I read your (or others ideas on slider) and not sure I am i n favor of that style I find slider controls (software especially ) kind of touchy but we will have to see
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iPhone 15 Pro Leak Reveals Unified Volume Button and Mute Button
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More than just meetings, this will literally send somebody to jail.
Judges HATE when phones ring in their courtrooms. They especially hate it when attorney phones ring. And this is going to result in accidental unmutes.
It's annoying in meetings. It can get you locked up for contempt in court.
In our post Apple Watch Ultra world, I wonder if that button isn’t actually a mute button but rather a programmable button which will be sold as one of the exclusive pro features. Imagine a single click could trigger the usual mute/ unmute function while a double click could trigger some custom action such as:
- Auto launch camera and start recording
- Open messages app
- Start audio recording
- open notes
Well you get the idea.
- Auto launch camera and start recording
- Open messages app
- Start audio recording
- open notes
Well you get the idea.
Well depends what the telephoto is I thought it was more significant than latest rumors are suggesting a 6X telephoto which is only twice the 3X on my 14 ProMax. If 6x I will see but may wait on 16 like you,
Apple should make the base functional design of the iPhone the same whether Pro or not, with the upgrades in components like the processor, camera etc. Differences in things like buttons merely create the impression that “non Pro” is equal to “budget”. We already have the SE for that.
Designed in California…where they don’t wear gloves obviously
This. An old Pro might actually be a better buy than a new base iPhone now.
I doubt these are changes just for the "sake of change" When you have a mature product you can finally start paying attention to small details and refining them to make the overall product better. The more "solid state" the iPhone becomes the fewer places for mechanical failure and water ingress it has.
I agree with others who've said that this is a backward step because they will no longer be able to tell if their phone is muted simply by feeling for the switch position with their fingertip.
There will no doubt be some advantages to this new design to offset this, but for me this is a really useful bit of functionality lost. Assuming this rumour is correct, of course!
There will no doubt be some advantages to this new design to offset this, but for me this is a really useful bit of functionality lost. Assuming this rumour is correct, of course!
I could see it *possibly* adding to water resistance of the device... but, besides that, yeah, seems like a downgrade in basic functionality.
If water resistance isn't greatly improved, then I can't see a good reason for this disappointing change.
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man this is shaping up to be a terrible release, Godspeed Tim and co. after one of the most underwhelming non-Pro releases of all time last year
[edit: this isn’t even non-Pro. it’s on the Pro model. I’m…truly at a loss for words.]
[edit: this isn’t even non-Pro. it’s on the Pro model. I’m…truly at a loss for words.]
I agree. How much space do they save internally by replacing the physical buttons? I can’t imagine it’s that much, given they have to insert taptic engines to make up for it. They may even take up more room now. I wonder if it’s somehow connected to the thinner bezels or if it’s an effort to make all buttons programmable (something that may not happen until the Ultra) comes out.
As far as I understand, haptic technology requires your skin to touch the button to register a press. In other words, it won't work through clothing or gloves. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds like a huge inconvenience since there is no more adjusting the volume without taking your phone out of your pocket. And those of us who live in colder climates better take those gloves off every single time we want to press any button on an iPhone.
And what about silent mode? Who needs visual feedback or an orange indicator to know which mode your phone is currently in? Spent an extra 5-10 seconds looking for your iPhone menus to see if it’s in silent mode or not.
I know Apple seem to argue that state buttons with haptic feedback further improve water resistance. The current water resistance is more than enough for 99% of regular iPhone users and those who need more can get a waterproof camera for their underwater adventures.
Also, haptics requires a battery to work, so what if the haptic engine fails? It will make using your phone even more fun, not knowing whether the button works or not when you are trying to restart it. So yeah, let's add more unnecessary features to replace perfectly working features that also drain the battery. What an excellent trade-off!
In all seriousness, this is a terrible idea. Physical buttons don't need batteries, and they're more reliable. Apple should focus on improving other aspects of their phones, like cold resistance, which would be much more appreciated these days. Apple should have learned that their improvements are not always great, and this concept has a touch bar and butterfly keyboard stink all around it.
And what about silent mode? Who needs visual feedback or an orange indicator to know which mode your phone is currently in? Spent an extra 5-10 seconds looking for your iPhone menus to see if it’s in silent mode or not.
I know Apple seem to argue that state buttons with haptic feedback further improve water resistance. The current water resistance is more than enough for 99% of regular iPhone users and those who need more can get a waterproof camera for their underwater adventures.
Also, haptics requires a battery to work, so what if the haptic engine fails? It will make using your phone even more fun, not knowing whether the button works or not when you are trying to restart it. So yeah, let's add more unnecessary features to replace perfectly working features that also drain the battery. What an excellent trade-off!
In all seriousness, this is a terrible idea. Physical buttons don't need batteries, and they're more reliable. Apple should focus on improving other aspects of their phones, like cold resistance, which would be much more appreciated these days. Apple should have learned that their improvements are not always great, and this concept has a touch bar and butterfly keyboard stink all around it.
The visual indicator will obviously be in the Dynamic Island, but since the mute switch is almost always on for me (and I suspect many others), this might be kind of annoying.
girl, you know I love your comments, but…really not the best comparison to make when talking about good changes. 😂
Maybe this will finally be the shape I've been wanting for years. I miss the rounded corners, but not as round as my old XS. My current 13 Pro is too boxy. I'm also hoping for titanium for weight savings, especially since I need to go for the Max size phone this time around.
Until you put a case on it and that switch becomes so recessed that you have to use your fingernail.
Or you get one of those cases that has a flap covering the mute switch, those are annoying.
I have to agree here. I can see how getting rid of the switch makes the iPhone appear a bit more "modern"? From a pure stylistic view, a single small switch with a painted orange indicator is a little more "old fashioned" looking than nothing but sleek silver buttons.
Unfortunately, that's a "form over function" argument, which Apple has been known to be on the wrong side of before....
I think a mute button will get accidentally pressed more often than the recessed switch is accidentally flipped, too.
What a ridiculous assumption. You clearly missed the entire point of my post. The notch didn't didn't take anything away and also gave us FaceID.
You're suggesting that there will be an easy to see visual indicator.... that works through people's ... pants pockets?
I'm sure that will really improve battery life...
what on earth are you talking about, if anything, this makes the buttons on the side of the phone even *more* expensive.
Now they have to be touch sensitive, now they have to have haptic engines underneath each one, now they have to develop new ways to hard reset the iPhone…
It is literally the opposite of cost-cutting what they are doing here.
Cost-cutting would be them leaving it the same for another year