Ya. I'm curious as to how it will work on my 1st gen iPhone. Either way though, I'm getting a 3GS very soon.
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Ya. I'm curious as to how it will work on my 1st gen iPhone. Either way though, I'm getting a 3GS very soon.
Heck, so would I! Glad you're at least aware of the potential reality though... Saw some others on the other forum claiming they were "scheduled for delivery today"... RIGHT.
Wait what?
Are you sure? If that's the actual case, that's amazig! Thanks for ponying that out!
This again?This, again?
2-year contract, you signed it. iPhone 3G bought with subsidized pricing, you did it. AT&T has a lot of things wrong when it comes to the iPhone, but not letting you upgrade to the iPhone 3G S isn't one of those things. ANY OTHER phone you buy from AT&T does not let you upgrade earlier than your 2-year contract allows. Why should AT&T have to take a bath on your subsidy being paid back so that you can have the "latest and greatest"?
Like I said, AT&T's not always right, but in this case, they are 100%.
I registered specifically to address this line of thinking--as AT&T is 100% wrong.
AT&T should cater to its enthusiast base, and figure out how to adapt to that which is a unique opportunity: being the exclusive US carrier of the iPhone.
Apple is on record as saying the iPhone will be a "summer event". There is clearly room for interpretation as to exactly what this means, but I, and others, expect an annual hardware revision.
Show me another device with an expected annual refresh of its hardware.
I was in line the day the iPhone 3G was released and I discussed the upgrade issue at that time with others in line. I hoped that AT&T would figure it out in the coming months. AT&T did not.
Part of the problem is "upgrade eligibility". It is not defined. You may be eligible for an upgrade 12-24 months into your contract. There is ample speculation on the contributing factors: length of service with AT&T (and its previous incarnations); monthly service bill; family vs. individual plan; number of iPhones on a family plan; credit and/or bill pay history.
One factor OUGHT to be considered: early adopter.
I recognize that the contract I sign with AT&T is for the service it renders, and I am beholden to its service for the duration of the contract, else I face an early termination fee. As such, AT&T knows my monthly bill minimum, and has reason to believe that I will continue to pay per my current level of service. That subscription fee ($240/mo), and the fact that I am a current subscriber, is what is of value to AT&T.
If the subsidy needs to be reworked, then do it. If the price paid to Apple needs to be modified, then do it. But, as some first-day subscribers are eligible for an upgrade on July 12, 2009, it is ludicrous to deny a service resubscription to the most adamant followers of a device. "Upgrade eligibility" is already a loose term; flex it to allow upgrade pricing for early adopters.
Doing so would demonstrate AT&T's commitment to the Apple/AT&T relationship, and people would be happy. Happy subscribers, and subscriber retention, is far more important than a slight hardware subsidy.
AT&T looked poor after a fine WWDC. The opportunity was there, and AT&T did not deliver with MMS or tethering. Granted, the partnership is on rocky terms, and each side is attempting to wield whatever power it may have, but the result of the tension alienates the enthusiast. And that's bad business.
I'm pretty disappointed. I shell out $120+ a month for service with AT&T, but I'm not eligible for an upgrade until March 2010... otherwise, it's going to cost me $599 to get the new iPhone... I wish Apple had made it so iPhone could be used on any carrier
This isn't correct. You can get it for $399 if you re-up your two-year contract.
so confused, should i stay on my contract unlocked in australia for another year with my 3G or should i upgrade, unlock the 3gs and then sell it unlocked to all those poor At&t users in the US... for $1500au
Oh man, what is wrong with this guy? The video is crap! It showed nothing interesting at all.
Obviously anyone that is even remotely interested in the new iPhone 3GS wants to see how fast it loads and renders web pages over WiFi! Similarly, they want to see how fast Safari is at zooming, panning, and scrolling!
Not to mention where is the speed comparison to the iPhone 3G?
Obviously anyone that is even remotely interested in the new iPhone 3GS wants to see how fast it loads and renders web pages over WiFi! Similarly, they want to see how fast Safari is at zooming, panning, and scrolling!
Not to mention where is the speed comparison to the iPhone 3G?
Yeah apparently the 9th = still in progress ... I'll bet the others ordered the 8th... I just was so sick of how long the site was taking on the 8th that I waited till the 9th...
Actually, if you got the iPhone 3G when it first came out, it may be cheaper to just cancel your AT&T contract. The pro-rated ETF fee should be about $100, and then you can get the iPhone at $199. ~$300 total instead of paying $399 for upgrade.
You're joking, right?
It isn't that I disagree with you. I just think you should get over it.
You got a discounted price for a reason, and you (should've) understood the terms of your contract. Whether you were the first person to ever own an iPhone or the last person to buy one, matters not.
Pay full price for your new phone and move on.
A hundred percent sure
You can see it in the video. It is exactly the same baseband version as on the 3g. But as some other guy pointed out, that doesn't mean anything at all, cuz of the hardware issue.As much as I hate AT&T, I support them on this issue. They are not in the wrong. This is how they want to conduct business. It is their decision.
What would they gain by allowing early iPhone adopters to upgrade at a lower price? Nothing. These customers are already providing revenue from monthly subscriptions and giving them further subsidies (which is unfair to users of other phones btw) would lower their profitability. There is no benefit to them offering this.
Now in Hong Kong
Finally has moved from China to Hong Kong... 2 days can't come fast enough!
CHEK LAP KOK, HK 06/16/2009 11:14 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
06/16/2009 7:49 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
SHENZHEN, CN 06/15/2009 7:45 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
CN 06/16/2009 1:10 A.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED
Finally has moved from China to Hong Kong... 2 days can't come fast enough!
CHEK LAP KOK, HK 06/16/2009 11:14 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
06/16/2009 7:49 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
SHENZHEN, CN 06/15/2009 7:45 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
CN 06/16/2009 1:10 A.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED
this is such bull crap i havent even gotten my shipment email yet and a firend of mine says that his will get to his house tomorrow and he orderd his phone 2 days after i did.
Excellent point about Apple's now annual summer event of the iPhone and that to avoid the AT&T hate they should offer it only on a 1 year commitment. This would avoid some if not most of the public outlash from the enthusiasts.
Wow, you registered just to post that garbage?
First off, you are not an early adopter. You waited for the 2nd revision of the phone, so you are not even close to an early adopter. Early adopter would be someone like myself, who sight unseen got an iPhone based on my belief that Apple would put out a great product because the previews and their history seemed to lead me to believe that was the case. I bought it the first week, and my 2 years is up.
You all think that you should get some special deal is absurd. AT&T and Apple are in this to make money. If you buy a phone subsidized, then you have to re-pay that committment. They can't let you just keep extending it as there is a max term fee. Otherwise people would just get like a 10 year committment and then terminate.
Stop crying and buy the phone if you want it now, otherwise wait. I don't love AT&T, but they are in this to make money, as any good company should be. Companies make money, people keep their jobs, we get the service we desire for the products we desire, etc.
We ship hardware with UPS all the time, they don't have a control system once its out unless you call for each package and even then it's a crapshoot. If anything it would cost apple more money to force a stop. I think there's a good chance you'll get your as stated.
EDIT: You want it bad enough, you can go to the UPS shipping depot once it arrives at your city and give them the tracking number before it gets on a truck.
I'm fairly certain that Apple has enough pull with UPS that if they told UPS to hold delivery until a specified day, they would not have to pay a penny.
Pardon me, but, ATT should cater to it’s enthusiast base... Only if it can be done at a profit.
I guarantee you that if you ran ATT, you would want your customers to complete the terms of their contracts. ATT is not a non-profit corporation. It is in business to make money. Granted, ATT is not the best carrier in America. It is not even particularly responsive to new technologies presented by Apple... as seen at WWDC. I imagine that Apple is pretty steamed at ATT. However, ATT does have a reasonable (and legal) expectation to think their customers will honor their contracts.
No one forced you to sign the service contract. You are free to complete the terms of your contract... then move along as you see fit.
Are you sure it was your "lower lower back" that was in pain? And what college did you go to? Elton John's School of HARD KNOCKS?
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Well said! I also am a 1st Gen owner....waited in line for 6 hours on June 29th 2007 to get that iPhone. The touch screen stopped working about 2 months ago so have eagerly been awaiting the new phone.
People will never be happy! The alternative to the "subsidy" issue is to sell the phone unsubsidized (like the original iPhone) at $600. But guess what then people will complain it's too expensive! People expect everything for nothing and that's the problem with today's society and a likely reason why the economy is in the *******. People don't want to have to work for anything anymore and god forbid if a company doesn't bend over backwards to give them a device for cheaper than they deserve.
Chat with Online AT&T Guy
I ordered mine on the 13th and this is what "james" told me:
James S.: Pre-orders for iPhone 3G S will be shipped with overnight priority and will be processed to arrive as early as June 19th, 2009 if submitted by noon CT on June 17th, 2009. *The actual shipment date and receipt of your order is not guaranteed and may be subject to delays for reasons that include, but are not limited to, product availability, inventory, credit issues, number porting or carrier delays, and completion of other required AT&T business processes. *Additional items added to the cart at the time of your pre-order may ship separately if inventory is already available. *All pre-orders taken online are being handled on a first-come, first-serve basis.
I ordered mine on the 13th and this is what "james" told me:
James S.: Pre-orders for iPhone 3G S will be shipped with overnight priority and will be processed to arrive as early as June 19th, 2009 if submitted by noon CT on June 17th, 2009. *The actual shipment date and receipt of your order is not guaranteed and may be subject to delays for reasons that include, but are not limited to, product availability, inventory, credit issues, number porting or carrier delays, and completion of other required AT&T business processes. *Additional items added to the cart at the time of your pre-order may ship separately if inventory is already available. *All pre-orders taken online are being handled on a first-come, first-serve basis.