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It's cute that apple thinks setting up in store pick up means you don't have wait in line. The only thing in store pick up does is guarantee you a product.

Actually, it allows people to pick it up anytime. If it wasn't there, everybody would go as early as possible, in other words, all at the same time. So yeah, in store pick up might reduce the wait
 
Education still buys the iPad 2. Do you know why? Because some school districts require a minimum screen size of 9.5 inches to administer tests, or so I've heard. This gives them a more affordable option when their only choice is a full-size iPad.

Besides, I've been using an iPad Mini as my daily device for the past year, which uses the exact same internals. I wouldn't exactly call it a "dog." Would it have been great if Apple made the iPad 4 $399 instead? Sure. But to act like its completely worthless from only your own point of view is incredibly narrow minded.
Very good point. I have an iPad2 (I won it in a contest while waiting patiently for a retina iPad to come out, spoiled as I was on my iPhone 4's retina screen at the time), but I wouldn't buy one now. On the other hand, if I were buying twenty iPads, I'd sure consider the iPad2.

It's a fine device. The only thing I find annoying about it is the lack of a retina display, but I still use it constantly and I have no plans to buy a new one until this one craps out.
 
Now that there's hardware parity between them, I'd like to try both the Air and the Mini in person before making a decision. But if I wait to do that I probably won't be able to get the Mini until January :(
 
I don't think personal pickup is available in the UK - so we have to queue :)

The iPad Air itself is obviously available!

( Edit - personal pickup is ordering online for inshore pickup. )

Apple knows you people in the UK love to queue.

Can't wait for Friday now -- hope to be able to walk in and get one, unlike waiting in like for nearly 3 hours for my 5S outside of the store because there wasn't enough employees helping process the 5S line. (This was on the Monday after launch, from 6PM to 9PM)
 
Time difference...

12:01 AM on November 1 is 9:01 PM on October 31 here in Hawaii, so getting this for my girlfriend might cut into my trick-or-treating time.
 
The name annoys me. They took an iPad and made it lighter, thinner and faster, which they should do every couple years to begin with.

Unless they called it air, because they are planning to bring out another one that is not so light and thin. There are rumors of a 12 inch iPad coming. So having the mini and the air, allows for another iPad to come out with it own branding like the iPad Pro.

I have no insight, but it is plausible.
 
Besides, I've been using an iPad Mini as my daily device for the past year, which uses the exact same internals. I wouldn't exactly call it a "dog." Would it have been great if Apple made the iPad 4 $399 instead? Sure. But to act like its completely worthless from only your own point of view is incredibly narrow minded.

With the greatest of respect, I'd say it's incredibly narrow minded that you accept Apple's ridiculous pricing with this. Educational institutes want iPad 2s to save cash and buy in bulk? Apple can keep it in the education store, and offer that option -- as they do with lower-end iMacs, and as they did with the white MacBook when that was discontinued. But there's absolutely no reason the iPad 4 shouldn't have been where the iPad 2 is right now, available to consumers. It's nothing short of greed.

I'm just gobsmacked everybody is so happy to get ripped off. Storage is ridiculously low. Pricing is ridiculously high.
 
That is a very cool idea. Unless they could come up with a serious of lightweight cats.

The iPad Siamese will be cantankerous and complain a lot.

The iPad Abyssinian will be in your face all the time, and you won't be able to get it to stay off the kitchen counter.

The iPad Maine Coon will be much larger and heavier, and you'll have to groom it daily.

The iPad Manx won't have a charging cable.

The iPad Persian will be perpetually grumpy.

The iPad Tabby will come in lots of colors, but it will velcro itself to your sofa.
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much the "New" Ipad (3) weighs? That's what I have, and I may consider selling it and getting an Air if there is a significant weight difference.
 
Apple is shafting consumers and piggybacking on their history as a quality company. Some of Apple's recent pricing when it comes to storage or specs is simply disgraceful, with both their computer lines and their iOS devices.

You used to be able to buy the bottom line, and that was good enough, because you're paying through the nose anyway. Now when you buy the bottom line, you're near enough forced into upgrading to the next model. I'm simply amazed that everybody's so unsympathetic to this fact.

Methinks you haven't been following Apple for very long. Since when was the bottom line Macs ever "good enough?" Nothing has changed in this regard, going all the way back to the 1998 base model iMac.

Pricing on Apples products are far more aggressive than they were in the past. A Macbook with built-SSD storage starts at 999 today. That is remarkable when you think about the kinds of prices Apple used to charge. A 64gb SSD add-on for the MBA when it debuted was ridiculously expensive (not to mention the Air itself was also ridiculously expensive). Now its standard with double the capacity on their most affordable notebook. Think about the rMBP. They have a ultra high-res display standard on MBP that costs 1299. Do you remember how expensive the base MBP used to cost? Do you remember how much the black Macbook used to cost? They now have a pro grade product that is priced below what their high-end consumer notebook used to cost.
 
If this is the case, I would potentially be able to order online at midnight PST and pick up around 6:30 PM after work, correct?
 
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how much the "New" Ipad (3) weighs? That's what I have, and I may consider selling it and getting an Air if there is a significant weight difference.

1.4 lbs

Air is 1 lb. Its 1/3 lighter. The current Mini is .75 lb, its closer in weight to the Mini. So yea, a significant weight difference.
 
Of course your complaint doesn't happen at all.

Is Apple going to offer us the incredible iPhone 4s RAM at 512 MB like the iPad mini?
I don't know what to do with such a huge amount of memory. It reminds me of those amazing Pentium III systems.
Then you can open up one or two web pages whilst enjoying the usual reloading and re-opening of background apps, because Apple doesn't like to provide enough RAM because of ya, know... some tiny profit.
 
I'm sure there's shedloads of people me included that don't care a monkeys
about TouchID. Definitely on a phone but not an iPad.

The iPad Air is worth it for the size and weight alone. Added speed is expected but also a plus. it's a no brainer for me. Touch ID would be nice but nowhere near a determining factor. My guess is Apple has their hands full supplying Touch ID on iPhones.

Touch ID is far from a gimmick though.
 
Agree with you 100% [on waiting for TouchID].

Prepare to wait a long time and be disappointed if your wish ever comes true.

Meanwhile the rest of us have no real idea why you're all so crestfallen that TouchID is not a feature.
 
Methinks you haven't been following Apple for very long. Since when was the bottom line Macs ever "good enough?" Nothing has changed in this regard, going all the way back to the 1998 base model iMac.

Pricing on Apples products are far more aggressive than they were in the past. A Macbook with built-SSD storage starts at 999 today. That is remarkable when you think about the kinds of prices Apple used to charge. A 64gb SSD add-on for the MBA when it debuted was ridiculously expensive (not to mention the Air itself was also ridiculously expensive). Now its standard with double the capacity on their most affordable notebook. Think about the rMBP. They have a ultra high-res display standard on MBP that costs 1299. Do you remember how expensive the base MBP used to cost? Do you remember how much the black Macbook used to cost? They now have a pro grade product that is priced below what their high-end consumer notebook used to cost.

I do agree with you, but I fear you've missed the point I'm trying to make. Apple almost always drop their prices from iteration to iteration. Historically, that's what I've seen. Look at the MacBook Air/Pro prices, as you said. Even the iMac prices have gone down over time.

But now, the iMac has increased in price. The MacBook Pro has increased in price. I just don't get it. :(
 
(OLD OLD) New iPad, the (OLD) New iPad, the iPad Air. Honestly I think the market is saturated with 'New' iPads right now. Apple has kind of lost their way with a fragmented line of iPads. C'mon retire the iPad 2!

You can't be that obtuse. "New iPad" was never the name.
 
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