Not defending anyone here , but thats not the logical POV , if NO ONE has a charger , then sure you are right , but most ppl have chargers aplenty , for me what goes bad is usually the cords , they get thrown around and getting damaged , the power bricks never broke on me so I have tons of them through the years.
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iPhone 12 Models Ship in Thinner Box Without EarPods or Charger
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Not defending anyone here , but thats not the logical POV , if NO ONE has a charger , then sure you are right , but most ppl have chargers aplenty , for me what goes bad is usually the cords , they get thrown around and getting damaged , the power bricks never broke on me so I have tons of them through the years.
Everyone owns newer Macs? And everyone has previous Lightning cables or those that are still in good shape to last more and more years?
iPhone 12 Mini, the perfect answer to those still complaining and want smaller iPhone like older SE. You got the best of both world. Smaller size foot print and most uptodate tech. Hope, iPhone 12 Mini makes them happy or keep them quite.
iPhone SE, 11,12 and Pros are all excellent line up. Though I like to see future SE3 with TouchID moved to power button keeping the same frame size,$399 price,offering bit larger screen area.
iPhone SE, 11,12 and Pros are all excellent line up. Though I like to see future SE3 with TouchID moved to power button keeping the same frame size,$399 price,offering bit larger screen area.
Do people understand that the only thing that changed in the cable is the end that plugs into the wall? It's still lightning. So if you have used lightning cables in the past, they still work to charge the new phones. If you want to charge faster, buy a USB C block.
People also aren't mentioning that the starting config on the Pro is 128GB. For me, take the block and give me more memory in exchange for the cost difference. I have a ton of USB C and its honestly a better wired charging experience anyway.
People also aren't mentioning that the starting config on the Pro is 128GB. For me, take the block and give me more memory in exchange for the cost difference. I have a ton of USB C and its honestly a better wired charging experience anyway.
Nearly every single person buying an iPhone already has "headpones", "charging cable" and "usb block". Why would they buy new ones?
But they changed which power adapter is needed by including a different cable now, which means that many if not even most who have those power adapters already won't really be able to use most of them.
Well, they are changing which power adapter is needed by including a different cable, so there's that.
Highlighted your answer for you. It was a rumour. Seems as if that's all it is.. for now, of course. Things could change down the road.
I don't tend to look at it that way. Rather than, "Where is my extra two bucks or whatever the charger cost to make", it's still a simple math:
I get [this and this and this] for my $699/$999/$1099/$399/$599/whatever...is it worth it? So you add the cost of a charger and cable if you need one. I don't need one, I already have one. Not specific to the replied-to post, but I don't understand all the complaints that "I don't have USB-C." If you have an iPhone currently, the same things that charge it can charge the new one, I understand. One would pay separately (but only optionally) to upgrade the experience.
I'm happy to make that trade-off for the environmental advancement.
It's a Lightning port in the iPhone 12, right? I'll just keep using the same cable and charger I have here plugged into the wall. Still fine after three years. I have a second pristine newer cable. And if I buy a MacBook, the new cable in the iPhone 12 box suits that.
For me is a simple "no charger?" = no buy!
I recycle my iPhones to my family ... i have no chargers left at home (maybe i can re-use my iPad charger, but i don't carry it with me always).
Also, any lightning cable that Apple sells dies a painful death after 2 years ....
no sell on this iPhone 12 for me ....
I recycle my iPhones to my family ... i have no chargers left at home (maybe i can re-use my iPad charger, but i don't carry it with me always).
Also, any lightning cable that Apple sells dies a painful death after 2 years ....
no sell on this iPhone 12 for me ....
You can still use the Lightning-to-USB and USB charging brick from your last iPhone.
Yay for charging you more money, but giving you less stuff! /s
But you don't need to use that cable. It's there if you want an incentive to (optionally) upgrade the portion of the experience to do with charging. I believe that out of the box, you can unplug your current iPhone, and plug your iPhone 12 into your existing cable.
Yes, because they're the most fragile cables ever invented.
I'm all for the environmental changes but the pricing doesn't reflect removing these devices so YES they are helping the environment BUT they are taking a bigger profit per device and some consumers may need to buy these devices now as they don't have earlier models to get the headphones or plugs so this is another purchase getting Apple even more money.
No, its still a lightening cable. It just has a USB-C at one end but guess what, you don't have to use it. Use the current 50 million USB ones you have.
Apple is passing a better environment to the consumers, which is is worth more than the $5 it costs for a USB charging brick.
Yup many people are basically getting a phone without anything else essentially as even the single included cable won't be useful to them without buying something else that they don't have (a different power adapter). While still basically paying the same type of prices they paid before when they got more.
And no, an increase in storage isn't there to balance out removal of something else, it's just how technology progresses. We don't get less and less simply because a faster CPU or more memory is there, it's not really how it works.
USB-C is still new because I still need a stupid dock to plug anything into my work laptop, and it's glitchy enough that I often have to replug things to make them work. I get that standards have to change, but they needed a transitional period as usual where the Macs had both ports instead of yoloing it (esp when iPhones STILL don't use USB-C for some reason).