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You know what's more pathetic? A 1500 dollar phone that can't even open apps faster than a phone half its price. It should be winning every test yet its losing most of them lol. A 1500 dollar ipod that doesn't even have enough ram to use the camera and keep its place in youtube. I guess a13 isn't all its hyped up to be.
Using opening apps to gauge the performance of a phone, is like gauging the performance of a car by how many turns of the crank the engine takes to start.
 
There is absolutely no evidence that Apple design the screens. They might be designing display controllers but not the screens. Don't you remember the time when Apple double sourced LCD panels from LG and Samsung and everyone wanted a Samsung panel because they were better? If Apple designed those screens, would not they be identical?
Sources?
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A DisplayMate score/review is irrelevant since these companies pay DisplayMate $50k+ for their endorsement.
Sources?
 
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You know what's more pathetic? A 1500 dollar phone that can't even open apps faster than a phone half its price. It should be winning every test yet its losing most of them lol. A 1500 dollar ipod that doesn't even have enough ram to use the camera and keep its place in youtube. I guess a13 isn't all its hyped up to be.

A13 is everything it’s hyped up to be. That’s why so many people are raging. They just can’t stand knowing the iPhone is the fastest device around.
 
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He said, she said. Blah blah blah ;)

iPhone has the best display. I don't really care who makes it.

The End.
 
yet completely ignoring the Tyrannosaurus rex in the room — PWM.
What's up with the PWM frequencies this time around? Screen still strobes.

Glad you brought this up. Seems to be absent from DisplayMate’s review, along with high refresh rate / ProMotion. iPhone 11 Pro Max rightly earns high marks on the metrics tested, but they clearly omitted or overlooked some important ones.
 
I thought iPhones were behind in hardware?
They are. It's not a Apple screen, it's a Samsung screen. Furthermore, it's just Ray Soneira cashing his marketing check from Apple like every year, as his actual report doesn't show its better than Note 10. It's only brighter in manual brightness, everything else the Note 10 scores higher.
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Continuing to raise the bar on color accuracy? How can that be when last year they said the same thing with the supposed holy grail 6500K white point? Wasn't that supposed to be as "color accurate" as it gets?

Something stinks here, I wonder if Displaymate is on Apple's dole. Either that or they are getting cherry picked units no doubt, because I've seen some horrendous screens out there, half yellow half pink, pink halos around the edges, green tinge gradients, etc., and I'm not even touching the yellow screen issue.
Indeed. Furthermore, how can they raise the bar in color accuracy when according to their own test, the Note 10 in natural mode is even far more color accurate.
 
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The iPhone has always had great screens and vibrant colours. Even with their LCDs, they do the colour reproduction is so well.
And now actually also read the whole report and compare color accuracy with Note 10's Natural mode...
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Just saw a video where the iPhone 11 pro max beat the Xs max. I guess it depends jn what you measure and how you measure it and believe the software will eventually be tweaked.
I've actually seen several videos now where last year's model beats iPhone 11. Poor show, that's for sure
 
Just saw a video where the iPhone 11 pro max beat the Xs max. I guess it depends jn what you measure and how you measure it and believe the software will eventually be tweaked.
I've actually seen several videos now where last year's model beats iPhone 11. Poor show, that's for sure
One team at Apple has pioneered absolutely perfect screen color accuracy whilst another has devised an OS feature that gradually turns the screen yellow/orange as daylight fades. I can only imagine the loathing they feel for each other.
It's not even perfect color accuracy! The Note 10 in natural mode is far more accurate even! Read the damn report
 
No it wouldn't since the video card has absolutely NOTHING to do with how fast a game loads.

App races (like the video shown above) are beyond stupid. It's a pity people actually think they represent a reliable way of benchmarking performance.

But we know why they exist:

Apple processors trounce everything else on the planet. This is very upsetting to users of Android devices or those that generally dislike Apple. So they take years of accepted practices for measuring performance and throw them out the window in exchange for some "new" fabricated (and easy to cheat on) test that shows their preferred devices in a better light. Always moving the goalposts.
Actually, the real reason they exist is to make money either directly or indirectly for the publishers of such videos. That is their sole purpose. The more controversial the more it gets shared. There is no journalistic integrity involved, nor standards-based testing methodologies.

But yes, people seem to lap it up and oddly (to me) put meaning to them.
 
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Lol, it took almost doubling prices for Apple to reach and slightly overtake the competition regarding screens. Good for them.
 
For me the entirety of the iPhone vs Oneplus 7 makes the iPhone worth the price.
Same for me, that's why I have an iPhone 11.

But the article is about screen quality and my original comment stands – it takes Apple twice as much money to achieve what the competition already had.
 
Sure, compare the screen of a OnePlus 7 Pro (a 700 € smartphone) to the screen of an 11 Pro Max (at 1400 €). The OnePlus came out half a year before the iPhone at that!

OnePlus 7 Pro matches or sets 10 Smartphone Display Performance Records, earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade.
That is not the same attributes though. Sure the OnePlus 7 Pro has got a great screen. A friend of mine bought it when it came out. A really nice phone indeed. And yes it got the same rating for the screen. The screen of the OnePlus is even bigger and has higher resolution, albeit more reflective, more mirror like, brightness levels only reach about half that of the iPhone, still good but don't underestimate the significant improvement there from the iPhone. And even when you put the OnePlus in high brightness mode it doesn't come close. Then there is the contract rating, again about half that of the iPhone 11 Pro. Both are very close to the standard for colour production as long as the OnePlus is put into the Natural mode.



Both are very good, but ultimately, a phone is made up of more than just a screen. Saying that if I couldn't use iOS I'd probably would go for the OnePlus....
 
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Thank you Samsung factories for manufacturing an Apple designed and engineered screen. In the same way TSMC factories make Apple designed A13.

Lol you are so wrong. This is 100 % Samsung's design and technology. They have over 5000 patents on there oled technology.

This is just there latest panel design and will get better with the next galaxy phone (4k) and this iphone just fit the window to get there best screen in between there galaxy phones.

The next note will have a 4k screen
 
Well both displays are manufactured by Samsung, so they will perform similarly. Apple has obviously done some software tweaks to improve the display's performance, hence the better score.

Well, a display panel is "just" a display panel. It must be top class on its own, like those provided to Apple by both LG and Samsung, but at the end of the day it "just" offers an ordered matrix of responsive organic materials that light up when a current is applied. In its basic form, a display needs a HW driver to pilot the emitter. On top of this, Apple integrates a lot more to the bare panel. Just to mention one feature, it provides sensors to enable True Tone mapping; they read the environment lightning and instruct the driver to compensate and adapt color, brightness, saturation and contrast at each screen refresh. The balancing mix of contrast, brightness and luminance it's a choice of the integrator and can be "static" (done once and forever) or "dynamic". Apple chose the latter.
Samsung has a "TV-set" approach, where they pump up color saturation to increase the psychological perception of contrast (especially for primary colors against black). It's eye catching but sometimes quite far from reality. Apple privileges more natural color nuances and a slightly less aggressive contrast. It's a choice and both are granted to have success as different people look for a different feeling and appreciate different visual sensations.

Nonetheless, when it comes to objective measurement, subjectiveness goes into trash. You want to measure how close to match the reality you are, how much the signals hold their originating counterpart, and so on. You don't want a broadcasting camera to enhance arbitrarily certain characteristics of the scene it is framing. In this regard, Apple is way better than Samsung as its own display management strategy seems to be less consumer-oriented than the latter. Again, it's a choice of the phone manufacturers but objective measurements are done against references, not subjective tastes. iPhone 11 Pro display is objectively better than that of Samsung Note 10+, even if one could prefer the latter.

M.
 
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If the display performance was all Samsung, the Note 10 would have the highest rate display, but it doesn’t. Also, still surprised Android folks really still grasp to the YouTube “real world tests”, which have no relevance at all. Talk about desperate times. Just enjoy your product and lay off competitor sites.
 
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The screen is great, looking at it, it might very well be the best display around. Now if one the GIGANTIC Bezels and Notch wouldnt be there it would be an absolutly stunning phone. The way the pro's look right now is just... dated.
I REALLY wanted to update, but this is such a turnoff for me.
 
They are. It's not a Apple screen, it's a Samsung screen.

But it's still an Apple phone, so what difference does it make? Surely the salient point is that iPhone currently has the best display, irrespective of who makes it. We're talking about the best display in a smart phone, not a "my dad's bigger than your dad" fanboy face-off.
 
If the display performance was all Samsung, the Note 10 would have the highest rate display, but it doesn’t. Also, still surprised Android folks really still grasp to the YouTube “real world tests”, which have no relevance at all. Talk about desperate times. Just enjoy your product and lay off competitor sites.
Note 10+ actually got the same highest rating from Displaymate and if you compare individual results you would see that Note 10+ mostly didn't have lower individual results compared to the iphone 11 pro max.
 
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