this is all bull. can we just forget about it and just wait until APPLE actually tells us stuff. I'm sick of getting my hopes up.
then join a different blog. it's that simple.
this is all bull. can we just forget about it and just wait until APPLE actually tells us stuff. I'm sick of getting my hopes up.
this is all bull. can we just forget about it and just wait until APPLE actually tells us stuff. I'm sick of getting my hopes up.
this is all bull. can we just forget about it and just wait until APPLE actually tells us stuff. I'm sick of getting my hopes up.
Yeah, like I thought, you didn't understand what I was saying. Apple sells a brand new iPhone 3GS alongside its iPhone 4 offerings. What I meant is that Apple will likely keep an iPad around alongside iPad 2 as a low cost offering.
asdf542 said:Yeah, like I thought, you didn't understand what I was saying. Apple sells a brand new iPhone 3GS alongside its iPhone 4 offerings. What I meant is that Apple will likely keep an iPad around alongside iPad 2 as a low cost offering.
This is too funny. I never said that Apple didn't sell the iPhone 3GS along the iPhone 4. I said that Apple has never dropped the price of a product that was going to be released soon. Example: Before the iPhone 4 was released, the 3GS did not receive a price drop.
Again, you provide another irrelevant example. Whether Apple keeps the original iPad in the lineup doesn't matter. The sales will still be affected by it if at the very least the high end models that will be completely replaced. I love how you ignored the rest of my post about the return period. Guess it completely demolished your frivolous argument a little too much.
What about a refresh of the entire computer line?!
Come on!
That's a great point I hadn't even considered. Sales won't dry up in the US, they'll go through the roof with pre-orders.Sales would not be affected because apple can start pre orders the day of the announcement like they usually do.
Sales would not be affected because apple can start pre orders the day of the announcement like they usually do.
And I don't think that you can say when apple will and will not make the announcement. You are no more a reputable source than the ones from the article you claim are false.
That's a great point I hadn't even considered. Sales won't dry up in the US, they'll go through the roof with pre-orders.
It is called MacRumors for a reason.
Again, you provide another irrelevant example. Whether Apple keeps the original iPad in the lineup doesn't matter. The sales will still be affected by it if at the very least the high end models that will be completely replaced. I love how you ignored the rest of my post about the return period. Guess it completely demolished your frivolous argument a little too much.
It's very relevant, and we're not just talking about the US release. What possible reason would Apple have to drop the iPad 2 in the US and not in every other market? Because what would happen is US sales would carry on as they have been, and the rest of the world would dry up overnight. I'm not saying there wouldn't be a delay between announcement and shipping, but the iPad is out there. They update the Macs, the iPhones, the iPods on an international level, why's the iPad different?The international rollout is irrelevant in this conversation, stop bringing it up. We are talking about the US release. Whenever Apple decides to release the iPad 2 in Afghanistan, Portugal, Russia, etc. is not of concern to the discussion at hand.
They did it with the MacBook Pros - they announced they were infinitely better than any Powerbook, then left a few weeks' lead time before they dropped them. Probably plenty of people who got Powerbooks for Christmas that returned them. Apple don't care about that. It's not like they're going to return them and keep the money - they're returning them so they can get another Apple product.A month-long lead time WOULD dry up iPad sales in the US and leave a bunch of people who just got an iPad for Valentines day(which Apple is pushing) still be in the return period. You can keep on playing the international drum but the last day of February is still in the return period for iPad's purchased on Valentine's day. An announcement in February is not happening, and the original source posted on this article is sketchy at best with question marks and guessing written all over the damn article.
Geeklaywer is right you just don't get it. The day Apple announces the ipad2 is the day their manufacturing plants stop producing the first ipad and begin producing the second ipad. It does not matter if the US does not sell out the remaining old stock, other countries will before they sell the new stock. That way all the old stock will be sold, as will all the new stock too. Apple can only produce so many ipads, so so long as they sell everything they produce, they will be happy. That is all that matters. Releasing the new versions to international customers after a delay insures that old stock will be sold so that is relevant. Plus, US sales will not dry up, they will increase since plenty of people will want the new ipad, even people who own the first ipad. Sales, with pre-orders will incrase the day the ipad2 is announced.
You tell me?It's very relevant, and we're not just talking about the US release. What possible reason would Apple have to drop the iPad 2 in the US and not in every other market? Because what would happen is US sales would carry on as they have been, and the rest of the world would dry up overnight. I'm not saying there wouldn't be a delay between announcement and shipping, but the iPad is out there. They update the Macs, the iPhones, the iPods on an international level, why's the iPad different?
LOL, this is by far the dumbest argument I've read in this thread. Sales don't equal pre-orders. April 1st is the start of Q2, having an announcement in February but a release in April is the most asinine thing I've ever read. Their Q1 report will be awful.
Also you don't need a reputable source to make intelligent claims that actually make sense. But what I will give you is the original digitimes article that states an April release:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20101206PD224.html
There's absolutely zero incentive for Apple to put out an announcement in February when people can still return their Valentines day iPad's in that time frame which again, Apple is pushing.
The person I was responding to said that a February announcement release with an April release so do me a favor and read the thread.You build your whole argument around the assumption it will be released in april. Did you consider it could be released two weeks after the annnouncement, somewhere in march?
The international rollout is irrelevant in the US release date we are talking about. Sorry.On a sidenote your armchair financial & marketing analysis is laughable. You talk about potential horrible Q1 (should be Q2 for apple btw) financial results while you dont want to take into account the international rollout that still continues for the original ipad. Way to go.
Finally, less arrogance and a bit more more awareness your argument is built around shaky prepositions as well would suit you damn well.
There was never an argument in relation to stock.![]()
They also weren't putting the PowerBooks up close and center page for their Christmas advertisements.They did it with the MacBook Pros - they announced they were infinitely better than any Powerbook, then left a few weeks' lead time before they dropped them. Probably plenty of people who got Powerbooks for Christmas that returned them. Apple don't care about that. It's not like they're going to return them and keep the money - they're returning them so they can get another Apple product.
But what you don't understand is that Apple doesn't have to announce anything a month in advance and it would be a horrible business decision to do so. If they plan on releasing something in April then why would they announce it a month in advance? There's nothing good that comes out of the sales for the first version and all they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot. They don't need to announce the iPad 2 to finish selling the first iPad, that would be the last thing they would want to do.But my point is that the only sale figures that matter is wether or not they sell 100% of the stock they produce. Beyond that the question is how can they produce more, more quickly. That is, how can they add manufacturing plants. Sure sales matter since they indicate how fast the stock moves, but the sooner they relase the ipad2 the better their overall sales will be. Remember they want ghe ipad2 to hit the market before the competitors do, so that they can mainain their marketshare.
Unless Apple significantly improves iOS, I might be buying a Honeycomb tablet.
But what you don't understand is that Apple doesn't have to announce anything a month in advance and it would be a horrible business decision to do so. If they plan on releasing something in April then why would they announce it a month in advance? There's nothing good that comes out of the sales for the first version and all they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot. They don't need to announce the iPad 2 to finish selling the first iPad, that would be the last thing they would want to do.
i'm sorry but thats not going to happen. they will perhaps start selling a 8GB model if anything. 8GB is just fine for an ipod touch but an ipad needs more.
Your right there is no point to announce that far in advance, but the point is if they announce in febuary, then we will likely see the ipad2 sooner than expected. So what some of us are arguing is that they wouldn't hold back releasing the ipad2 asap because of Valentines day. As soon as its ready it is coming. If they can get it ready before March, if they can have it ready to announce on Feb 14th, then it will be announced that day. Also, a little delay between the announce and the release does give the media time to talk it up and to help boost anticipation.