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The ironic thing is it would have still sold 4 million even if there were no changes.

Of course. That speaks to just how strong the product is.

When your focus is on perfecting the User Experience, these are the kinds of results you'll get.
 
What is 4,000,000 times $500?

The quickly supplied answer: $2.0 billion.

Yes, assuming they gross a minimum of $500 per phone sold, they just took in $2.0 billion in one weekend.


Apple's average selling price for iPhones is over $640.
 
I wonder how many more iCloud users there would be if it was compatible with Snow Leopard. I know I personally won't move from MobileMe to iCloud until it is.
Well, there will be no iCloud in your future. It is never coming to Snow Leopard. Apple isn't going to bring it back to older operating systems. That's not how they do things.

You have been left behind.

Goodbye.
 
LOL at all the people who were talking about the phone being a fail. Gotta love the uninformed masses on the internet.
 
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Sorry, should have been more clear I was specifically referring to the guy who had posted about having bought one and waiting for it while it was somewhere in mid-transit. The analogy was just meant to refer to that particular situation.

Anyway, all devices shipped to carriers and stores are considered "sold" by Apple. So even if there's stock and items in transit, as long as it's not in Apple's inventory, it's sold and paid for by someone, somewhere, who cares if it's an end-user.
 
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Only 25 million upgraded to iOS 5? In the scheme of things is that a small number (compared to the number of eligeble iOS devices)?

i'm not surprised, i know people that r still on 4.0 with 56 updates waiting on their appstore and dont even know what the word "update" mean. i call them the "toolbar generation". my sister is one of them ...

Ah, the "toolbar generation"! Excellent term.
 
4 million suckers bought the same phone 2 years running.

Way to go.

Apple investors give you a big thumbs up!

iPhone 5 will be here in 9 months time like the last 'S' variant.

All the 2 year contractors will be crying to Siri for an explanation.

Apple must be making these 4S phones for the price of rice now give the volume and time scales.

This model should be called the iPhone 4$
 
The people would have still lined up even if there were no changes. The average person hears new iPhone, I want one and the rest is history as usual. The media contributes a lot to this phenomenon. People lined up to the buy the phone site unseen like they always do.
Try again, Baldi.

Any evidence of this other than your own imagination?
 
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You would be amazed at how many people never bother to update their phones, which isn't surprising for non-tech people. If it works well out of the box, why tinker with it? My wife's iPhone and MacBook would never get upgraded or backed up if I didn't do it myself.

They could just force everyone with a 3GS and newer device to upgrade to iOS 5 or not be able to connect to iTunes (or App Store)...
 
Any evidence of this other than your own imagination?

Wow, I didn't realize that mind reading was among your many talents! My post was about John Q Public, and as LTD stated, it shows the strength of the product.
 
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So given the iPod, iPad, and iPhone 4S, can we assume that the larger the outcry on macrumors.com specifically, and throughout the punditry, in general, the more successful an Apple product proves to be?
 
well a million is only a thousand x a thousand, and a thousand isn't that much.

making a cube of 1 thousand iphones would only be a 10x10x10 of phones, making it a stack 4.5 feet by 2.5 feet by 1.75 feet tall, and a million stack would be 45 feet by 25 feet by 17.5 feet, and they sold 4 of those. basically 4 house sized stacks.

also, based on the thousand stack, you can probably fit about 5,000 on a pallet, that means 4 mil is only 800 pallets, or a 29x29 grid in a warehouse-only about 115 feet by 115 foot area needed. 31 53' semis could transport it.

basically 4 million iphones are like 4 house sized stacks, 800 pallets-a 29x29 grid taking up 115x115 ft or 31 semis full.
 
Hence, why Siri is a beta.

I doubt it's the Beta thing that makes it slowler than actually just typing out search engine queries.

"I don't know about that, do you want to search the web for it ?"... uh... at this point, I would have been better off to search the web for it myself rather than ask you ? :rolleyes:

There's 1 bug I attribute to the beta stage though :

- "Call Contact Name at home" works fine. Siri gets the right contact, dials the right number.

- "E-mail Contact Name at home" results in the funnies. Usually, Siri will pop up a new e-mail with the subject line being : "completely messed up contact name at home" and ask "To whom shall I send it ?". :rolleyes: Repeat contact name. "I don't understand completely messed up contact name to whom shall I send it ?". Bugger. Try again. "I don't understand completely messed up contact name to whom shall I send it ?". Cancel that. "Call Same Contact Name you don't understand", bam, first try works fine.

Siri doesn't recognize any of my contacts for e-mail. None. No matter how easily pronounceable their names are and yet has no problem even with the hard to spell crap when calling contacts. Why ? That is a bug to sort out and something that's "beta" about it. But the slowness, confirmations and inefficiencies are just par for the course for Voice control. Sometimes, it is just faster to type things out.

Not to mention the point about "Natural conversation with the phone". Another scenario that caused problems :

- "Call Contact Name". "Which number to you want to use, mobile or home ?". Fine, let's play around with "natural" language and just talk to this thing as if it were human instead of a glorified Voice Control system. "Nevermind". "Which number to you want to use, mobile or home ?". "I changed my mind". "Which number to you want to use, mobile or home ?". "Bugger that, don't call anyone". "Which number to you want to use, mobile or home ?". Rince and repeat for a good 3 minutes of trying "natural" language ways of cancelling an action. The only way I got Siri to stop bugging me was to issue the rather plain and dull "Cancel" command. I thought this wasn't "Voice Control" but rather "speak naturally to your phone ?".

All of this together still leaves me with the same opinion as before : Siri is a gimmick. It's a nice thing to show off, doesn't quite work well in real world scenarios. We're not in the 24th century yet and I can't write this post to the Captain's Log for now.

(wonder how low this post will reach... imagine that, someone actually using a function and criticizing it! I want to point out to anyone wanting to downrank me to oblivion : Have you used Siri ? I have).
 
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These numbers are pretty good. Even tho they added a new carrier and launched in more countries starting out.

The numbers I want to know is how many 3GS customers there were, and how many of them switched to the 4s(two year contract over by now)? How many Iphone 4 customers there are, and who switched to the 4s.

In the grand scheme of things, apple is still making money regardless of where it comes from.

But market share may not change much.
 
Is that 25 million users updated to iOS5, or just 25 million attempts? (Boom boom).

How long before we have articles speculating on what percentage of the Internet's traffic is due to Apple? Between iOS installs, Lion installs, iCloud syncs, iOS app downloads and updates, Mac app downloads & updates, music downloads, video download; all from tens of millions of users. The scale of traffic that Apple is generating must now be massive.
 
Wow, I didn't realize that mind reading was among your many talents! My post was about John Q Public, and as LTD stated, it shows the strength of the product.

Please stop feigning ignorance. Claiming your made up fantasy as fact is silly. Your post history doesn't require any mind reading.
 
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But market share may not change much.

You mean overall device installed base. Market share is calculated on the quarter by quarter basis. It doesn't matter that users are upgrades or new customers, they are counted as a new sale in this market share numbers.
 
Please stop feigning ignorance. Claiming your made up fantasy as fact is silly. Your post history doesn't require any mind reading.

I'm feigning no ignorance at all. I stand by what I posted. If the iPhone 4S was exactly the same as the iPhone 4, people still would have lined up to buy them. The average user had no idea what changes were made to the phone. They just heard on the news and read online that there was a new iPhone going on sale Friday, and the majority bought them without even looking at one first. What am I pretending?
 
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