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ade2bee said:
I know that it's nothing to do with them and it has been us expecting a change after 16 months!

But seriously, is there a bomb shelter Tim Cook can run to when/after they've announced this.

P.S. Can you imagine the world media Q's to the Apple PR team at the after party... Kevlar body armor all round everybody! ha haaaaaaaaaaaa!

EXACTLY!! I can't even fathom how badly this will turn out!! I didn't know they would throw Tim Cook under the bus. He is screwed if it's just a 4S!!
 
Apple has fueled the hysteria with their secretive way of conducting business. I don't blame them...it works wonders for them.

From a marketing standpoint, a 4S doesn't sound nearly as appetizing as a 5. If you compare it to a software release, the iPhone 4S would only fix bugs from the original 4 release. It would also include some minor upgrades.

I just want to fastforward 26 hours.

Good point. There's a reason Microsoft didn't call it "Xbox 2".
But the truth is, antenna-gate or not, the iPhone 4 has been selling like hot cakes (or so I heard).

One thing's for sure: soon we'll all be less stressed :)
 
I have a question

What is wrong with the current iPhone 4's design? I mean doesn't it still look "industry leading"???

And why do people want a larger screen??? I mean, doesn't iPhone 4 currently fit everything to the pocket well?

I really don't get it.......
the rumor specs alone makes a really really decent upgrade...

we want a larger screen cause when browsing the web or playing games its hard to read fine print and the controls for games and your fingers are blocking out too much of the screen in many cases its impractical..
 
Those that are attributing the extra 4 months for a refresh to hardware redesign are off base.

I can almost guarantee that the delay in the update cycle is due to architecting and testing the iCloud backend.

We may be gadget nerds/geeks, but Apple is way more excited about this service than a new iPhone enclosure. I believe this is what they consider more innovative than a new form factor, larger screen, etc. Cohesive software and user experience has always been Apple's primary motivator.
 
oh great so we can do more stuff faster on that little screen wow the newest iphone with a screen size from 4 years ago ???? NO WAY

We're still talking about a phone, right? Like the thing people tend to put in small pockets? Yeah, that definitely needs to be much bigger than it already is.

Agree with the above. For me, the size needs to stay the same. The resolution bump to the retina screen was awesome. I wouldn't want a huge screen. Some would, but I think most wouldn't.

It's getting closer!!

See? We are not normal!

At the end of the day, it's a berloody phone people. As they say where I come from Caaalm down
 
Just because it's the same form factor doesn't mean it's a minor upgrade.
Just because it's called "4S" doesn't mean it's a minor upgrade.

The 3GS brought us a substantially better GPU (shaders, anyone?), twice the RAM, compass, Video recording...

That's why I don't get why Apple would even use the iPhone 4S name. Just call the darn thing the iPhone 5, even if all it is is the same form factor as the 5. That way, a lot of the whining around here simply goes away.

Again, I'm not even convinced Apple is going to use iPhone 4S. I'm still pretty sure they'll call it iPhone 5, even with no redesign.
 
....Also, I recall when they brought out the Retina screen it was muted as being way ahead of its time and unlikely to need bettered for 4-5 years, this larger screen rumour is just that, a rumour, there is NO CHANCE they would bring out a larger screen as it would mess up there entire back catalogue of Apps etc NO CHANCE.

I for one will be moving to the Nexus Prime or Galaxy S3 when it comes out. Also I believe tomorrow's announcement is going to be a major fail.

retina screen was the only reason i went from 3gs to the 4...
 
Hey Ladies and Gentlemens, just a bit of common sense...

FACTS:

Apple is the company WITH MORE CASH AVAILABLE ON THE WORLD.

iPhone is the company's FLAGSHIP.

Apple use to crunch the competition on every LAUNCH (remeber iPad2, iPhone 4 launches).

Apple is now going to be cheapo on R&D?

APPLE NEEDS SOME THING TO CRUSH THE GALAXY S, AN UPDATED IPHONE 4 CAN'T DOIT.

Don't be Affraid, Apple is AGRESIVE, and commercial logic, said they will launch a Cheaper (but more powerful) iPhone 4 (8GB/A5/NFC), and a SUPERIOR DEVICE iPhone 5 (A5, 4", NFC, and sure some big surprise keept on deept secret).

iPhone 5 will eclipse APPLE'S COMPETITION and SENT THEM TO THE LOSERS CORNERS AGAIN.

If some company has REOURCES to do that, is Apple, and they managers had a well know aggersivity, I doubt now Apple to behave as little KITTY, when they allways have been TIGERS.
 
They could amaze us with the same form factor. If you put an edge-to edge screen with the same 3:2 aspect ratio on the iPhone 4 chassis, you can get a 4" display on the existing form factor. But, it would need to go the entire width of the glass. I don't see that being true, but a 3.7-3.8" screen could fit just fine. That little bump would be enough to make me happy. I know it seems silly for screen size to be a deciding factor for an upgrade, but I'm just fine with the iPhone 4's speed, but I'd like a little larger screen. 4" would be awesome, 3.8" would be acceptable. I don't want a 4.3 or something, as I my thumbs are stubby and I can't operate a screen that large one handed.

The fact is, that it's cramped to type on the small screen, and it'd be nice to just have a little more real estate for media consumption.
 
iPhone 5...

Just got of the phone with my Sales Rep (had contact with him due to the fact that my company are on the verge of purchasing 150 units).
I said I would like an offer of the old iPhone 4 and the new iPhone 4S or iPhone 5, whatever be the case.
He then said, good ill have you the offer for the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5 during wednesday afternoon latest.
That sounded good to me, but tomorrow we know for sure!
 
Don't underestimate people's desire to seek validation as human beings by carrying (or driving or wearing) something that is ever so visibly better than thy neighbour's.

Again, we're talking about a small bunch of tech heads who really give a toss. The rest (the vast majority) probably don't know the dimensions of the screen. They don't know the PPI. They see the adverts showing them how easily they can do this that and the other on an iPhone and they think "sounds good, I'll have one of those". You can tell them a Samsung Wowza! has a bigger screen or an HTC Kickass has more RAM but they don't care. They don't understand what that means. What they understand is "cool! I can use it like an iPod" and "wow, facetime is really easy!".

This is why Apple wins. They get this but almost no one else does. Amazon are starting to get it too.
 
If Apple updated the processor, RAM, camera, etc. and put it into a 4 case the majority of people here would be upset. However, if they make those same updates but put it in case that has tapered edges people here would go ecstatic.
 
3. Call it the iPhone 5 no matter what. iPhone 4S makes zero sense.

Really? That makes zero sense?

How does it make "zero" sense? They already did something like that with their 2009 iPhone. They just added an "S" to the existing product name. It made sense then (the "S" is for Speed!), and it makes as much sense now.
 
Seriously, it's time to face reality, iPhone 5ers. There will not be a redesigned iPhone 5 tomorrow. It is set in stone. You cannot wish it into being.
 
To all the people saying it is just a phone, or something along that line: It is not just a phone anymore. It is a computer that can make calls too. I have an iphone 4 and ipad2. I never take my ipad2 anywhere. I dont like carrying more than one thing. That is a big reason for me wanting a bigger screen. I dont care is it is so tiny to fit in my pocket now. I dont walk around with my phone in my pocket all day. You can fit a huge phone in your back pocket just fine anyways. I want 1 device, with the function of a tablet and a phone. I want to pay only 1 data plan, not two. If you have seen the samsung galaxy note I want something exactly like that. I just wish Apple made it instead. But hey, this is just me though...
 
Call it 4S, 4S 2, 5, whatever...

I just can't see either of the following happening:

1) Teardrop case
Seriously people, there are tons of landscape mode-apps out there (specially games). That mockup is landscape-asymmetric in every possible way (the only thing it does not give away is the weight distribution). Try holding it with one side thicker, and the screen off-center!

2) Resolution compatibility
I know first hand what a blessing it is that the iPhone 4 is exactly twice the resolution of the 3G/3GS (because I make apps for a living), and I know first hand it is technically far from trivial to overcome such difficulties in any elegant way (because I have an M.D. in computer graphics). And any ppi below the current would be "less than retina", I don't think even Apple could hide that under the carpet.

My hunch is, the iPhone will get a bigger screen when Apple can get their hands on a 4+ inch, twice-retina panel (1280x1920).
 
I do wonder if the increase to 64GB will work with the same phone's dimensions.

Also I wonder if we'll get an 128GB/256GB iPod Touch since the Classic was dropped?
 
If Apple updated the processor, RAM, camera, etc. and put it into a 4 case the majority of people here would be upset. However, if they make those same updates but put it in case that has tapered edges people here would go ecstatic.

so true...
 
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Someone made a good point about the name. iOS 5, A5... 4s... Doesn't sound right, I'm sure they will atleast call it iPhone 5...

And I'm sure they not stupid enough to leak the product name in iTunes.
 
interesting, this seems to mean that they will be offering many models this time around, with 6 '4s' models and 2 '4' models.

The lower end has never had a colour choice before.

What are people's guesses over pricing at for the '4s'? Is it likely that the 64gb will hold the current 32gb price point, or will it be even more?

Also, I don't consider a move to an A5 a small spec 'bump', it is still a significant upgrade. An increase in screen size would also be unneccessary (for me), so am perfectly happy with much better specs in the iphone four case
Keep in mind most of the people complaining about a 4S were never going to buy an iPhone anyway. They are just trying to make nois.

Why do some people think the case needs a redesign? The iPhone 4 is still the number one selling phone. An complaints about glass shattering and antenna problems only exist in tech blogs anyway. In fact assume both those problems ar true on a large scale (which they aren't). Think how terrible every othe phone on the market must be. (See JD Powers).

Arms summary in another thread (if accurate). Shows a phone with a massive upgrade. If you don't want this, you did not want a phone with a new case either.

I have no idea how many phones they will release. Sure it could all be an elaborate deception. We will find out soon enough. No matter what it is, people on here will say it's a disappointment.
 
Just Wait!

Check it out:

$49.00=iPhone4 with 2 yrs contract
$399.00=iPhone4 for purchase-Prepaid services

$99.00=iPhone4S-16GB-2yrs contract
$199.00=iPhone4S-32GB-2yrs contract
$299.00=iPhone4S-64GB-2yrs contract

$199.00=iPhone5-16GB-2yrs contract
$299.00=iPhone5-32GB-2yrs contract

Just wait and see!!
 
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