I'm totally not surprised that Apple is going this route! I don't think the EU will happy by this decision at all though.
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iPhone 15 USB-C Cables Without MFi Badge May Have Data Transfer and Charging Speed Limits
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Not sure the EU will care as long as Apple meets their legal obligations?
You don’t understand what USB-C compatibility means. A cable with a USB-C connector with USB 2.0 speeds *is* within spec.
I think you’re correct. I think the EU did not mandate minimum charging or data transfer speeds.
They did mandate minimum charging standard. It’s known as USB Power delivery 3.0 as mandatory supported standard alongside whatever proprietary standards the manufacturer have.
Example Samsung having their special standard that works with their cables or charging bricks, and if you use anything else that doesn’t support it will then fallback on USB PD 3.0
And now, after years of transferring things to the cloud, all of the sudden everyone and their mother needs to use USB to do that....
I don’t care because the way I see it paying the certification means the cable likely isn’t junk. Almost every non-certified (or whatever it’s called) cable for iPhone I’ve bought has been trash. This seems to at least force some sort of accountability. I doubt it’s perfect but at least it weeds out the serious companies from the cheap crap being imported from junk factories.
Also the EU can blow it out their ports. Them telling companies what ports to use is nuts.
Also the EU can blow it out their ports. Them telling companies what ports to use is nuts.
Unlikely this rumor have any truth to it anyway. All apple iPhones use USB PD as the fast charging method or their fast charging power bricks.
i prefer the MFi certification but apple really needs to up the quality of there first party devices and accessories.
for example, things like airpods pros and apple usb-c cables are equally bad in quality and even sometimes worse than 3rd party ones.
for example, things like airpods pros and apple usb-c cables are equally bad in quality and even sometimes worse than 3rd party ones.
Could go either way, iPads already support faster charging through USB-C cables including non-MFI cables.
However, iPhone do limit wireless charging to 7.5W for non-magsafe induction chargers.
However, iPhone do limit wireless charging to 7.5W for non-magsafe induction chargers.
Smell test... okay I had it happen personally to a Switch. Had two coworkers fry Samsung phones. One fried two of his kids Chromebooks.
https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/3/10905432/usb-c-cable-fries-google-engineers-computer
There is a heavily documented article about the Google engineer that proves cables/adapters can fry devices from 2015 onward.
It's now turned into a whole website tracking cables:
USB-C Compliant Cables - Nexus 6p, Nexus 5x, and OnePlus 2 USB Cables
Find USB Cables for your Nexus 6p, Nexus 5x, and OnePlus 2.
usbccompliant.com
Just google fried USB C and Macbook and you see looks like Macbooks like to do the frying (they damage the plugged in device).
I do always enjoy the never happened to me crowd. It keeps the status quo. You're holding the phone/charger/cable wrong right?
I stick to what I said. Type-C is a "standard" that carries friable amounts of power and assumes everything is talking the same spec. It's never 100% the case. Some devices handle this better than others. I have no issue with additional safeguards and I hope they do add it across the board.
Whoever made this decision has “chief officer” in their job title and isn’t going anywhere.
Apple is so pro environment, throw out all of your perfectly good cables cause we didn’t make any profit off them
Blame the EU, they are the ones forcing apple to change to USBC and causing that waste.
So one we don't know what will happen, but two you guys are all wrong because I know exactly what will happen?
EU rules state all devices that support fast charging will now have the same charging speed
Well the last time I checked it was the EUs role to regulate products sold within the EU single market. I'm pretty sure neither Apple nor random MacRumors users get to define what the EU's remit is in this regard or when it has overstepped it.
I would assume if Apple had serious concerns with this and its legal department saw a genuine case they would play hardball and try to escalate this to the Court of Justice of the EU.
Not quite... two - a lot of the outrage about charging slow is invalidated because the EU mandates PD and iPhone already supports PD.
Based on iPads & iPhones supporting PD and MacBooks supporting PD and the EU requiring it, logically it's probably safe to assume iPhones will continue to support PD on USB C.
That's what my two was focused at.
Who knows about data transfer speeds. Those on iPhone have always been really poor.
I can't quite believe this rumor yet. I already have two original USB-C Apple cables and two more from other vendors. They all work perfectly fine charging my iPad and also my MacBook (up to 30 Watts). This would mean I'd have to replace all the cables?
Why did anyone think that Apple would do anything even remotely pro-consumer?
That is a reasonable argument and I agree let's wait and see, but it still doesn't "invalidate" anything if your very first argument is that we don't know what will happen. Those two just don't go together.
It takes about 10 seconds to copy a 1GB file over AirDrop. A wired connection, at iPhone USB speeds, is about 40 seconds. iPhones don't do 40gbps.
(I just tested to get those numbers)
Plus also takes like a minute for my iPhone to load in Finder after I connect the cable and click on it. And you can't copy from a Mac to or from the Files app on an iPhone. You need to copy via a third party app that allows access to files over USB. Which means you need to launch that app app on your phone to and copy the file to the Files app.
AirDrop is absolutely faster than a cable right now. it shouldn't be, but it is. Unfortunately, AirDrop doesn't always work. Sigh.
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So hold on the cable that comes with my MacBook Pro won’t be able to charge the iPhone at full speed?