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I just dropped my iPhone X and broke the screen. Now face ID is acting funny. It’s the only reasons I’m getting a new iPhone this fall. Replacement screens on a 4 year old phone is still expensive.
It'll be a huge upgrade though, the cameras alone have gotten worlds better, not to mention the performance and battery life. The 12 Pro Max is a marvel compared to what came before. Can't wait to see what's next.
 
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The funniest of all of this is that they claim that everyone already has a charger (most likely from previous iPhone purchases) yet they include a cable that does not even work with all these chargers! So either you buy another charger to be able to use this cable OR you have a new cable that becomes more waste because you cannot even use it! environmental my a
The cable is not for bricks, it’s for plugging into Macs.
 
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Apple really can't win here at MR...

... comes out with a new capability - one segment cries about shameless money grabbing

... doesn't come out with a new capability - another segment cries about how Apple just rehashes the same stuff without innovating or improving...

Your issue is #3- too cheap to include charger in box we used to get for the same phone pricing. Their reason was we all already have those chargers. Well not if they keep changing the brick wattage we don't. 18 to 20 to 25 in 3 years.

But remember, we'll keep killing the environment with shipping and packaging for all of those millions of new chargers.

Puhlease, it has been and always will be a money grab with the chargers to save money charging the same for the phone, and selling the $20 brick on top. Let's let a little bit of real-life business 01 reality hit here.

Notice that they want a wattage that nothing else they sell before uses- it's always some odd wattage for a new brick to sell you. It's an excuse to sell yet another brick at $20. Until the year after they change it again a few watts to sell millions of more bricks.


Or how about make a charger that can charge at 5w overnight OR fast when you need it with a button push. Innovation! (Apple can have that idea for free). But if Apple says the brick can be used they have done testing at that wattage over time and fast charging should at that wattage should not cause significant declines in battery health.
 
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Does it cost more to make a faster charger? if not, why not make all chargers just 25W to begin with.
 
Does it cost more to make a faster charger? if not, why not make all chargers just 25W to begin with.
I mean pennies. Probably a tiny bit beefier internals. To a company like Apple? Pennies per brick.

But then they cant sell you a new one each year at the new wattage- 2019 18W, 2020 20W, 2021 25W.
 
I know people love fast charging... but...

I bought one of those new Anker Nano 20W chargers. The little tiny one.

That little sucker gets hot! And my iPhone does too!

Is it safe to use this sort of fast charger regularly?

:oops:

I have the same charger I use for my iPad Pro and it’s gets slightly warm but thats it. Not extremely hot. I actually use it for my phone top (non-Apple). Came with a 65 watt charger but screw that, I don’t get the obsession with this extreme charging tech but I’m not really interested in it. 20-25 watt is fine for me and that’s still pushing it as far as I’m concerned.

I kinda stick with the 80/30 charging routine and rarely let it get down that low so my gear usually isn’t on the charger that long anyway.
 
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If your iPhone (depending on your routine) can't adopt Optimized Battery Charging, overnight charging is what ruined your battery because it sits there halve the night with 100% (I ruined mine with a dock in the office).

Fast charging is bad for your battery too. I ruined the battery of my iPad Pro 12,9(1st) by fast charging it with an Apple 29W adapter (I guess this wasn't fully supported) Is far as I know Apple today only fast charges the first 50% and then goes slower to preserve battery lifetime.

80 percent after 40 months isn’t ruined. That’s a great lifespan for one battery.

And fast charging is fine if you keep it within certain parameters. Like not going from 0 to 100 everyday. It’s fine in that 30-35 to 80 percent range, fast charging or not. Short spurts are also better but it’s honestly nothing anyone should stress out about if your swapping out your phone every 2 or 3 years anyway.
 
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Give Apple 10 years and they will catch up with Xiaomi's 200W chargers (it'll probably take Apple 5 years to learn those exist)
 
Faster charging is good when you need it. But not good for battery health
 
About damn time. My friend with a Xiami is mocking me and my 11 Pro Max it only charges at 7.5W which is unacceptable for 2021 standards.
 
If your iPhone (depending on your routine) can't adopt Optimized Battery Charging, overnight charging is what ruined your battery because it sits there halve the night with 100% (I ruined mine with a dock in the office).

Fast charging is bad for your battery too. I ruined the battery of my iPad Pro 12,9(1st) by fast charging it with an Apple 29W adapter (I guess this wasn't fully supported) Is far as I know Apple today only fast charges the first 50% and then goes slower to preserve battery lifetime.
It optimizes and sits at 80% most of the night and tops off before I wake up.
 
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Actually Oneplus solution (Or more specifically Oppos) is one of the more clever ways of handling fast charging which results in them also having lower temps.

Link1 and Link 2, if interested to read up on how things work outside of the Apple bubble :)
Interesting, but do a lot of people really need to fully recharge in 30 mins?
 
Interesting, but do a lot of people really need to fully recharge in 30 mins?
Probably not. But those that do probably appreciates to have the ability when/if needed however infrequently that might happen. But are you implying that just because a function is not wanted/used by every single person then it should not exist at all? Would that really be better in your opinion?
 
Lol. Bro didn’t you now this?! Where were you when Nokia had over 70 phones, no more than 10 sharing batteries, cables, chargers, charging battery docks, etc.

Exactly.

Back in the old days of the flip-phone... hardly anyone could share the same charging cable.

I had a Motorola... gf had an LG... buddy had a Samsung... etc. Then there was Audiovox, Ericsson... the list goes on and on.

Hell... even the same manufacturer could use different cables. It was a mess.

At least now the charging cable situation is a little better.

On the device-end of the cable... we've got Apple (Lightning) and everyone else (USB-C)

Though we're still figuring out the charger-end of the cable... USB-A vs USB-C

Personally... every new charger I buy is now USB-C... so at least that end of my cables will be standardized.

:)
 
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Apple - we’ve removed the power adaptor for environmental reasons since everyone has one at home

Apple - we’ll keep changing the power adapter every year
How is support for a new adapter a change?
 
If you need a charger now keep it. This is simply a rumour that 13 series might support higher charge and even so the actual real world difference likely won't be much between 20>25. If any tbh.
Yes. We cannot be sure about the improvement until we actually see it. I use the 10W adapter I got with the iPad mini and it’s not significantly slower than what you would get with Fast Charging.

You can read more about it here.
 
A more significant upgrade, in my view, would be adoption of GaN technology. Imagine getting Fast Charging with an adapter the size of the current 5W adapter.
 
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