they just prefer their phones better because they have real keyboards not because the iPhone sucks.

What forums do you go to? androidforums.com and xda are pretty tough on iPhone users. I've found it's about equal, there are always people trashing either side without knowing anything.
 
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