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I'm running 3.0 on my 3G right now, and it is no way as fast as in the video. When I open settings or the voice memo app, there's definitely a much longer dely than in this video.

Same here. OS3 seems slower on my 3G than 2.2.1 was. Probably gonna do a restore tomorrow.

That 3GS is wicked fast with opening stuff.
 
Would be good to see how the screen compares to the 3G, if the new thingy on the screen has affected the colours/clarity. I'll get mine on Friday but some pics tomorrow would be good from you lucky people!
 
Yah! Mine now says "prepared for shipment". Hopefully it will actually ship today. :)
 
OK - my status just started showing up as "Prepared for Shipment"! Please let it ship today!!!! Still says it ships on the 19th, but I no longer believe that.
 
This again?

I registered specifically to address this line of thinking--as AT&T is 100% wrong.

AT&T should cater to its enthusiast base, and figure out how to adapt to that which is a unique opportunity: being the exclusive US carrier of the iPhone.

Apple is on record as saying the iPhone will be a "summer event". There is clearly room for interpretation as to exactly what this means, but I, and others, expect an annual hardware revision.

Show me another device with an expected annual refresh of its hardware.

I was in line the day the iPhone 3G was released and I discussed the upgrade issue at that time with others in line. I hoped that AT&T would figure it out in the coming months. AT&T did not.

Part of the problem is "upgrade eligibility". It is not defined. You may be eligible for an upgrade 12-24 months into your contract. There is ample speculation on the contributing factors: length of service with AT&T (and its previous incarnations); monthly service bill; family vs. individual plan; number of iPhones on a family plan; credit and/or bill pay history.

One factor OUGHT to be considered: early adopter.

I recognize that the contract I sign with AT&T is for the service it renders, and I am beholden to its service for the duration of the contract, else I face an early termination fee. As such, AT&T knows my monthly bill minimum, and has reason to believe that I will continue to pay per my current level of service. That subscription fee ($240/mo), and the fact that I am a current subscriber, is what is of value to AT&T.

If the subsidy needs to be reworked, then do it. If the price paid to Apple needs to be modified, then do it. But, as some first-day subscribers are eligible for an upgrade on July 12, 2009, it is ludicrous to deny a service resubscription to the most adamant followers of a device. "Upgrade eligibility" is already a loose term; flex it to allow upgrade pricing for early adopters.

Doing so would demonstrate AT&T's commitment to the Apple/AT&T relationship, and people would be happy. Happy subscribers, and subscriber retention, is far more important than a slight hardware subsidy.

AT&T looked poor after a fine WWDC. The opportunity was there, and AT&T did not deliver with MMS or tethering. Granted, the partnership is on rocky terms, and each side is attempting to wield whatever power it may have, but the result of the tension alienates the enthusiast. And that's bad business.

I'm not sure what the problem is. Go buy the iphone without a contract for its no contract price. Problem solved.
 
OK - my status just started showing up as "Prepared for Shipment"! Please let it ship today!!!! Still says it ships on the 19th, but I no longer believe that.

Yep just move to prepared for shipment ... my guess would be depending what region you are in is when your shipment gets ready ... I am in the NYC area
 
Double click the embedded video to go to their Youtube page. They have a second longer video clip of the 3G S. Yes, it certainly does look fast.

Mine is arriving on the 18th. I just got a UPS status update that it's now in Hong Kong. I'm assuming that's where they'll load it on a jumbo for transport to the US.
 
Excellent point about Apple's now annual summer event of the iPhone and that to avoid the AT&T hate they should offer it only on a 1 year commitment. This would avoid some if not most of the public outlash from the enthusiasts.

I can't believe how many people think that they are entitled to getting an iPhone early at the full sub price. It's silly. Anytime you get a subsidized phone you sign a contract... it's the companies way of getting the money back for the phone they subsidized! If you were to put it on a one year contract the phone would probably be $500 and then people would complain about the price.

It's important to know that it actually does cost money to give you your cell phone service and pay staff and all that stuff and before you know it, who cares if you pay $240 a month for your service, it probably costs AT&T at least $175-200 to give you that service, and they probably only make $40 a month off of you. Obviously they aren't a charity and need to take some of that in as profit, and part of it in to pay for your subsidized phone.

Before anyone... yes ANYONE... thinks that they are special enough to get a full sub iPhone a year after their contract is nuts. I dunno if anyone here knows this but they are worth about 700-800 bucks (CAD) so of course companies are going to make you sign in for a long time to earn back the $500 discount they gave you on a phone.

Obviuosly I wish it was not this way and we could all get free iPhones and sing songs around campfires everynight and never have to work a day in our lives, but it's not like that.

It is time to move on past this conversation.

P.S. Of course I don't realize the tru profit numbers, so please don't post any replies about the inaccuracies of that area. It is the principal.
 
Damn, I'm going to have to wait for an in store supply in O2 to get mine as I will be getting a discount on the tariff.

Lucky you who get it early!! :)
 
I think I'm going to have to set a timer to prevent myself from checking status too frequently. It's very distracting.
 
Envious!

Really envious of you guys/gals! I pre-ordered with AT&T on Saturday and am now being told I have to wait 7-14 days AFTER my order date of the 13th for it to even be shipped.

Makes no sense to me...oh well. I get a nice corporate discount so saving $$ is worth the extra patience (I think).

Envious of you ... start posting videos!
 
Stupid Canada and not being able to pre-order! :mad:

Oh well, I'll just ask my manager to hold a white 32GB for me, since I work for Rogers, so that I don't have to come in super early on my day off to get one. :D

Employee perks, gotta love it! lol
 
Wouldn't you expect to find an unlocked one in any of the countries that legally had to sell unlocked iPhones from the start?


On Apple's website when there is a firmware update there is just usually one for everyone. They don't usually have different firmwares for different countries so I take it by doing a firmware update or reinstall the phone would be unlocked then...??
 
Well said! I also am a 1st Gen owner....waited in line for 6 hours on June 29th 2007 to get that iPhone. The touch screen stopped working about 2 months ago so have eagerly been awaiting the new phone.

People will never be happy! The alternative to the "subsidy" issue is to sell the phone unsubsidized (like the original iPhone) at $600. But guess what then people will complain it's too expensive! People expect everything for nothing and that's the problem with today's society and a likely reason why the economy is in the *******. People don't want to have to work for anything anymore and god forbid if a company doesn't bend over backwards to give them a device for cheaper than they deserve.

Oh man, don't get me started on that, but I agree.

And for the record, before someone says it, I don't feel entitled or better because I was an early adopter, just that I have paid my time to AT&T as well as paying more initially. I will go one step further to say that I would support a program that AT&T allows you to pay off subsidies quicker if you have a higher tier plan. I find it hard to believe that poster has a $240 a month AT&T bill, unless he has like 4 lines, or some crazy high plan on multiple phones. If he does in fact pay that much, for 1 phone, then he should earn points or something, towards reducing his commitment.
 
I think UPS times are backwards. I think it left china at 7:49 PM and arrived in HK at 11:14pm. I don't think it has left HK yet.

R

You could be right. Couple things to keep in mind though:

First, the origin scan in HK at 11:14pm showed up on the tracking page first, several hours prior to the 7:49pm time stamp.

Second, the tracking page shades each location line separately, so both the "Origin @ 11:14pm" and "Departure @ 7:49pm" are both for HK.

Either way, really doesn't matter. It is on it's way, and whether it arrives tomorrow as scheduled or on Friday, doesn't matter to me.

If I was one of the ones with no shipping update yet, I'd be starting to pace back and forth like a junkie, though:)
 
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