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Just like I said myself already in my previous post here https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...usb-2-0-transfer-speeds.2399491/post-32402860

Anyway, do you really want to compare budget Android phones from Chinese manufacturers with Apple Pro and Ultra devices, which should be state of the art and which are on totally different level price-wise? And if you want to compare to higher tier Android phone's - they have USB 3.1 already https://www.epey.co.uk/phone/usb-version/3-1-gen-1-usb-3-0/

So the joke's on you (and Apple, still)...
The Pro and Ultra models are rumored to potentially come with THUNDERBOLT. So I guess the joke is on you...
 
You must have a nice upload. I was transfering 10gb+ 4k video files a couple weeks ago and it would take ages to upload then redownload.
Also need to have good data allowances too. Mine is unlimited but most in the UK are not and data allowances here are getting expensive. We can be looking at £20+ a month for 25GB allowances (SIM Only).
 
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The Pro and Ultra models are rumored to potentially come with THUNDERBOLT. So I guess the joke is on you...
But they'll maybe come with USB 2.0 cable. We don't know whether the Pro and Ultra is going to come with different USB cable. I rather believe they'll all come with basic USB 2.0 cable and you'll have to buy another one if you want to use thunderbolt speeds.

Also do you consider iPhone 15 (non-Pro) to be budget phone comparable with ~200 USD Chinese Android phones? Really?
 
It's worth noting that thunderbolt cables are quite a bit more expensive to manufacture if you want cables that are longer than about half a meter or so. They have to make them optical if they want to support full speeds on the standard 1 or 2 meter size cables.

Because Apple isn't likely to be packaging 0.5 meter cables with the iPhones, they're probably going to stick with non-thunderbolt cables even on devices that support it. I'd still rather at least get USB3 support on the included cable, but sadly it's not unusual for it not to be supported on the charging cables that come with devices.
 
Other than DFU/recovery, is there anyone that still uses the cable for data transfer?

I transferred via AirDrop 90GB of photos and videos from iPhone 14 Pro Max 256GB to iPhone 11 Pro Max 512GB and it took about 30 minutes to complete...
I regularly use Filmic Pro and Firstlight which both yield larger file size videos and photos, yet still maybe use a cable for data transfer twice a year.

Sure I’d love the cable to support higher speeds but I have plenty of other cables that will do that. And if the phone itself is limited-Ok, then. At least I can stop buying two types of cables from here on out.
 
You must have a nice upload. I was transferring a several 10gb+ 4k video files a couple weeks ago and it would take ages to upload then redownload. I also needed to copy them to a Windows PC (that wasn't my own), so I would have to wait for them to sync to Mac, then copy them to the PC.

No thanks. I'll plug in.
You all keep upping the requirements here. We went from shooting video to 4K video to 10GB+ 4K video files to 10GB+ 4K files on someone else's computer. :)

All I said is that I shoot more video than the average person, don't use cables for data transfer, and almost never have to wait for the videos to transfer. It works for me.

If you prefer to use cables in your workflow, good for you!

How long did the 10GB file take to upload to the cloud in your situation? At average 4G speeds, it should take around 60-90 minutes. Obviously much faster with wifi or 5G. Hardly "ages". But, of course, if you are in a bad service area this may not work for you.
 
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Serious question... who is actually transferring anything to and from their phone these days?
 
480Mbps not 480MBps (480MB/s)

480Megabits per second is 60Megabytes per second

Other than DFU/recovery, is there anyone that still uses the cable for data transfer?

I transferred via AirDrop 90GB of photos and videos from iPhone 14 Pro Max 256GB to iPhone 11 Pro Max 512GB and it took about 30 minutes to complete...

I am not sure if that is within the acceptable range based on the hardware of the two iPhones but with that convenience, I can't really say if I am greatly impacted by Apple limiting the data transfer to USB 2.0 or 480Mbps

I use a Mac but I regularly transfer large video files to a PC. Airdrop isn't an option.

You all keep upping the requirements here. We went from shooting video to 4K video to 10GB+ 4K video files to 10GB+ 4K files on someone else's computer. :)

All I said is that I shoot more video than the average person, don't use cables for data transfer, and almost never have to wait for the videos to transfer. It works for me.

If you prefer to use cables in your workflow, good for you!

How long did the 10GB file take to upload to the cloud in your situation? At average 4G speeds, it should take 20-30 minutes. Obviously much faster with wifi or 5G. Hardly "ages". But, of course, if you are in a bad service area this may not work for you.

I get around 60mbit up and down on wireless, at home when outside, but my home internet connection is 25mbit. These were going to my girlfriend's computer (she uses PC and Android), and her home connection isn't great as it's DSL. I also don't have unlimited data on my cell, other than on my work iPhone.

The biggest kicker, for me, is that if you aren't transferring to a Mac, then it's a problem. Lots of iPhone users use a PC. My brother and his wife, for example, only use Windows but both have iPhones.
 
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Serious question... who is actually transferring anything to and from their phone these days?
I do. Serious answer. When I'm abroad in a hotel with TV with USB input, I download some movies or TV series from my home storage server and put it on the flash drive to play it in the hotel TV.

Yep, not all of them support AirPlay at all.

I'm also using it when pulling data from my dashcam on the go.
 
Feels good to be true! ⚡️

It looks Apple has actually tested a Thunderbolt cable for the iPhone 15 Pro and it might be released exclusively for the Pro models.

Here are some details
USB4 Data Cable Engineering Cable
Length 70 cm
Protocol USB 4 gen 2
Rate 20g
Support 4k 60hz
Power 150w

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Credit: Majin Bu
 
support "at least" USB 3.2 or
Which version? This isn't really a thing per se. There is the original USB 3.0, once also called USB 3.1 Gen 1, and now USB 3.2 Gen 1. Then there's the previous USB 3.1 Gen 2, now named USB 3.2 Gen 2. Finally, there is the latest (in this series, ignoring USB4) USB 3.2 Gen 2x2, which the previous two receiving their latest names upon the release of this standard. Respectively, this gives to 5 Gbps, 10 Gbps, or 20 Gbps ... and a bunch of confusion, likely including from whoever wrote this. :)

Any of these would be an improvement over the 480 Mbps from USB 2.0, I suppose (and yes, some people still use wired connections). But how much will depend on the exact "USB 3.2" we're talking about.
 
Disgusting if true. USB 3 (5Gbps) standard was released in 2008. We should stop calling iPhones as cutting edge devices and youtube fairies need to call out Apple on this.
i wonder if iJustine would call apple on this which i doubt she will.....
MKHBD i'm sure he will.
 
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And people will still stand in line on these smh
this is why i'm opting on not buying another iphone because as a consumer this is an insult to me, i currently own an iphnoe 14PM and i'm so dissapointed about the rear and front camera. Waiting for the new Galaxy S24U next year
 
EU regulations is about the environment and they should have known 2.0 cables will head to the trash sooner than 3.0 cables.

If they're going to mandate something that causes an increase demand for cables by the billions, they should at least specify a minimum spec to increase the lifetime usage of newly produced cables.
As long as a cable can fast-charge a phone, it's perfectly fine for most people. This is probably why the EU has not specified a data transfer speed minimum. I'm sure they have done their homework and know that very few people would care for high data transfer speeds. I for one haven't used a cable to transfer data from/to my phone in years.
 
For me, it's totally fine. I don't even remember the last time I had to use a cable to transfer any data from/to my iPhone. For those who are transferring GBs of photos or videos, there will be (hope so) Pro versions with much higher speeds. For me, being a citizen of EU, the most important thing is to keep prices of base models as low as possible. Otherwise, I'm gonna get a Pixel and say goodbye to Apple ecosystem.
i really doubt prices will go down at this point mate.
i am or mayse should say i was a loyal fan of apple but after the dissapoinment of the iphone 14PM, Apple is no longer taking my money
 
Anyway, do you really want to compare budget Android phones from Chinese manufacturers with Apple Pro and Ultra devices, which should be state of the art and which are on totally different level price-wise?
first of all, we’re not. This entire articles about the standard 15 and 15+, both under $1000.
Also:
Nothing Phone 2: Type-C (reversible), USB 2.0, $599
OnePlus 11 5G: USB2.0, still ships with a C to A cable, $699

Asus Zenfone 10: USB 2.0, $699
These are three flagship phones from the last year, all in that same $600-800 price point as the standard 15, all restricted to 2.0 speeds.
These are not cheap phones, these are not Chinese knock offs, these are flagship Android phones that are in range of the iPhone 15, and are all the same 2.0 speeds as Lightning.
 
While it’s true many (but certainly not all) iPhone users transfer data wirelessly these days, I think what has so many people upset is the almost-exquisite level of cynicism displayed by Apple in this case and many others. And it seems to be getting worse with each update cycle. Personally, I think expecting at least USB 3.0 speeds on the base iPhone and Plus is not asking for too much. Limit the crazy-fast speeds to the Pro models, if Apple simply must.

But all of this has me wondering: Assuming the rumor that transfer speeds on the iPhone 15 and 15 Plus will be limited to USB 2.0, will it because of a limitation in the cable - or within the device itself? And if it is in the device itself, is it a hardware or software issue? And if it’s a software issue, can Apple change its mind and provide a firmware update that will boost transfer speeds?

I suspect the issue will be inside the iPhone itself. Otherwise, people will be able to buy Pro cables or aftermarket cables (that must be Apple certified). Would swapping out a cable from an iPhone Pro fix the problem? I don’t expect that it would. I can’t see Apple bothering to make two levels of cables. Too expensive from a manufacturing standpoint when you’re in the business or nickel and diming your customers.
 
2.0 in 2023, truly innovative and worth premium price.

as in all premium smartphone on the market, as Galaxy s23 ultra, Honour, Huawei, Motorola...
Actually all this are shipped with usb 2.0 cable.

Apparently, however, the iPhone 15 pro will have a TB cable and 40Gbit/s of bandwidth, far from the 5Gbit of android devices.
 
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This is disgusting. Apple doesn’t care about customers and deserves to lose even more sales so it might realise customers should not be taken for granted.
the sad part is that people (i was one of them) still line up to get this products; me for example, the iphone 14 PM was my last apple product until i see something really exciting and innovate i will consume another apple product, for now im actually waiting for the the new galaxy S24U.
 
Tim crook never failing to disappoint.
Throttle controlling cable speeds in response to having to switch to usb-c.
Excludes charging block upon new phone purchase in a claim for helping the environment.
Taking away ACMI options for sim-less phones.
Discontinuing support for older Apple products.
Gate keeping MLS streaming rights for Apple TV only.
Using the same exact design since the iPhone 12.
Their 30% revenue sharing tax for app devs
That’s just what I can recall rn anyone wish to add to the list?
a tequila shot on me for this guy right here please....
Well said mate.
 
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