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My prediction, based on nothing at all:
* iPhone 15 /15 Max will gain the Island, and lose ALL ports. Charging only via MagSafe. A16 chip, 6GB RAM
* iPhone 15 Pro will get A17, will NOT get Periscope camera, and will also be portless.
* iPhone 15 Ultra will be A17, periscope camera, and USB-C / Thunderbolt.
TBH I think most of the above is more likely for the iPhone 16 than 15. But if so, the 15 will stick with Lightning. They’re not going to move from Lightning to USB-C to Portless; they’ll stick with Lightning until the last possible moment.
 
No hate but I am really curious how long Apple will be able to push it before hopefully going back to two models a year and the previous generation simply dropping in price like back in the day. One can wish right? maybe the incoming recession will be an eye opener. You can only increase the price so much to compensate less sales in total (again, simply assuming).

Personally, our energy price has nearly doubled, soon people will not be able to afford even charging their things 😅

On the other hand, there are unfortunately a lot of those people that rather save money on other things (like school supply for their children, mentally talking about someone specific 👀), to buy a new iPhone.
Apple did not increase iPhone prices, and they have more price points to choose from — what’s wrong with that?

Also, who are you to judge what someone else spends their money on? If buying something brings a bit of joy amongst the chaos around us, I say go for it. Some people like to spend thousands on a vacation, and others like to buy an electronic device. Someone may even want to spend $3 at the coffee shop everyday because it makes them feel good — a year of that is about the same cost as an iPhone Pro Max.

EDIT: As contacos pointed out, the price has increased outside the US. But as exchange rates start to normalize, I would imagine these price will start coming down — I hope soon.
 
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I have never liked the "Pro Max" naming so if there is going to be a larger distinction in the Pro line then I suppose "Ultra" will do. I'm curious if there will be an iPhone 15 Plus next year given how the 14 Plus does not appear to have been well received.
 
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These arguments make no sense. You do realize the phones you owned before upgrading still have value, right? Or do you just toss them in the trash?
That’s true - but new phones also have a cost, and old phones depreciate. So even if the number isn’t accurate - he’s saving money.
 
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I really don't get why iPhones should have haptic buttons. Sure those can improve water resistance but are there any other good benefits to them? I just see them as an unnecessary feature that just drains the battery. A more important area of improvement would be cold resistance since iPhones will die very quickly when temperatures go under -10 Celcius.

Also, if iPhones were to get haptic buttons, does that mean the buttons will only work when human skin touches them? So you could not adjust a volume, for example, without taking gloves off?
 
the only one of these I care about missing out on is high speed USB-C, otherwise

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The only thing that in my mind justified to call a phone "Pro" was a Super Retina OLED display, when the normal phone still had a Liquid Retina LCD display. That was last the case with the iPhone 11 in 2019. But since then, for what do you need an iPhone Pro really?
 
As much as I would like increased optical zoom, I just won't go back to the Pro Max size. Had it for 3 straight years and I can't deal with it anymore. The size of the 14 Pro is the biggest I will go. If I miss out on features, I'll be disappointed, but I'm not going to bite. I fully recognize that with more size comes more room for hardware features, and with more size comes a higher price that they want to justify with features, but it's been fine for the last 3 editions to have feature parity across the Pro models. Why go back to pushing users toward the Max? Oh that's right, because this is the way Tim Cook's Apple operates.
 
Nothing particularly exciting.
Least of all USB-C. Yeah it will be nice whatever to start doing away with Lightning cables, but I can't get rid of them altogether. It's going to be a long, long time before my kids phones are ever updated to something without Lightning. Also going to be a long time before I replace my keyboard and trackpad just because a USB-C version comes out. etc. etc.
 
Its amazing how much money I have saved skipping all these non-essential upgrades since the iPhone X.
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Lmao. And while you've saved a measly 6K over 5 years, I've been having experiences and taken incredible photos thanks to each year's camera leaps, and so many other things. Oh and since I never paid full price for any of these phones, it's been more like 3k over 5 years. Yawn. Wouldn't trade it.
 
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I for one want to buy the iPhone Centris 675AV SE that still includes a Home Button with TouchID and 512GB storage next year.

I'm not the only one?

There are literally dozens of us! Dozens!*

But, seriously though.. shut up and take my money.

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*I'm making fun of myself here.. But I do have a non-small number of customers who will likely stop buying iPhones when there's no Home Button version available. Yes, this skews older, but a few are younger than me, in their 30s.. Most would gladly pay more for a Home Button iPhone with better features (better cameras, more storage, etc) Now, if Apple continues to make an SE but doesn't make a single phone that these customers want? The Performa/LC575-style product line really stops making any sense?

Actually, the home button takes a lot of space at the expense of the screen size.

Would you be ok if Apple made the bottom part of the screen clickable with haptic feedback to simulate the home button? That could be a solution that satisfies both worlds. I'd like that too, because there are too many gestures now...
 
This my take on it:
1. iPhone 13 Pro was great, 14 Pro is great too, but no practical difference with vs 13
2. more ram, faster chip - how can I even notice it? Since many generations it is all smooth for what I am doing
3. USB-C is nice, but an enforced standard finally

Now…adding camera improvement to Max only is a bummer. I hate the size of Max. I can pay more for advanced features, but keep the size I like
My camera on the 13pro max was far better than what I have on my 14 pro max, even after the replacement. Indoor zoom 14x 5 feet away
 

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My day is boring, so I will post a reply. For everyone who wonders why Apple releases new products every year, and then complains that the new version is not shiny enough to replace a 12 month old phone...do you live in a bubble? Auto makers, bicycle makers, shoe makers, and probably 5000 other manufacturers release new products every year. Guess what, this doesn't mean you need to buy the new one. Imagine if we whined that GM made "a 2023 truck" that really, isn't that much different than the 2022 truck?

The fact is, the process of improving any hardware device never stops. Each year's new model is simply the advances in technology that could realized and packaged in time for the designated release cycle. Apple has an iPhone release cycle that coincides with Christmas, which, is probably not the dumbest idea in the world.

Every year there is 1) A whole new set of people whose parents have deemed are now old enough to get a [first phone|first expensive phone], 2) a set of people who have now had a phone for 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 5 years, etc. 3) a set of people whose current phone has now reached the end of its update cycle.

And, yes, each year there is a set of people who want the new phone, what ever it is. Good for this group, who can easily afford $1400 or so every year on an iPhone, and also who want the most recent tech no matter what -- but, this group represents probably 0.1% of the Apple market -- I know plenty of people who could get a new phone every month, financially, but have phones that are 4-5 revisions old.

The only REAL difference with the 15 is the USB-C replacement of lightning. This means Apple will quickly ramp down the production of its own lightning cables (which, are the best, some 3rd party ones are ok, most many suck). There will be lightning to USB-C adapters (I have a few USB-2 to USB-C adapters -- shape, not speed).

And, as far as the USB-C difference, Apple was pretty much forced to use USB-C, by the EU. USB-C as a "shape" is just as good as lightning -- no right way or wrong way to insert, and no crappily made connectors and ports that tend to break. 99% of the iPhone world only sees USB-C as plug shape, so, the fact that Apple can support a basic port that can do charging, data transfer, and maybe support a headset (??), why not go cheap. The OTHER part of USB-C, ability to run an HD Video screen, send data at a screamingly fast rate, etc...again, lost to the vast majority of the users. For those that know why this is important, or who actually have a reason to have this, are probably buying the Pro anyway. Don't whine about the phones being too expensive and then whine about Apple making decent decisions that reduce the cost of the "non Pro" version in the same breath.

And, finally, Pro versus Max. I agree..I don't get it. Pick a phone size -- seems to me there is a market for 3: SE size, standard size, and a larger size (I like the standard, larger sizes are too big for my hands, and bulky to carry around without a laptop bag, and SE seems too small for me to see, even with my readers). It really is all about Goldilocks and those bears. Then, pick a feature set. I think for SE, standard features. The 2 larger sizes have standard features and Pro features. Call it a day. There is an argument for an SE "Pro" -- but, I actually think that the "standard" size of the phone tends to be the minimum size of the phone that is large enough to house all of the Pro features (guessing).

That is my rant. Have a good weekend!
 
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Yeah...maybe the Verge is right. Maybe iPhone updates should stop being annual and be every two years. It's getting harder and harder to justify buying new phones.
But not if you buy every 3 years. With a 2 year release cycle, someone who buys every 3 years finds themselves without a new phone to upgrade to for another year. If you want to stop upgrading every year, you can totally do that even now. 😊
 
I’m still using an iPhone XR. I’ll upgrade to a iPhone 15 if Apple has dropped the lightening port.
 
Its amazing how much money I have saved skipping all these non-essential upgrades since the iPhone X.
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eh. upgrading every year is easy. you just sell your phone before the new one comes out (or after).

I pay maybe an extra $100-$200 every year since the proceeds from sale doesn't always cover the new device. which is only a few hundred since the iPhone X. :)
 
Suunds ike its the iPhone 15 Ultra for me! Need those faster USB-C speeds and the periscope camera.
 
But not if you buy every 3 years. With a 2 year release cycle, someone who buys every 3 years finds themselves without a new phone to upgrade to for another year. If you want to stop upgrading every year, you can totally do that even now. 😊

tbh you don't even need a three year cycle. I was on an iPhone 7 plus for five years before upgrading to a 13 Pro last year.
 
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