LFC2020
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No damage done, Face ID is miles ahead of Touch ID and under screen finger print readers.
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iPhone 13 Models Will 'Likely' Have Touch ID Under the Display
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tbayrgs
macrumors 604
You must not live in the US. I’ve seen or directly dealt with those who insist not wearing a mask is their ‘God given constitutional right’ throughout this pandemic and it’s only becoming more prevalent as numbers drop and the vaccine rolls out. Texas has already declared this pandemic over 🙄 which means my home state of Florida is not far behind.
Most who get the vaccine will just stop wearing masks while those who oppose getting the vaccine already fell masks are oppressive. Sadly, wearing a mask here will be the exception, not the norm, well before it should be
Have you actually used iOS 14.5/watchOS 7.4? Unless it dramatically improves before rollout, it’s not an adequate replacement for Touch ID. It fails nearly half the time when I use it, telling me to move my watch (series 6) closer to my phone (12 Pro Max) though I’m holding it a few inches away in the hand attached to the wrist wearing the watch. I’m working directly with customers face to face all day so I have a mask on most of the day. I’d love to have the Touch ID/Face ID combo available.
tbayrgs
macrumors 604
Nope—only works to unlock your phone. Password auto fill will require passcode input and apps that authenticate with Face ID will require your app/account password input.
tbayrgs
macrumors 604
inkswamp
macrumors 68030
Amen!
Face ID is a great example of a solution in search of a problem to solve and Apple should never have replaced Touch ID with it. Facial recognition makes for an impressive demo but in day-to-day use, it's a hassle and it really doesn't do anything touch ID doesn't already do better. I love that I can unlock my phone with my fingerprint regardless of what angle my phone is at. With Face ID, I always have to hold it up just so and god forbid that the lighting isn't quite right or that I'm moving at the time. The longer I deal with Face ID, the less I want it.
m0sher
macrumors 6502a
Good news since this is my next iPhone.
I love FaceID and so it’s just a superfluous feature IMO like when on a desk or night table and your not up on it.
I love FaceID and so it’s just a superfluous feature IMO like when on a desk or night table and your not up on it.
Face ID sucks and is garbage. Get rid of that completely and get rid of the notch. Terrible feature
goobot
macrumors 604
The people most likely to look like you and thus trick Face ID are the people you live with, Touch ID is completely random when it comes to that. The number really holds no relevance for anything other than Apple marketing.
Since Face ID is useless with a mask on, this is sorely needed. Mask wearing isn't going away anytime soon.
iPhone's Asia market must have been frustrated after Touch ID was removed in the first place, mask wearing being a more prevalent thing there until COVID.
iPhone's Asia market must have been frustrated after Touch ID was removed in the first place, mask wearing being a more prevalent thing there until COVID.
usagora
macrumors 601
For me, Face ID often failed, required me to enter by passcode. Touch ID has not failed me a single time to my recollection. It's also handy to not have to pick up my phone and look at it directly in some situations like when I'm at a desk with my phone on the desk or in bed with it next to my head.
Not sure why you wouldn't want people to have the best of both worlds. You do realize they're saying it will have BOTH Face ID and Touch ID, not replace Face ID with Touch ID, right? So how is that going to affect you at all? 🤔
Apple_Robert
Contributor
You are correct. Barring LEO involvement, Touch ID and Face ID add extra security against unauthorized access.
4jasontv
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Yes, I am. And those are exactly the people that are going to make masks the norm. Instead of recognizing they are not experts they do what 'feels right' and end up making everyone else's life worse. IDK why we are letting states have any say in this. If it was a foreign country invading our beaches no state would tell the federal government 'hey, we got this, we don't need your aid.'
Yeah Apple licensed QUALCOMM's Ultrasonic sensors for their IN display fingerprint
hybrid_x
macrumors 6502a
I'm curious why they would invest so much time, money, and resources in something like this, when they figured out a perfectly usable workaround in the new iPad Air, incorporating Touch ID into the top button.
otternonsense
Suspended
If they have this and no notch, take my money yesterday. I've grown to hate Face ID with a burning grudge since mandatory masking became our new reality.
otternonsense
Suspended
That's what you get when you're stuck with a hapless CEO who's only interested in the bottomline and not the products or the users.
McG2k1
macrumors 6502
I absolutely hate Face ID. I welcome the return of Touch ID in any form.
tbayrgs
macrumors 604
States have control because that’s exactly how this country was constructed with our Constitution, directly in response to preventing an excessively strong Federal government. Like it or not, it’s not going to change.
Even if we should be wearing masks, most here won’t.
Alright, apologies for the tangent—back to the topic at hand. Like I previously inferred, I’d love to have both Touch ID and Face ID to cover all bases. Will be even better if you can have the ability to stack them for specific circumstances (i.e. accessing specific apps or password protected notes/etc).
acblue94
macrumors 6502a
August West
macrumors 6502a
I was always happy with face ID until COVID and masks. After a year now of wearing a mask in public I hate face ID. Might as well not have any biometric ID system since I have to enter my pass code every time I use the phone. And I've quit using Apple Pay entirely since it is just easier and faster to pull the card out of my wallet and stick it in the reader.
I loved FaceID until this little bugger came and turned everything upside down.
The most difficult use case is when I try to keep my family fed. I need to take a glance at the shopping list from time to time when filling the shopping cart, and then I need to pay with my phone. At the moment (with the mask) I need to take off a glove and tapity-tapity-tap my password every time I want to open the phone. For obvious reasons I would not a) like to take off my gloves and b) touch the phone while shopping.
A fingerprint detector would be faster but it has the same problem with the gloves. The phone becomes a collection of dirty fingerprints plus everything possible living in those fingerprints. So, while it would be handier, it wouldn't be any safer. (And without the gloves... oops.)
The ideal solution would be to use an iris scanner. It is very reliable, more reliable than either fingerprint scanners or FaceID, and the Daugman algorithm (Iriscode) is very simple. Of course it would look a bit silly, because the phone needs to be relatively close to the eye, but other than that, it should be easy to implement. The only small change needed is a bit closer short focus on the selfie cam, the rest is software.
The most difficult use case is when I try to keep my family fed. I need to take a glance at the shopping list from time to time when filling the shopping cart, and then I need to pay with my phone. At the moment (with the mask) I need to take off a glove and tapity-tapity-tap my password every time I want to open the phone. For obvious reasons I would not a) like to take off my gloves and b) touch the phone while shopping.
A fingerprint detector would be faster but it has the same problem with the gloves. The phone becomes a collection of dirty fingerprints plus everything possible living in those fingerprints. So, while it would be handier, it wouldn't be any safer. (And without the gloves... oops.)
The ideal solution would be to use an iris scanner. It is very reliable, more reliable than either fingerprint scanners or FaceID, and the Daugman algorithm (Iriscode) is very simple. Of course it would look a bit silly, because the phone needs to be relatively close to the eye, but other than that, it should be easy to implement. The only small change needed is a bit closer short focus on the selfie cam, the rest is software.