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iPad Headed to AT&T and Verizon Retail Stores on October 28th

eBalut said:
Wow, I got all excited when I saw Verizon in the tag line. Now not so much since they will only give you 1GB for $20. Just another reason to stick with ATT. At least this is a step in the right direction.
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Thank you for saying what I thought as soon as I saw the price. That's a LOT of money for so little data. If an iPhone does come to Verizon, the data prices are not going to be attractive. They will be right in lockstep with all of their current data offers which are too expensive compared to AT&T.

And is it just me or are others having problems connecting to the Verizon Wireless site since this announcement this morning? Flooding their servers. haha.
 
To me...this doesn't mean the iPhone will be coming to Verizon; rather, this is a quick and dirty way to preempt any potential future competitors to the iPad....by placing them in both Verizon & ATT stores, that neutralizes any impulsive pad purchases that could go to a competitor...rather, a customer can compare an iPad to something different.

Plus, getting floor space is so critical....Apple now has the iPad in a variety of retail locations...floor space that could have gone to a competitor....
 
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Plans start at $20 1GB
Then there's the other two plans $35 3GB and $50 5GB

So.. Verizon has the better data plans..
 
jav6454 said:
They could all well be right on the iDevice headed to Verizon, they just let their emotions for the iPhone guide them.

All in all, Verizons iPad solution is terrible.
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I kinda feel as if they are trying to prove a point to apple.

"hey, watch this, we will sell this iPad with a crazy expensive data plan and people will pay it because we have 3G everywhere...watch the masses flock to us." once you see how we can sell an iPad, you will have to let us carry the iPhone.

I mean seriously, what else could it be? That data plan is bogus!
 
jav6454 said:
All in all, Verizons iPad solution is terrible.
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Or... Apple's solution for a Verizon iPad is so-so.

If you're in a Verizon store and your choice is between a Samsung Galaxy Tab with WiFi+3G, a RIM Playbook with WiFi + BB 3G tether, or an Apple iPad with WiFi and a separate MiFi.... well, hmm.

Still, I would tend to agree with those who say that Apple is trying to stunt other tablet sales, and is pulling out all stops to do so, including selling via Verizon.
 
WildCowboy said:
Yours was the seventh submission we received about the story, and I was already working on the article before the first one came in, as we'd spotted it in Apple's press releases.

You didn't really think I wrote our article in the two minutes between the time you submitted the story and we published on it, did you? ;)
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Ah...hah!!! WildCowboy = :apple: macrumors bot!

I knew it, I knew it

oh wait, isn't macrumors bot = Ken? :p
 
I personally don't see how the price points are any worse than AT&T. In fact if you break it down they're better.

AT&T:
250MB = $14.99 = $60 per gig.
2GB = $25 = $12.50 per gig

VZW:
1GB = $20. = $20 per gig
3GB = $35. = $11.66 per gig
5GB = $50. = $10 per gig.

Advantages:
Mifi device will also bring data to a laptop, iPod, or any other device.

Like AT&T it's on a month-to-month basis, so don't use it when you don't need it or if you're going to travel then buy a data package.

Overages are reasonable on the $35 and $50 package at $10 per GB. On AT&T you must "rebuy" the entire package if you go over.

Verizon has a lot more 3G coverage than AT&T. No, EDGE is nowhere near as fast as Verizon's 3G. They are not the same.

Disadvantages:

An extra device to keep track of, charge, etc
If you only use very little data you'll pay $5 extra per month.
 
Mike Oxard said:
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Wow, for once it seems the UK gets chance of a better deal. Three network charge £15(~$25) for 10GB.
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For now... ;-)
 
kdarling said:
Or... Apple's solution for a Verizon iPad is so-so.

If you're in a Verizon store and your choice is between a Samsung Galaxy Tab with WiFi+3G, a RIM Playbook with WiFi + BB 3G tether, or an Apple iPad with WiFi and a separate MiFi.... well, hmm.

Still, I would tend to agree with those who say that Apple is trying to stunt other tablet sales, and is pulling out all stops to do so, including selling via Verizon.
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That maybe a scenario once those products mentioned do come out. As off now, they are mere paper specs.

Also, you assume that the bulk CDMA chip production is for the iPhone when it could well not be the case. Instead it's for the January iPad refresh production.
 
I don't believe Verizon would agree to this unless there's something bigger for them later down the road. I can't imagine an iPad sale bringing enough profit per one unit sold to give up precious shelf space and spend lots of money training reps, printing sales info, advertisements, etc. Verizon isn't in the electronics sales business, that's Best Buy's job. Verizon is in the network business.

The iPad isn't as deep as the partnership between Apple and Verizon will go.
 
thetexan said:
Verizon has a lot more 3G coverage than AT&T. No, EDGE is nowhere near as fast as Verizon's 3G.
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I thought AT&T's 3G is a LOT faster than Verizon's 3G and many of Verizon's data speed markets are comparable to AT&T's EDGE. Hence the reason AT&T ran those commercials showing coverage at just about as many places. I do agree that Verizon has a larger overall coverage area.

I could be wrong but that's the way I understood it.
 
Coleco said:
What would stop someone from using MiFi to ALSO share the signal with an iPod Touch and combine with Line2 (or Google Phone, perhaps) to make this a $20 a month iPhone? I think I could live with 1GB a month considering how many places offer WiFi.
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Verizon here is on the same field as Wal-Mart, Target and other retailers. They are selling an iPad as a packaged unit with no contract. In addition to that they are selling a "MiFi", which has a competitive advantage over any existing Apple or AT&T products in that you can share an internet connection without tethering in a blessed and approved way with I believe up to 5 users.

AT&T has no competitive offering.

One commercial shows a van full of commuters with smartphones all interacting as they roll down the road.

This is a valid way for rural folks to go beyond dial-up or satellite to get higher bandwidth, lower latency internet. For many, online games will become immediately practical for the first time.

Simply being able to connect to the internet via wifi to a connection that is somewhat real and fast internet will drive a lot of sales. The iPad and iPod Touch are simply better windows into that world than other handsets.

Rocketman

Apple: enable wifi sharing as an option on ALL of your wifi enabled products that have internet access.
 
Butthead said:
Ah...hah!!! WildCowboy = :apple: macrumors bot!

I knew it, I knew it

oh wait, isn't macrumors bot = Ken? :p
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Well, the bot is actually a bot whose job is to post the articles written by me and others. But ya...I guess you could say it's me but not me. Of course, it's someone else when they write an article.

And Ken? :confused: Do you mean arn? :)
 
Verizon is the only provider I have never used. While the data plans are rather lame, I do think this is great news for Apple. They've obviously done something BCD and maybe this is what Verizon meant when they said they had to "earn" the mythical Verizon iPhone.

However I still have no plans to ever buy an iPad or switch from AT&T.
 
reckless2k2 said:
I thought AT&T's 3G is a LOT faster than Verizon's 3G and many of Verizon's data speed markets are comparable to AT&T's EDGE. Hence the reason AT&T ran those commercials showing coverage at just about as many places. I do agree that Verizon has a larger overall coverage area.

I could be wrong but that's the way I understood it.
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Verizon's 3G can be as slow as AT&Ts EDGE if at Rev0. The main markets that people see are at RevA. But the open places are Rev0. So yes, speeds can be comparable but only Verizon can call theirs 3G coverage.

As speeds go, AT&T's tech is much more faster than Verizon's.

I'm on my iPhone. So a much detailed explanation will have to wait.
 
BC2009 said:
.... I personally, have no plans of switching off AT&T should a Verizon iPhone become available, but having that option would sure be nice....
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But it would be nice to have the threat of switching in your back pocket. That's what will get AT&T to get more reasonable on their charges (such as $20/mo for texting? Give me a break.)
 
GQB said:
But it would be nice to have the threat of switching in your back pocket. That's what will get AT&T to get more reasonable on their charges (such as $20/mo for texting? Give me a break.)
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If Verizon could offer a nice chunk of savings, then yes I would leave it in my backpocket. However I am not going to switch if I can save 5 bucks.
 
reckless2k2 said:
I thought AT&T's 3G is a LOT faster than Verizon's 3G and many of Verizon's data speed markets are comparable to AT&T's EDGE. Hence the reason AT&T ran those commercials showing coverage at just about as many places. I do agree that Verizon has a larger overall coverage area.

I could be wrong but that's the way I understood it.
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The maximum on EDGE is 230kbps or something like that, I'm going off memory. Of course real-world conditions never get near the maximum. According to dslreports, the average speed on EDGE is 168kbps. On Verizon I constantly get over 1000. My last speed test on Verizon 3G was 1164kbps.

EDGE and 3G from Verizon are nowhere near alike, and I'm confused on how that bit of misinformation is always spread about these forums.
 
jav6454 said:
Verizon's 3G can be as slow as AT&Ts EDGE if at Rev0. The main markets that people see are at RevA. But the open places are Rev0. So yes, speeds can be comparable but only Verizon can call theirs 3G coverage.

As speeds go, AT&T's tech is much more faster than Verizon's.

I'm on my iPhone. So a much detailed explanation will have to wait.
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Wrong,

100% of Verizon's and Sprint's network is RevA and has been since 2007.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/press...-broadband-network-now-enhanced-faster-speeds
 
i-John said:
$20 for 1GB though. AT&T have 2GB for $25 without the need of a separate device. AT&T have the better deal on that one.
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MIFI can have up to 5 devices connected to it at the same time. Unless they change that aspect for the unit they bundle with the iPad, it is still a more versatile setup, but more for Power users I would suppose. ;)
 
And so the Apple-Verizon connection begins with ... a whimper?

I was expecting a BANG: a 4G/LTE phone introduced as the flagship product leading power-on of the new high-speed network.

Instead we get a squib: the stunted WiFi-only iPad paired with an external box (one more thing to carry & charge) operating on uncompetitive data plans (costing more for less plus [re]starting connection fees). Hardly better than getting the box & tablet separate at WalMart.

Meh.

Not pleasant watching the big V beg.
 
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