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FFS. Can we give this a rest?
How exactly does it affect YOUR life if other people choose to buy less RAM?

There's something utterly pathological about this ongoing demand, this belief that you, a single individual, are the best person to decide on a technical issue for everyone else in the world, in spit of knowing nothing of their circumstances.
Yes I can see having those choices above base, but all raising base will do is raise the prices even more, making it even harder to enter the Macbook Ecosystem.
 
Excellent news. Now please increase the base RAM on M3 Macs to 16 gigabytes.
Never understood why y'all whine about base RAM. Just get the available RAM upgrades; some users can get by with less cost for less RAM. If y'all just want to spend less, say that.

My whine is the opposite, usually looking for more available RAM at the top end. The $400 I spend to add each +32 GB in an M2 MBP is about what I spent in the past when we were adding MBs not GBs.
 
Prolly he's taking a lot of photos in RAW? Then, the phone's battery life will indeed be abysmal even with everything iCloud / Siri-related disabled.
Or a PEBKAC problem of leaving the phone in Photo mode long after taking a photo. One needs to get in the habit of clicking the phone off after photos or the battery discharges.
 
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I doubt the vast majority would even the difference in performance of say a 12 Pro to a 15 Pro in day to day usage.

It’s great that they do get better but Apple really needs to focus on other things -

- Pro phones are absolute porkers. They are too heavy and get heavier every year.

- Battery life isn’t the best in class any more.

- if the Cameras got any more stuck out , I will need a separate cover for them.

- Even low end Androids have atleast 90hz refresh rates and have for a while. The base iPhones are still stuck at 60.

- Dynamic island wasn’t the killer feature I thought it could be and to be honest I’d just rather lose the notch.
 
it means more people can get by with the base model and for those who need it, don’t have to spend a whopping $200 to just go from 8 to 16. plus the machine remains usable for longer.

not everyone upgrades every year. some of us keep our stuff for 5 to 10 years.


as an aside, in the PC world, i can add 32gb 3200mhz ram for less than $100. apple charged $200 in the intel imac for an extra 8gb of 2666 mhz ram.
Sorry but I see no need for lowest-need purchasers to pay more base price just so "more people can get by with the base model." Anyone who wants more can just order it. Frankly I think the whiners just want cheaper phones, more for less, etc.

Personally I use my phone heavily and always buy a loaded phone, but if I was buying a phone for my mother, for instance, I would not want to be paying more for more than the absolute minimum RAM necessary.
 
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I'm really excited for the iPhone 15 Pro Max (or Ultra), much more than I was last year or the year before around the same time. Titanium, new design, USB-C... Finally an iPhone that worth waiting for.
If they somehow ended up releasing a mini pro with all that it’d be an instant day zero buy for me, until then I guess I’ll stick with my 13 mini. Not everyone wants a massive phone :/
 
Sorry but I see no need for lowest-need purchasers to pay more base price just so "more people can get by with the base model." Anyone who wants more can just order it. Frankly I think the whiners just want cheaper phones, more for less, etc.

Personally I use my phone heavily and always buy a loaded phone, but if I was buying a phone for my mother, for instance, I would not want to be paying more for more than the absolute minimum RAM necessary.
Both NAND and DRAM prices are in an absolute free fall yet apple still charges upgrades at ~2012 pricing. Are you saying you're ok with that?

With iphones, would you be ok with 16 gb base storage? When that used to be a thing, the 16gb phones sure didn't seem that much cheaper compared to the ones that came with 64gb. any cost increase by upping the base model in storage/RAM isn't going to be a dealbreaker for apple - especially with the market crashing.

With things like RAM and storage, it really is a more for less world. With the base model increased, that $400 upgrade you spend to get +32gb suddenly gets you +64gb instead. Everyone benefits.

Edit: just want to clarify that the base model can be 8gb like you said IF the upgrade pricing wasn't so expensive for computers. Since apple will never do that, upping the base model itself seems like the best way.
 
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A working Siri and better battery please + BASIC dial pad that allows to edit a mistyped number, c’mmon!!!!. Does anyone uses the phone app at Apple, AT ALL???!!!
 
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Hope they fix the trash post-processing software. Never once have I thought "Man I could really use more ram" Whereas the camera software leaves much to be desired.
 
I will definitely be upgrading my 13 Pro to a 15 Pro Max. I want the bigger display and better battery life. Some hospitals I am in have Wifi that for whatever reason drains my battery.
 
it means more people can get by with the base model and for those who need it, don’t have to spend a whopping $200 to just go from 8 to 16. plus the machine remains usable for longer.

not everyone upgrades every year. some of us keep our stuff for 5 to 10 years.

I bought the entry M1 MBA in 2020 and I expect to be able to use it for at least 5 years. If people are editing multiple 4k streams on a regular basis, it makes sense that they opt for the pro Macs, rather than try to scrape by on the base model.

Purposely buying a model you know to be inadequate for your needs, then complaining about it, just comes across as penny-wise, pound foolish, IMO.
 
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I bought the entry M1 MBA in 2020 and I expect to be able to use it for at least 5 years. If people are editing multiple 4k streams on a regular basis, it makes sense that they opt for the pro Macs, rather than try to scrape by on the base model.

Purposely buying a model you know to be inadequate for your needs, then complaining about it, just comes across as penny-wise, pound foolish, IMO.
Except the "pro" macs also start at 8gb. For the Air, it makes sense since that's a consumer oriented machine and is priced accordingly.

Anyways just making an observation comparing what apple charged for their intel macs running the same RAM sticks found in some computer shop (to keep things fair). The whole thing is irrelevant to me personally due to a lack of windows support among others.
 
Except the "pro" macs also start at 8gb. For the Air, it makes sense since that's a consumer oriented machine and is priced accordingly.

Anyways just making an observation comparing what apple charged for their intel macs running the same RAM sticks found in some computer shop (to keep things fair). The whole thing is irrelevant to me personally due to a lack of windows support among others.
The 14 / 16 inch MBPs start at 16gb ram, as does the Mac mini M2 Pro. The Mac Studio comes with 32gb base ram. I wouldn't count the 13" MBP as part of this.

Likewise, we have not been able to upgrade the ram in our laptops for a while (I think Apple started soldering ram onto their MBAs since 2011).

It is what it is.
 
Does it? Sorry, I must have missed a menu somewhere on the online Apple Store. Could you point me the foldable iPhones and USB-C phones etc. Thanks!
It also says a lot when folding phones have not really taken off.

Meanwhile, the industry has removed headphone jacks, expandable storage, removable batteries, charging bricks, embraced the notch, and even Samsung is starting to one-up Apple by copy-righting their OLED screens.

It's hard to look at the state of the smartphone market today and deny that Apple has had a strong influence on where it currently is today.
 
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No pwm solution, no sale. I can keep my old phone for much longer than Apple can withhold the latest tech. I don't need to keep upgrading, Apple does.

Time for Apple and others, to make devices with human biology/health safety in mind.
 
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why not, works nicely on Android
It's ... doesn't actually work that nicely. And I'm an Android user. The phone screen is too small for any meaningful split screen mode. Split screen imo starts being useful once you are at 8" or higher screen size, or if you have tall aspect ratios like the Sony phones. On normal phones, you won't have enough room for the content, and it's worse when you invoke the keyboard.
 
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Never understood why y'all whine about base RAM. Just get the available RAM upgrades; some users can get by with less cost for less RAM. If y'all just want to spend less, say that.

My whine is the opposite, usually looking for more available RAM at the top end. The $400 I spend to add each +32 GB in an M2 MBP is about what I spent in the past when we were adding MBs not GBs.
The problem is, in some markets like my country, we don't have BTOs. All that we have are the preconfigured models, and Apple doesn't put 16GB RAM on any preconfigured MacBook Air and iMac. Add on the 30% markup, it gets ridiculous.
 
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