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Still doing good here in okc

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Verizon already pushes through more data than AT&T does, so that excuse is not valid.

There's a false idea that AT&T is the nation's busiest network when it comes to data. In fact, Sprint and Verizon users use more data than AT&T, which is in third place when it comes to data consumption.

Links to validate your synopsis please. :)
 
Drop in upload speeds is a non issue. The problem is that people are assuming that their phone should have good upload speeds.
 
I talked to an AT&T rep after trading in my iPhone 4 here in MPLS 3 times and the person on the phone said there was a statewide outage with numerous "severly degraded towers" that were down for maintenance until September 2010. So, there's a time frame for you. Regardless, I think there are problems on both ends here. I have slower upload speeds, but consistent 1.0Mbps - 2.0Mbps download speeds on my 3GS while I couldn't even connect to 3G on the iPhone 4. That is a phone issue, along with the mounting list of other design problems. However, AT&T also can't handle the capacity either. Both were pointing fingers at each other on Friday, so I sent my iPhone 4 back this morning and went back to the trusty 3GS. No data problems anymore.

Is this what Steve Jobs meant when he said that things will get worse before they get better regarding "the network" at the shareholders meeting or wherever he said that?

September, huh?!

If this is the "worse" part, it would have been nice to have been informed about any major network infrastructure updating by Apple and AT&T in a joint open letter on both companies web sites, so all those new 3G AT&T iPad owners (like me) and new, as well as old timers who were allowed to upgrade to iPhone 4 (like some here), as well as all you 3GS or 3G iPhone owners, that such network degradations will be experienced. Made even more taxing with the rollout of 3 million iPads (although not all 3G) in eighty days and 600,000 iPhone 4's on the first weekend. Congestion and network degradation and no word from either company???

If that be the case, then I have to say a big...

C'mon Guys! :eek::(:mad:
 
That's about the dumbest response I've seen so far...
No offense.

That's probably what one average AT&T executive thinks too.

None taken, that was my point - mocking the phone, AT&T, and Apple's response to the problems.
 
What sort of applications exactly are people using that uploads of that scale actually matter? I can't think of any.
 
rediculous

All of the following are done downtown denver as I was walking home. Screen of location to prove it.
 

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All of the following are done downtown denver as I was walking home. Screen of location to prove it.

Mine isn't much better here in Richmond,VA. I've noticed a decline in web speeds overall since the launch of the new phone. I made it a point to notice the difference prior to the release and afterward. The largest issue that we'll all probably find out is that the video calling is draining the network.

As for my speeds:

Download: 196.5 kB/s
Upload: 30.0 kB/s

I'm using a 3GS.
 
Not an iPhone 4 issue...

Gizmodo and Macrumors are both incorrectly reporting that this is an iPhone 4 issue - it isn't. I have a 3G and I am experiencing the very same issues. It is also incorrect to say that this is upload capping - there is degradation in both download and upload speed. Here in Irvine, ca, I am getting ~150kbps down and usually less than ~50kbps, and that is (as I have stated) on an iPhone 3G.

Guys, these articles get picked up by the national media, and it really is unfair to report this as an iphone4 issue - this is almost certainly an ATT issue because there are too many users with older hardware reporting the same issues. However, anyone scanning this headline would immediately assume this is yet another iPhone 4 issue, and it's just not right to slant things that way.
 
What sort of applications exactly are people using that uploads of that scale actually matter? I can't think of any.

Actually, there are none. Well, there are none that matter. If you guessed that there are thousands upon thousands that are experiencing this AT&T data network deficiency and not a single one of them matters, you guessed correctly. The iPhone is such a wonderful, wonderful thing. Absolutely perfect in conception, design, and implementation. It keeps the annoying occupied so the otherwise annoyed can have serenity now. It is also quite humanitarian, as iPhoners will not suffer from the paralyzingly terror that arrives just before the End; supremely distracted, they will likely miss the Apocalypse entirely.
 
Actually, there are none. Well, there are none that matter. If you guessed that there are thousands upon thousands that are experiencing this AT&T data network deficiency and not a single one of them matters, you guessed correctly. The iPhone is such a wonderful, wonderful thing. Absolutely perfect in conception, design, and implementation. It keeps the annoying occupied so the otherwise annoyed can have serenity now. It is also quite humanitarian, as iPhoners will not suffer from the paralyzingly terror that arrives just before the End; supremely distracted, they will likely miss the Apocalypse entirely.
Wow, people try really hard here. You don't think there's a big difference between 90kbps and 1mbps when uploading a picture (let alone several)?
 
Has anyone had luck using skype over ipod touch?

I was considering getting an ipod touch and a verizon mifi.
 
I can see why your post was deleted. That's completely irrelevant. Make a thread in the iPod forum.

That wasn't the content of my previous post.

But thank you for your OPINION.

And the post you are responding to is certainly more relevant than your snide remark.
 
I might just buy the iPhone 4, return it and get a full refund to punish Apple not fixing this problem! :mad:

And I encourage others to do the same!

Broken phones like this shouldn´t be sold to people! This is unacceptable!
 
Indeed this is not an iPhone 4 issue.

My Nexus One couldn't get data at all on full signal last week for 4 solid days. When it came back, it's like how it's reported, upload speeds went in the toilet and my download is down about a mbit as well.

However, if I go grab a sim card out of an AT&T laptop card, and set my APN to isp.cingular, all my issues are gone, uploads back to 1.6Mbit... downloads over 2mit.

What AT&T doesn't want you to know, is when their network is under duress, it's the smarphone users that get the stick, and the data card users get priority. Guess this means what AT&T is saying to me is hey, that $30 is not enough any more, give me $60 if you want your data speeds back.

I do mean back, as in it use to work just fine.

They throttle, or prioritize, when under load, and don't put this their terms or conditions anywhere.

That's not very net nutrality to me.

If you got more priority for paying for the data card plan, they should outright tell the users.

-James
 
Indeed this is not an iPhone 4 issue.

My Nexus One couldn't get data at all on full signal last week for 4 solid days. When it came back, it's like how it's reported, upload speeds went in the toilet and my download is down about a mbit as well.

However, if I go grab a sim card out of an AT&T laptop card, and set my APN to isp.cingular, all my issues are gone, uploads back to 1.6Mbit... downloads over 2mit.

What AT&T doesn't want you to know, is when their network is under duress, it's the smarphone users that get the stick, and the data card users get priority. Guess this means what AT&T is saying to me is hey, that $30 is not enough any more, give me $60 if you want your data speeds back.

I do mean back, as in it use to work just fine.

They throttle, or prioritize, when under load, and don't put this their terms or conditions anywhere.

That's not very net nutrality to me.

If you got more priority for paying for the data card plan, they should outright tell the users.

-James

Thanks for posting that. I had previously asked whether users of other devices such as ipads or non-apple ATT phones were having problems. Unfortunately that post (along with another) was deleted from the thread.

I think non-iphone users should report upload speeds here to compare.
 
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