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It's shameful that the article mentions that nets were installed to catch any would be jumpers AND that some employees had to sign contracts stating they wouldn't kill themselves.

Sounds like a fantastic place to work at.

Actually, I think this was invented by Jerry Pournelle (Oath of Fealty). In a slightly different form: On top of a high building that was used for suicides, they installed a diving board as you would find at a swimming pool, plus hidden nets that would catch a jumper. Great idea. Think about it: You're ready to kill yourself, you get on the top of the roof, and you see what can only be called the ultimate piss taking. Your emotions will immediately change from wanting to kill yourself to wanting to kill whoever put that jumping board there. Which is _exactly_ the intended effect.

But again: 36,000 suicides in the USA in 2008. And nobody putting nets anywhere. I don't know if Foxconn is a good place to work, but it's sure a better place than most if you are suicidal. And these nets that you think are so horrible cut the suicide rate down from one quarter of the US rate to even less, so it worked. And concerning the contracts: _Your_ life insurance won't pay if you kill yourself. Guess why.


Apple's shame:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2085005/300-Foxcon-staff-Xbox-360-plant-China-threaten-mass-suicide-pay.html


Steve Jobs and Tim Cook should be ashamed.

Guantanamo Bay would be a more desirable existance.

Please explain why anybody at Apple should be ashamed about this? If you had blamed Microsoft, you might have a tiny little bit of a point, but not much really. If you blamed Foxconn, maybe. But the reality is that people at Foxconn are aware of bleeding hearts like yours, so what do they do in an industrial dispute? Run up on a roof and threaten suicide. Nothing would have happened.
 
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One of these precious shiny little toys will be reserved for me as soon as they announce them :D

Really, they are utterly unnecessary toys for someone with one desktop Mac, two portable Macs and an iPhone, but - what is a tech and design lover's money better spent on?

If you include these in your signature, you wouldn't have to make this point. We get it.
 
Ok, so we know it's going to be thicker. The question being is the increase in thickness due to a larger capacity battery or a Retina screen, both, or simply to power a faster higher clocked processor?

At the moment, some sites seem to be saying the increase in thickness is due to the Retina screen, while others say it's just because of a larger capacity battery (no Retina screen).

Going thicker is so NOT Apple, so the question is, why? Apple wouldn't bother increasing battery life (purely as a selling point) if it meant a thicker iPad. So this makes me think it'll have a Retina display but also a bigger battery to compensate for it (reason for thickness increase), a net result of the same current battery life, or at least slightly more.

If it's the 'iPad 2S' and only has speed bumps (& better cameras), with the reason for the bigger battery is say, to power a higher clocked processor, i'm going to be sad.

My realistic bet is:
-iPad 2S
-Faster (1.?GHz Dual-Core / Quad-Core)
-Bigger battery
(although this won't be boasted about as it's purely to compensate for the new power-hungry processor)
-No Retina screen
(this will be the future iPad 3 main selling point, as it's overkill for an 'S' model upgrade)
-HD front camera, 5/8MP rear.

I waaaaant to knooooow :confused:

The next release may well be as you describe. However, I know an LTE iPad is in test with a certain carrier. Given past experience, the timing of these tests leads me to believe that Spring '12 release will include LTE though I won't fall over in shock if the LTE version is later this year.
 
No, we don't know anything. We've only heard random rumor and conjecture, some based on reason, some not so much. But it's all just a guess at this point.

Yea ok so we don't KNOW this, but it's pretty obvious it's highly likely, the amount of info lately reporting this.
 
Do you really "laugh out loud" about a suicide? Wow. Parties at your place must be full of Larry David style moments.

Maybe he didn't realize that the punishments in China for these types of "crimes" usually end with life imprisonment or death anyway. /s
 
I hope so. I've been holding off since the first iPad to get the third version.

I think it's funny how someone down ranked you. I completely agree with you, that goes without saying that the iPad 1 & 2 have both been brilliant devices (2 in my home, I don't own one) but they simply didn't have exactly one I wanted to merit a purchase.

I have waited as well for the 3rd generation and here is one example of why. iPad 1 had no camera. iPad 2 did, but disappointed with the quality. 3rd time the charm?

While it is not the only reason, it is extremely important to me. I'm excited to see what Apple has in store.
 
I think it's funny how someone down ranked you. I completely agree with you, that goes without saying that the iPad 1 & 2 have both been brilliant devices (2 in my home, I don't own one) but they simply didn't have exactly one I wanted to merit a purchase.

I have waited as well for the 3rd generation and here is one example of why. iPad 1 had no camera. iPad 2 did, but disappointed with the quality. 3rd time the charm?

While it is not the only reason, it is extremely important to me. I'm excited to see what Apple has in store.

An educated consumer realized that adding a few more shares of AAPL at the time than what the iPad was and is currently. Had people had the foresight to see that this was yet another way for consumers to spend money in the Apple ecosystem, they would have realized that for the amount of time and money spent trying to acquire one of these devices, they could have bough shares at a bargain price and resold right after the iPad 3 announcement and had enough money from their initial investment to buy at least 4 iPads and still have money left over. My Viewsonic Android tablet has more than been what I needed it to be over the past few years.
 
I will interpret the previous 80 some odd posts.

I have no real knowledegable idea what the iPad 3 will be and i know very little about the geo-political conditions in China but I will probably buy the iPad 3.
 
Truly sad. I upvoted that when I first saw it because it made me giggle. :p

It is really ridiculous! So many people on here are clueless and down rank for saying things like, "time to sell iPad 2 on eBay" or "I've waited for the 3rd generation to purchase."

It's getting old..

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Uh, you may want to include yourself in that category.

? If you were talking about the accidental down rank then yes, I am at fault lol..

I changed it immediately after though.. My fingers are just so nervous today, making clumsy mistakes.. :D
 
Yea ok so we don't KNOW this, but it's pretty obvious it's highly likely, the amount of info lately reporting this.

# of reports does not = accurate reporting. (See iPhone 5 details last Aug/Sep for more information on how that works out).
 
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Yea ok so we don't KNOW this, but it's pretty obvious it's highly likely, the amount of info lately reporting this.

# of reports does not = accurate reporting. (See iPhone 5 details last Aug/Sep for more information on how that works out).

I know reports piggyback on one another, but there's been a few separate ones recently, even a reported hands on. It's not that unbelievable and it's only ~1mm anyway. It makes sense, to house the beefed up internals. Your skepticism is understandable, but just remember this when you're watching the keynote in March. (Well, not that they'll willingly show it's thicker)
 
"with Foxconn bearing 85%"

...and also 85 percent of the suicides :( Remember that while we all love our gadgets, there is a human cost in getting them to us.

They have almost 1,000,000 employees. Yes, the number is quite high, but there are more employees at Foxconn than there are residents in Jacksonville Florida.

Las Vegas has a suicide rate of .0345%, thats 34.5 per 100,000 residents.

The Foxconn equivalent would be roughly 300 suicides a year.

Factual arguments say much more than random generalized statements.
 
When will you guys ever understand a sarcasm? Threw the bait and 17 of you bit, wow..
In Internet discussion forums, it's best that you use the smilies when they are available.

Sarcasm is often poorly communicated in written word, especially in a gathering where there are plenty of non-native speakers. Many cultures actually use sarcasm far less than English speaking countries.

While your profile indicates that your location is LA, one cannot assume anything from that. There are plenty of American residents who did not speak English as their primary language growing up.

Smilies exist to make up for some of those visual or verbal nuances that are lost in the written word.

In many/most instances in this forum (and others), there will always be a certain amount of people who don't get sarcasm, either due to their command of the English language and/or your lack of effectively communicating it by ignoring aids that are meant to alleviate such confusion.

Have a nice day.

:) :p :D
 
In Internet discussion forums, it's best that you use the smilies when they are available.

Sarcasm is often poorly communicated in written word, especially in a gathering where there are plenty of non-native speakers. Many cultures actually use sarcasm far less than English speaking countries.

While your profile indicates that your location is LA, one cannot assume anything from that. There are plenty of American residents who did not speak English as their primary language growing up.

Smilies exist to make up for some of those visual or verbal nuances that are lost in the written word.

In many/most instances in this forum (and others), there will always be a certain amount of people who don't get sarcasm, either due to their command of the English language and/or your lack of effectively communicating it by ignoring aids that are meant to alleviate such confusion.

Have a nice day.

:) :p :D

Fair enough, but even when you use emoticons, I rarely have people catch on to sarcasm.

It is either a language barrier, lack of intelligence or simply ignorance.
The language barrier I can understand, the latter two will never quite make sense to me.

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Based on a rumor, that you read on a not exactly reliable rumor site? :rolleyes:

Okay, sure, if the poster was being serious about posting his iPad 2 today on eBay, I would say he is way out of line.

I believe it was more of a figure speech saying that he must prepare for the inevitable yearly release Apple continues to roll out. But if I am in wrong about his wording of figure of speech then I stand corrected.

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PS - Love the downranking discussing the problems with downranking. It only adds more truth to my pressing case.
 
If the iPad 3 has:
  • Retina display
  • ≥ iPad 2 battery life
  • ≥ iPad 2 performance
  • ≤ iPad 2 thickness

Apple can have my credit card information now. Original iPad 3G 64GB goes to brother or mom as a birthday present.
 
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