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What happened to your "ATT is capping" thoughts?

Still there.

I think they're capping due to network issues. You *should* cap to prevent congestion as congestion can crash the network. It's better to piss off a subset of the users (while still providing some level of service) than to have the entire thing (or entire regions) crater on everyone.

I'd agree, I don't think this is a permanent policy.

To be clear, I think they're capping to avoid problems. I'd be surprised if they capped this way going forward as a business policy.
 
I ran six Speed tests on my brand spanking new iPhone 4. The only signal I get at my house is EDGE. The average download speed was 28kbps. The average upload speed was 27kbps. If I didn't have WiFi (which works really well), I'd be hurting. One of the tests gave me a download speed of 4kbps, and the upload came in at zero.

I'm so glad I have my iPhone in a case. :rolleyes:
 
In Chicago (for me), it started to get bad on 6/25. It got progressively worse. Before that, I was getting about 2.0 Mbps down and 0.3 up on average.

On 6/28, I received my worst result: 0.13 Mbps down, 0.05 Mbps up.

At present though, I'm getting 1.80 Mbps down and 0.21 up. This was all with 4-5 bars showing too on my new 3GS 8GB rather than an iPhone 4.
 
So have other devices on the same ATT network had problems?

I mean take an iphone, an ipad, an ipod touch, and a non-apple phone all on ATT and do the upload tests physically right next to each other.
 
I talked to an AT&T rep after trading in my iPhone 4 here in MPLS 3 times and the person on the phone said there was a statewide outage with numerous "severly degraded towers" that were down for maintenance until September 2010. So, there's a time frame for you. Regardless, I think there are problems on both ends here. I have slower upload speeds, but consistent 1.0Mbps - 2.0Mbps download speeds on my 3GS while I couldn't even connect to 3G on the iPhone 4. That is a phone issue, along with the mounting list of other design problems. However, AT&T also can't handle the capacity either. Both were pointing fingers at each other on Friday, so I sent my iPhone 4 back this morning and went back to the trusty 3GS. No data problems anymore.

But the won't admit it, yet admit there is a problem.

I just walked into the downtown MPLS AT&T store, and fired up speed test and asked if this is what 3G is meant to be. The salestards (RT: @fakesteve) basically said... "Oh, it's an iPhone 4 problem... hold it different", "Call Apple Care", "Go to the Genius Bar", "Soft Reboot your Phone."

I stood my ground and asked if someone could show me the capacity map of downtown minneapolis. They stated that was confidential. They then stated there is a plan to increase bandwidth and capacity. I asked for due dates.... they said there were none, and I said, then, there is no plan.

I got escalated to a manager who was angry with me taking up his time fielding a technical issue... I asked him who I could get a face to face with within AT&T about this technical issue, and he said, 'no one.' He then spouted the same "we're putting a towers and cable backhaul everywhere... so I asked, and 'when will this be done in Mpls?' 'There is no date.' 'If no date, then when will capacity meet demand?' 'No idea.' 'so if there is no date for hard deliveries, and no date for meeting anticipated capacity, exactly _what_ is the plan?' (Angry bit lip look.)

AT&T can't manage itself out of this bandwidth crisis. They can't communicate a cogent plan (with cities, goals, deliverables and dates) to address this issue. There salesforce is overwhelmed and underqualified.

We need Verizon's LTE... Up the game and up the ante. I may not switch, but we need AT&T to realize they are not the only game in town, and when the iPhone goes, so goes a massive amount of their profits.

There is are only 3 things to networking... endpoint availability (coverage/towers), end to end capacity (pipes), and reliability. They are failing on at least 2 of those 3.

AT&T is thinking they are a mobile communications company... They don't realize that they are basically a 'final mile ISP' and if they can't deliver the above 3, someone else will, and no amount of 2 year lock in will save them 2.1 years after someone passes them on the information super highway.
 
clearly im not on wifi






Bro, you're clearly on wifi. Your ping is under 100ms, that upload is not yet upgraded in any US market at this point.
Anyone can fake the speedtest. All you have to do is test it on WiFi, then turn of your router.

Nice try.:rolleyes:

On a sidenote, that test is kind of sad for a WiFi.
 
at&t truly is behind in the times

I am in the center of philadelphia. Literally 4 blocks from city hall, centery city. I just ran speedtest and I am at 2521 DL and 98 UL. Far cry from the potential this iPhone 4 alotts us. Whats the point of having an iPhone on AT&T? It's like having the best umbrella in the world and living in the desert.
 
In a downtown chicago highrise that always has weak 3G signal: 1.66 mbps Down, 1.21 Up.

On saturday night in Old Town (usually very strong 3G signal), 4.23 down, 1.09 up.
 
Seattle speeds

Pitiful here in Seattle:mad:
 

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Pitiful here in Seattle:mad:

I just got 290 down, 6 upload here in downtown Birmingham, AL......50 feet from the giant AT&T building/tower across the street. I've always got 5 bars, but the data throughput sucks!! It has been this way for months like this here downtown, especially during business hours.
 
$25 credit

called at&t, told them i was having issues with sending email attachments and upload videos to facebook. they credited my account with $25 and 500 rollover minutes.
 
And now with everyone constantly running these tests, the problem should last twice as long.

It reminds me of the time a gas pipeline to Phoenix had to be shut off unexpectedly. We ran out of gas because everyone went out at once to get it. If no one had known about it and went about business as usual, the other pipeline and trucks would have delivered enough gas to get us through.

I'm not saying this is directly analogous. There clearly is a problem. But as this gets publicized and everyone gets fixated on checking ("is it working yet?") won't the problem get worse? Assuming this is the network being overloaded.
 
Fine in Boston: 1423 up, 763 down.

If there were problems, they seem to be gone.

I didn't experience them, so maybe its only some towers, some regions, or some times of the day.
 
I talked to an AT&T rep after trading in my iPhone 4 here in MPLS 3 times and the person on the phone said there was a statewide outage with numerous "severly degraded towers" that were down for maintenance until September 2010. So, there's a time frame for you. Regardless, I think there are problems on both ends here. I have slower upload speeds, but consistent 1.0Mbps - 2.0Mbps download speeds on my 3GS while I couldn't even connect to 3G on the iPhone 4. That is a phone issue, along with the mounting list of other design problems. However, AT&T also can't handle the capacity either. Both were pointing fingers at each other on Friday, so I sent my iPhone 4 back this morning and went back to the trusty 3GS. No data problems anymore.

My 3G had the same connectivity problems and speed problems prior to the switch to a iP4. Once I put my old 3G cover on my iP4, my connectivity problems went away. I sat in my basement and made calls all day sunday with 2 bars or less. Downtown MPLS However, problems abound, at my home sans wifi, I'm getting 2.0Mb Down, and between 88K and 100K U

Their argument to you. makes it sounds if you get 5Bars, you should be golden, in that if you get connection, there is less competition for the backhaul network.

Given the fact that the manager of the downtown ATT couldn't/doesn't have the information given to you makes it sound like it's really an ATT problem, and they are sitting on the info.

Personally, I never do anything at the ATT store other than get free phones for my children. I buy and fix my phones at the Apple Store, and can't complain about them.

But back on point. Obviously the network is congested. Even if they aren't throttling bandwidth, the system can't handle full upload speeds. However, that would be the backhaul network, and not the towers. Severely degraded towers sounds like poor capacity management (don't you have your

I guess Minneapolis is joining the big city ranks of NYC and San Fran. ;-(
 
Props to O2 in the UK, still doing great -

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...Except for when I lightly touch the bottom left corner, but it's ok, there's no problem with the design or anything (note the time - this is the same location and time as the last pic, the phone didn't move).

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So, great phone only hampered by a "signal strength display issue" - yeah right.
 
Detroit, Michigan

Im doing Great with AT&T in Detroit. . .
New iPhone 4 and Bam, look at that speed. . .
 

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