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HOW IN THE WORLD are macrumors and all these apple fan sites not looking at APPLE'S OWN WEBSITE and putting 2 and 2 together that the ipad 2 WILL NOT be announced until at least march???

this has gotten pretty ridiculous at this point. every day a new article/rumor saying that ipad 2 will be released earlier and earlier and when those times come around and there's nothing to show for it, they just fall back on, "but april falls in line with their yearly refresh APPLE IS FAMOUSLY KNOWN FOR."

O RLY?

here's a new rumor for ya macrumors, THE IPAD 2 IS ALREADY OUT, BUT IT CAME OUT SECRETLY AND ONLY JEDI KNIGHTS KNOW ABOUT IT, HENCE THE DUDE AT THE DAILY ANNOUNCEMENT WEDNESDAY WITH ONE.

here's what we know: the daily gave us 2 free weeks of the "subscription" to its app. so at least 2 weeks from wednesday when the Daily was announced is when we'll have iOS 4.3. it's not rocket science to figure that out, which points to Feb. 16 at the latest. makes sense, yes?

— apple is promoting the ipad 1 on its website for valentine's day, which is a week from monday. now why would any sensible company promote a product, then launch a brand new one days later? yes, i'm sure they'd love to get a ton of people in their stores with long "returns" lines. spectacular rumor there. are you still with me here?

— i'm not going to get really excited about anything ipad 2-related until these websites get their invites for an apple event. UNTIL THEN, everything is just bogus and these sites are probably loving the traffic to their articles of ********. very ethical. there's a line between rumors and just posting anything you hear without any type of checking at all, don't be ignorant.
 
Yeah, like I thought, you didn't understand what I was saying. Apple sells a brand new iPhone 3GS alongside its iPhone 4 offerings. What I meant is that Apple will likely keep an iPad around alongside iPad 2 as a low cost offering.

That would be good for me. If the screen is smaller in v2, I want to opt out for v1.:rolleyes:
 
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Yeah, like I thought, you didn't understand what I was saying. Apple sells a brand new iPhone 3GS alongside its iPhone 4 offerings. What I meant is that Apple will likely keep an iPad around alongside iPad 2 as a low cost offering.

This is too funny. I never said that Apple didn't sell the iPhone 3GS along the iPhone 4. I said that Apple has never dropped the price of a product that was going to be released soon. Example: Before the iPhone 4 was released, the 3GS did not receive a price drop.

Again, you provide another irrelevant example. Whether Apple keeps the original iPad in the lineup doesn't matter. The sales will still be affected by it if at the very least the high end models that will be completely replaced. I love how you ignored the rest of my post about the return period. Guess it completely demolished your frivolous argument a little too much.

Sales would not be affected because apple can start pre orders the day of the announcement like they usually do.

And I don't think that you can say when apple will and will not make the announcement. You are no more a reputable source than the ones from the article you claim are false.
 
Sales would not be affected because apple can start pre orders the day of the announcement like they usually do.

And I don't think that you can say when apple will and will not make the announcement. You are no more a reputable source than the ones from the article you claim are false.

That's a great point I hadn't even considered. Sales won't dry up in the US, they'll go through the roof with pre-orders.

LOL, this is by far the dumbest argument I've read in this thread. Sales don't equal pre-orders. April 1st is the start of Q2, having an announcement in February but a release in April is the most asinine thing I've ever read. Their Q1 report will be awful.

Also you don't need a reputable source to make intelligent claims that actually make sense. But what I will give you is the original digitimes article that states an April release:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20101206PD224.html

There's absolutely zero incentive for Apple to put out an announcement in February when people can still return their Valentines day iPad's in that time frame which again, Apple is pushing.
 
Again, you provide another irrelevant example. Whether Apple keeps the original iPad in the lineup doesn't matter. The sales will still be affected by it if at the very least the high end models that will be completely replaced. I love how you ignored the rest of my post about the return period. Guess it completely demolished your frivolous argument a little too much.

Geeklaywer is right you just don't get it. The day Apple announces the ipad2 is the day their manufacturing plants stop producing the first ipad and begin producing the second ipad. It does not matter if the US does not sell out the remaining old stock, other countries will before they sell the new stock. That way all the old stock will be sold, as will all the new stock too. Apple can only produce so many ipads, so so long as they sell everything they produce, they will be happy. That is all that matters. Releasing the new versions to international customers after a delay insures that old stock will be sold so that is relevant. Plus, US sales will not dry up, they will increase since plenty of people will want the new ipad, even people who own the first ipad. Sales, with pre-orders will incrase the day the ipad2 is announced.
 
I personally don't see Apple pre-announcing iPad 2 before it's ready to ship, which I believe won't be until sometime in April at the earliest. Only reason they announced so early last year was because it was a new product. They may pre-announce iOS 5 features, but not the hardware. Pre-announcing it would eat into the sales of the existing hardware. Sure, techies know that new hardware is coming, but not the general public. It would be stupid of Apple to halt the sales of a popular product by announcing the next generation.
 
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I think your giving the public too much credit. I work for a large retailer that sells apple products among other high profile things and I could stand in front if them and tell them there device has a new version weeks away and an alarming percentage would still buy it if they were ready to get one that day. I know because one I've done it and my company has tracked sales after announcements and there isn't as big of a drop as you might think. The only thing that really stunts sales is lack of stock.
 
The international rollout is irrelevant in this conversation, stop bringing it up. We are talking about the US release. Whenever Apple decides to release the iPad 2 in Afghanistan, Portugal, Russia, etc. is not of concern to the discussion at hand.
It's very relevant, and we're not just talking about the US release. What possible reason would Apple have to drop the iPad 2 in the US and not in every other market? Because what would happen is US sales would carry on as they have been, and the rest of the world would dry up overnight. I'm not saying there wouldn't be a delay between announcement and shipping, but the iPad is out there. They update the Macs, the iPhones, the iPods on an international level, why's the iPad different?

A month-long lead time WOULD dry up iPad sales in the US and leave a bunch of people who just got an iPad for Valentines day(which Apple is pushing) still be in the return period. You can keep on playing the international drum but the last day of February is still in the return period for iPad's purchased on Valentine's day. An announcement in February is not happening, and the original source posted on this article is sketchy at best with question marks and guessing written all over the damn article.
They did it with the MacBook Pros - they announced they were infinitely better than any Powerbook, then left a few weeks' lead time before they dropped them. Probably plenty of people who got Powerbooks for Christmas that returned them. Apple don't care about that. It's not like they're going to return them and keep the money - they're returning them so they can get another Apple product.
 
Geeklaywer is right you just don't get it. The day Apple announces the ipad2 is the day their manufacturing plants stop producing the first ipad and begin producing the second ipad. It does not matter if the US does not sell out the remaining old stock, other countries will before they sell the new stock. That way all the old stock will be sold, as will all the new stock too. Apple can only produce so many ipads, so so long as they sell everything they produce, they will be happy. That is all that matters. Releasing the new versions to international customers after a delay insures that old stock will be sold so that is relevant. Plus, US sales will not dry up, they will increase since plenty of people will want the new ipad, even people who own the first ipad. Sales, with pre-orders will incrase the day the ipad2 is announced.

There was never an argument in relation to stock. :rolleyes:

If Apple wants to stop producing the original iPad they don't need to announce the iPad 2 in February, a month before the plan on releasing it that could've been much better sales for that month. They also wouldn't have a flock of people returning Valentines day gifts but I guess that's something that everyone seems to be ignoring here just for the benefit of their own argument.

It's very relevant, and we're not just talking about the US release. What possible reason would Apple have to drop the iPad 2 in the US and not in every other market? Because what would happen is US sales would carry on as they have been, and the rest of the world would dry up overnight. I'm not saying there wouldn't be a delay between announcement and shipping, but the iPad is out there. They update the Macs, the iPhones, the iPods on an international level, why's the iPad different?
You tell me? :rolleyes:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1086809/
 
LOL, this is by far the dumbest argument I've read in this thread. Sales don't equal pre-orders. April 1st is the start of Q2, having an announcement in February but a release in April is the most asinine thing I've ever read. Their Q1 report will be awful.

Also you don't need a reputable source to make intelligent claims that actually make sense. But what I will give you is the original digitimes article that states an April release:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20101206PD224.html

There's absolutely zero incentive for Apple to put out an announcement in February when people can still return their Valentines day iPad's in that time frame which again, Apple is pushing.

You build your whole argument around the assumption it will be released in april. Did you consider it could be released two weeks after the annnouncement, somewhere in march?

On a sidenote your armchair financial & marketing analysis is laughable. You talk about potential horrible Q1 (should be Q2 for apple btw) financial results while you dont want to take into account the international rollout that still continues for the original ipad. Way to go.

Finally, less arrogance and a bit more more awareness your argument is built around shaky assumptions as well would suit you damn well.
 
You build your whole argument around the assumption it will be released in april. Did you consider it could be released two weeks after the annnouncement, somewhere in march?
The person I was responding to said that a February announcement release with an April release so do me a favor and read the thread.

On a sidenote your armchair financial & marketing analysis is laughable. You talk about potential horrible Q1 (should be Q2 for apple btw) financial results while you dont want to take into account the international rollout that still continues for the original ipad. Way to go.
The international rollout is irrelevant in the US release date we are talking about. Sorry. :rolleyes:

Finally, less arrogance and a bit more more awareness your argument is built around shaky prepositions as well would suit you damn well.

LOL, I build my entire argument around assumptions? Look at the original source posted on this article buddy:
http://translate.google.com/transla...g/index.php?ID=11368&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

Not only is it some random Japanese blog but it has a question mark in its headline. Just look at the rest of the content on the site to get an even bigger laugh. You want to talk about a laughable response look no further than the quote above this.
 
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There was never an argument in relation to stock. :rolleyes:

But my point is that the only sale figures that matter is wether or not they sell 100% of the stock they produce. Beyond that the question is how can they produce more, more quickly. That is, how can they add manufacturing plants. Sure sales matter since they indicate how fast the stock moves, but the sooner they relase the ipad2 the better their overall sales will be. Remember they want ghe ipad2 to hit the market before the competitors do, so that they can mainain their marketshare.
 
They did it with the MacBook Pros - they announced they were infinitely better than any Powerbook, then left a few weeks' lead time before they dropped them. Probably plenty of people who got Powerbooks for Christmas that returned them. Apple don't care about that. It's not like they're going to return them and keep the money - they're returning them so they can get another Apple product.
They also weren't putting the PowerBooks up close and center page for their Christmas advertisements. :rolleyes:

That was also during a very major switch in the product line from PowerPC to Intel that hasn't happened since. Powerbook sales were also piss poor at the time.

But my point is that the only sale figures that matter is wether or not they sell 100% of the stock they produce. Beyond that the question is how can they produce more, more quickly. That is, how can they add manufacturing plants. Sure sales matter since they indicate how fast the stock moves, but the sooner they relase the ipad2 the better their overall sales will be. Remember they want ghe ipad2 to hit the market before the competitors do, so that they can mainain their marketshare.
But what you don't understand is that Apple doesn't have to announce anything a month in advance and it would be a horrible business decision to do so. If they plan on releasing something in April then why would they announce it a month in advance? There's nothing good that comes out of the sales for the first version and all they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot. They don't need to announce the iPad 2 to finish selling the first iPad, that would be the last thing they would want to do.
 
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I think Apple will not wait until May to release iPad 2... Apple will release iOS 5 and ship it in summer togeter with iPhone 5...

iPad 2G will come in mid feb. like 17...
 
My guess is early March announcement with April release. But, whenever it releases, my current will find a home on eBay and I will get the new one. The "when" rumors are less exciting to me than the "what" rumors, as in hardware enhancements.
 
Unless Apple significantly improves iOS, I might be buying a Honeycomb tablet.

Why? Because you heard it has widgets that you will never use? After watching the demos, I am not at all impressed with the honeycomb ui. Looks like a mess that needs a lot of work.
 
But what you don't understand is that Apple doesn't have to announce anything a month in advance and it would be a horrible business decision to do so. If they plan on releasing something in April then why would they announce it a month in advance? There's nothing good that comes out of the sales for the first version and all they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot. They don't need to announce the iPad 2 to finish selling the first iPad, that would be the last thing they would want to do.

Your right there is no point to announce that far in advance, but the point is if they announce in febuary, then we will likely see the ipad2 sooner than expected. So what some of us are arguing is that they wouldn't hold back releasing the ipad2 asap because of Valentines day. As soon as its ready it is coming. If they can get it ready before March, if they can have it ready to announce on Feb 14th, then it will be announced that day. Also, a little delay between the announce and the release does give the media time to talk it up and to help boost anticipation.
 
i'm sorry but thats not going to happen. they will perhaps start selling a 8GB model if anything. 8GB is just fine for an ipod touch but an ipad needs more.

Or did you not think that the ipad 2 will have 32G 64G and 128G? i mean it has been two years since they bumped the iphone and they will bump it this year most likely, and with that the touch and ipad will get bumps in their new gens too.
 
Your right there is no point to announce that far in advance, but the point is if they announce in febuary, then we will likely see the ipad2 sooner than expected. So what some of us are arguing is that they wouldn't hold back releasing the ipad2 asap because of Valentines day. As soon as its ready it is coming. If they can get it ready before March, if they can have it ready to announce on Feb 14th, then it will be announced that day. Also, a little delay between the announce and the release does give the media time to talk it up and to help boost anticipation.

The original person I was replying to was suggesting a February announcement with an April release.

A February announcement in general is already a bad idea after they are pushing for holiday sales(which are important), let alone a February announcement with an April release.
 
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