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My mistake. I did misread your comment.
Genuine non-sarcastic question - what are you storing on your tablet that requires so much storage which makes storage the highest priority?

Currently my iPad 64 and iTouch 64 are maxed out on games, photo's, music and a few other matters - hence, I'd jump at a 128G iPad or iTouch, if only to expand on games on the go and some TV/movies for long flights/travelling.

Basically my Apple iToy's are used by wife and daughter - me I use a iMac, Mac Mini and old choc bar phones - but storage is an issue to me and many others and wireless powered small 2.5in HDD's are no answer, MicroSD is an answer though, apart from bottlenecks they create.
 
Well, thats killed my interest in it dead.

I was hoping for a sub £200 price to really take on the nexus 7 but that price is frankly stupid.

Don't get me wrong, it'll sell shedloads but not to me at that price.
 
So I guess I was wrong. I earlier commented on that I thought Apple would sell the cheapest edition for around $249 in order to give no breathing space for the competition at all. With $329, that just won't happen. Apple will keep being Apple, competing by features and not price. But hey, it's been working out fairly well for them so far... :p Just that it probably won't be a competition killer in this tablet segment, although likely still snatching quite a market share.

You're actually wrong. Apple is loosing more and more market segment in tablets and at the handset market, they lost it already. The pricepoint for the 7inch ipad HAS to be 249 otherwise they'll loose this market segment too.
 
You're actually wrong. Apple is loosing more and more market segment in tablets and at the handset market, they lost it already. The pricepoint for the 7inch ipad HAS to be 249 otherwise they'll loose this market segment too.

With their market share as high as it is, there really is no way to go but down.

Give me a retina display and I am soooo in. I am spoiled by the new iPad and I can't see myself going back.
 
Change 'Apple' to 'Amazon' & 'iPad Mini' to 'Kindle Fire' and it is equally true.

Both are heavily locked-down and designed to be used within a closed ecosystem.
But the Kindle makes no money, it costs money with the hope, that they can earn with content. Apple on the other hand makes there money with the hardware, the content in the App store is only there to make the product more atractive. The money earned with that store stands in no relation to the earnings from the hardware.
Besides, the Kindle can not compete with the iPad on any level, they are different devices for a different purpose.
 
Have fun with all those super awesome Android apps... If anyone is thinking about getting their "first Android" you should probably consider the quality of the ecosystem... I just don't think they compare.

I'm curious... Is this a "cheap" price point for people? If $30 has people up in arms, for something that, retina or not, is sure to be stunning... Are you just looking for something that you'll never put a case on, toss in your bag and go kind of device?

For me, cheap hardware doesn't necessarily convince me to make the purchase. At the end of the day I want to be able to use it for more than just surfing the web.

8gb is pointless... I'm wishing I'd got the 32gb iPhone 5 over the 16... I only have 1gb free space left...

Me. All I want out of this announcement is the rumored slightly updated full size iPad... The rest is bonus

I'm well aware of the app quality in Android devices. I haven't owned one, but that doesn't mean I haven't used them, or did my research. As I explained, my needs for a tablet have changed. When I got my iPad, I needed it to do everything. It was essentially an extremely portable computer. Productivity and consumption. Now, I want a smaller device that I will read books on, read RRS feeds, and occasionally watch the odd video clip that may come along with them. Basically, I want an e-reader than does a bit more than your standard Kindle. I know that Chrome is good on the Nexus 7, Mail is good, several of the ebook reading apps are good. That's what I need. I get what you mean, and if you'll use a wide range of apps like I used to, the iPad wins. But my needs have changed. So thanks for wishing me fun, but the sarcasm isn't necessary.

And just as you were wrong regarding regarding the discussion of app quality (it doesn't matter for my needs), you're also wrong regarding storage. I'm going to read books. Anything else is streamed. Is 8GB really pointless? For you, yes. But it depends what the product will be used for. When my iPad was also my portable computer, I needed all the GBs I could get. My MacBook Air more than does the job now for portable content-creation. And as I said in my post you quoted, 8GB is rumoured to be discontinued on the Nexus 7 anyway. 16GB will be the entry-point.
 
I think iPad mini will start at $299. Why?

When the iPhone 5 and iPod touch were introduced, there was a glitch on the Dutch AppleStore. It said iPad from €319. This would correspond with a US price of $299.

I made a screen shot when the glitch occurred on September 12:

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On September 12, Dutch price to US price for iPod touch, for example, was EUR 209 against $199. For iPod Nano, it was EUR 169 against $149. For iPod Classic, it was EUR 259 against $249.

So iPad mini would correspond with $299.
 

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I think I could swallow an iPad Mini costing the same for a 16GB device as a 32GB Nexus 7*. Anything else would be pushing it for me.


*unless they launch with some sort of killer features not leaked so far
 
thats far too much for something that should be a mini

i was expecting prices to be starting at £199 at the highest.
 
so expensive for a tiny tablet. i'd rather buy the new Nexus 7 32GB for $249.

You are very welcome to buy anything you like.

On the other hand, I see Nexus sales dropping dead. Fact is, people don't want tablets, they want iPads, and Google better get used to it. What Apple offers is not a "tiny tablet", it is an iPad.
 
I hope these prices turn out to be wrong. At $329 starting, Apple won't have turned me into an iPad customer.
 
You're actually wrong. Apple is loosing more and more market segment in tablets and at the handset market, they lost it already. The pricepoint for the 7inch ipad HAS to be 249 otherwise they'll loose this market segment too.
Oh yeah, and with every lost point in market share they make more money then all competetors put together as they price themselfs out of business.
What was the purpose of a public company again?
Gaining market share or earning money?
 
I've been into a local HMV and tried out some of the other tablets available here in the UK and honestly none of them compare brilliantly against an iPad.

Asus tablets are horrid. The screen quality is the worst I've seen on anything intended for mobile use since the first color screen mobile phones. Plus the touch sensitivity is nowhere near as accurate as iOS devices. Played Angry Birds on a Transformer TF300T and it was impossible to aim let alone fire a shot.

The less expensive Arnova options didn't have anything better in the screen department except maybe a bit more responsiveness. The problem was they felt cheap and plastic alongside the unimpressive screen. Granted at £129 to £149 they are what they were intended to be.

The Nexus 7 had the only screen that could even come close to a iPad, but the OS was rubbish. All the non-iPad tablets there were on some form of Android operating system. The Nexus 7 however, just felt over complicated and made me appreciate the simplicity of iOS.

Both the iPad 2 and the new iPad were better and easier to use than the alternatives on offer. $329 will probably be around £279 with Apple's rates for selling over here in the UK. That's a good price for the best OS on the market. Even if it only has iPad 2 features.

I reckon we will see 16GB as a minimum on storage, 1GB of RAM, and a high-quality screen. Maybe Retina, maybe not, but better than the competition.
 
what happened to the rumored $249 price? That would have been a homerun.
Nothing happened to it. It's still a rumor. An increasingly unreliable rumor.

You should find out who started that rumor, and put an X by their name (in pencil, since Apple hasn't officially announced that there even will be an iPad Mini). After the announcement, if that rumor is as untrue as the latest rumors are indicating, take an indelible marker and make it the mark permanent.

Then again, if the $249 price turns out to be true, erase the X and replace it with a big green check. Then put the dreaded permanent X by whoever started the $329 rumor.

After Apple's announcement, you'll know several things:
  • Whether there will be an iPad Mini.
  • What the price will be.
  • Who to trust for rumors and who not to trust in the future
Make this a teachable moment.
 
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Many comparing the price of an iPad Mini to 7" tablets are forgetting that the 7.85" screen with a 4:3 aspect ratio is a much larger screen, something like 40% more screen area, than the 7", 16:9 screens on the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire.

Add to that the hugely improved apps, music and movies ecosystem and you can see that a 50% price premium is more than reasonable.
 
The price will be what it is, and people will buy it or not. With a hundred billion in the bank Apple must be doing something right.
 
The Nexus 7 had the only screen that could even come close to a iPad, but the OS was rubbish. All the non-iPad tablets there were on some form of Android operating system. The Nexus 7 however, just felt over complicated and made me appreciate the simplicity of iOS.

Why it is rubbish? And where is the complication of use?
 
Many comparing the price of an iPad Mini to 7" tablets are forgetting that the 7.85" screen with a 4:3 aspect ratio is a much larger screen, something like 40% more screen area, than the 7", 16:9 screens on the Nexus 7 and Kindle Fire.

Add to that the hugely improved apps, music and movies ecosystem and you can see that a 50% price premium is more than reasonable.

A larger screen with a lower resolution than the competition. I can see individual pixels AND more space! Go :apple:
 
Applebee's 2 for $20! Plus tax and tip :)

Applebees is one step above Mcdonolds. ick.

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Oh yeah, and with every lost point in market share they make more money then all competetors put together as they price themselfs out of business.
What was the purpose of a public company again?
Gaining market share or earning money?

Whom ever has the most money wins. Do BMW or ROLEX compete on price point? No, they compete on brand, service, quality, happiness of the customer ect...
 
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