I agree with 100% of everything you posted. The person I was debating with, however, was referring to the GS2, not the GS3
Ah, gotcha. My bad.
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iPhone 4s VS Samsung SIII - Hands on.
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Ah, gotcha. My bad.
Yes, it does have a slower CPU. The iPhone 4S Linpack CPU benchmark score is 127
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By the way Vegastouch, I figured out why my previous source on the HTC X was misleading, apparently the International version is significantly slower. I was comparing the International version to the iPhone 4S
Security is not debatable. That's like a Windows user, who downloads new versions of Windows from Piratebay every few weeks, saying "Windows is not less secure than Linux, because I've never had a virus."
1. In terms of malware attacks, it is less secure. Due to the number of handsets that are not given security updates due to carrier laziness, there are a large number of vulnerable handsets out there, and there's nothing the owner can do about it. Replacing your OS with something posted by a random person on a message forum, is the biggest security risk you could take with a computer.
2. Studies show that the majority of Windows users with a virus/malware/Trojan, don't know they are infected. The most dangerous malware of today is not interested in giving you 100 popups, that only forces you to take steps to remove it. The dangerous malware is the one that silently captures your passwords and credit card information. On Android, there is malware that silently sends text messages to certain numbers costing you $10 a message (something like that).
Top security firms, Fortune 500 companies, and government agencies employ a team of security experts to prevent intrusions, and even they have had some highly public failures in recent years. Considering this, you cannot be 100% certain that you haven't installed any malicious software or rootkits when replacing your entire OS from an unofficial source posted by a random person on a message forum.
Is that graph meant to show me something?
Benchmarks mean sod all anyway.
Yes, it does have a slower CPU. The iPhone 4S Linpack CPU benchmark score is 127
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By the way Vegastouch, I figured out why my previous source on the HTC X was misleading, apparently the International version is significantly slower. I was comparing the International version to the iPhone 4S
Security is not debatable. That's like a Windows user, who downloads new versions of Windows from Piratebay every few weeks, saying "Windows is not less secure than Linux, because I've never had a virus."
1. In terms of malware attacks, it is less secure. Due to the number of handsets that are not given security updates due to carrier laziness, there are a large number of vulnerable handsets out there, and there's nothing the owner can do about it. Replacing your OS with something posted by a random person on a message forum, is the biggest security risk you could take with a computer.
2. Studies show that the majority of Windows users with a virus/malware/Trojan, don't know they are infected. The most dangerous malware of today is not interested in giving you 100 popups, that only forces you to take steps to remove it. The dangerous malware is the one that silently captures your passwords and credit card information. On Android, there is malware that silently sends text messages to certain numbers costing you $10 a message (something like that).
Top security firms, Fortune 500 companies, and government agencies employ a team of security experts to prevent intrusions, and even they have had some highly public failures in recent years. Considering this, you cannot be 100% certain that you haven't installed any malicious software or rootkits when replacing your entire OS from an unofficial source posted by a random person on a message forum.
I explained this to you on several occasions and you still insist on comparing Linpack scores between iOS and Android. Once again, these comparisons are meaningless because the test is heavily software dependent. That's why you will not find a single tech publication comparing the scores for iPhone and Android. Browser benchmarks is another matter. Those make more sense and this is why you can see comparisons between iPhone and Android phones (and Galaxy SII is faster in those, not to mention SIII).
Last time we spoke (I think) I had two responses to that.
1. Linpack seems to be the only CPU benchmark shared between the two platforms, I'd be happy to look at another if available, are you aware of any?
2. You said Linpack has an advantage on iOS, because there's a built-in function that handles that type of calculation very close to the metal, whereas Android devs have to create one from scratch and it won't perform as well behind the Android layer (that was my understanding of what you said, correct me if I'm wrong). However, if iOS devs have access to these functions, where Android devs do not, then apps that do heavy computations would perform better on iOS correct?
If that's the case, then it should be fair to compare the Linpack scores of the two phones, because the scores represent the maximum capability of the phone (Hardware+OS) at that computation.
Is this logic wrong?
3. Browser scores are very software dependent. When Safari was updated on the iPhone 4, the browser benchmark scores almost tripled. Why is it ok to compare Browser scores, but not Linpack scores?
The GPU is much faster than any phone, it's even faster than the dual GPU of the iPhone 4S.
And in browser tests, the S3 is also the best.
It's a Samsung. We're you really expecting quality from them? They're all about pumping out new devices and are historically horrendous at updates. If I ever go back to Android it will never, ever be a Samsung. People talk about iSheep but Samsheep are 10x worse.
Samsung just updated a range of their devices to ICS before most other manufacturers. They're not horrendous at updating compared to other manufacturers - but all Android manufacturers are horrendous compared to Apple and iOS updates.
Initial feedback on S3
Well as others have stated, the S3 is an interesting phone.
I just received mine today (In White) - and it is very slick. BTW - I also have a 64GB iPhone 4S, so it is great to compare the two. (I travel a lot and need multiple phones, and I am a gadget freak)
The phone feels light weight, but very solid. It does not feel cheap, nor too 'plastic'. It is very thin. Upon setup, you enter your gmail info and it downloads your previous profile. Also DropBox is also integrated by default.
It has NFC - which can be used for payment, or to share data between S3's.
The bottom buttons light up when necessary or turn off when not needed, cool.
The software is well integrated, and Ice-Cream Sandwich is a great OS.
Security - As stated it has the following ways to secure the phone:
Swipe Lock - No Security
Motion Lock (you tilt the phone different ways to unlock) - No Security
Face Unlock - Low Security
Face and Voice - Low Security
Pattern - Medium Security
Pin - Medium to High Security
Password - High Security
or NONE
Screen -
OK - In my opinion, the S3 one-ups the iPhone 4S (and HTC One X) on screen size, with an enormous 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED screen, which displays at a maximum resolution of 720 x 1280, even though the 4S - with its impressive 800:1 contrast ratio and 960x640p resolution. I really like the S3's live wall paper - I use the desktop wall paper to show the weather real time. Nice background versus a static post on Apple.
More to come - (Still an Apple Fan boy!)
Well as others have stated, the S3 is an interesting phone.
I just received mine today (In White) - and it is very slick. BTW - I also have a 64GB iPhone 4S, so it is great to compare the two. (I travel a lot and need multiple phones, and I am a gadget freak)
The phone feels light weight, but very solid. It does not feel cheap, nor too 'plastic'. It is very thin. Upon setup, you enter your gmail info and it downloads your previous profile. Also DropBox is also integrated by default.
It has NFC - which can be used for payment, or to share data between S3's.
The bottom buttons light up when necessary or turn off when not needed, cool.
The software is well integrated, and Ice-Cream Sandwich is a great OS.
Security - As stated it has the following ways to secure the phone:
Swipe Lock - No Security
Motion Lock (you tilt the phone different ways to unlock) - No Security
Face Unlock - Low Security
Face and Voice - Low Security
Pattern - Medium Security
Pin - Medium to High Security
Password - High Security
or NONE
Screen -
OK - In my opinion, the S3 one-ups the iPhone 4S (and HTC One X) on screen size, with an enormous 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED screen, which displays at a maximum resolution of 720 x 1280, even though the 4S - with its impressive 800:1 contrast ratio and 960x640p resolution. I really like the S3's live wall paper - I use the desktop wall paper to show the weather real time. Nice background versus a static post on Apple.
More to come - (Still an Apple Fan boy!)
Medium security so long as you clean your screen. I can sometimes see my lock pattern in the fingerprints on my screen.
Well to start with the SIII has this lame 16GB at least the one that is sold on the launch day.... which is kind of lame..... When they have mentioned 32GB & 64GB.
I know if can take in a card - so you can add extra memory but that is another lame thing as cards/ reader can have problems and issues.
I have lost memory cards.... as well as have one's that don't work and need a flashing.
All in all its just something Samsung is try really hard to achieve.
They want a phone like an iPhone but they are far from it.
They are desperately trying to build the hype.
Rant if you want - but what I have said is engraved in STONE!!!
I know if can take in a card - so you can add extra memory but that is another lame thing as cards/ reader can have problems and issues.
I have lost memory cards.... as well as have one's that don't work and need a flashing.
All in all its just something Samsung is try really hard to achieve.
They want a phone like an iPhone but they are far from it.
They are desperately trying to build the hype.
Rant if you want - but what I have said is engraved in STONE!!!
I tried the Samsung SIII for sakes - would never think of moving to a crappy plastic Samsung Phone though it has crossed my mind to always try and use one... its never been possible.
I have an Apple ecosystem at home and at office. - Macbook/ iMac / 6 Apple tv's / iPads etc - the full set up....
I must say this phone looks and feels so cheap as if its a 5 years old's toy from walmart..... rubbish I must say.....
Thank good Apple keeps to the quality materials etc... though I have had screen issue's ( tint etc ) they swap them out straight away.
Can't wait for the new iPhoneway to goooooooooo.
Thanks for this hands on review of a "competitor" to the iPhone 4S. I really appreciate you taking the time to experience Samsung's flagship device, and sharing those experiences with us.
I don't know why so many people are voting you down. Yours is the kind of contribution we should be championing as a community: insightful, honest and fair. You've taken the time to go hands on with an alternative device to iPhone 4S, and you've given us the facts succinctly. Great work!
I hope Samsung will learn from the mistakes you have highlighted and make a better phone in future that some customers want to own.
If you buy MicroSD cards from respectable brands like Samsung or Sandisk they're not likely to break. The only SD card that's broken on me is a cheap one I got from eBay.
Samsung phones couldn't be more different from the iPhone, not sure how you can say they "want a phone like an iPhone"
Based on sales recently, I think "some customers' want to own a Samsung phone. Your statement was a joke right??
Which U.S. non-Nexus phones have received ICS? I'm not saying your incorrect, I just did a search on couldn't find any that have received it yet.
Not sure about phones in the US, but the Galaxy S2 has received ICS outside of the US.
The "Samsung on Ice Cream Sandwich" update on this page might assist.
I tried the Samsung SIII for sakes - would never think of moving to a crappy plastic Samsung Phone though it has crossed my mind to always try and use one... its never been possible.
I have an Apple ecosystem at home and at office. - Macbook/ iMac / 6 Apple tv's / iPads etc - the full set up....
I must say this phone looks and feels so cheap as if its a 5 years old's toy from walmart..... rubbish I must say.....
Thank good Apple keeps to the quality materials etc... though I have had screen issue's ( tint etc ) they swap them out straight away.
Can't wait for the new iPhone
I was actually really hoping for an intelligent and well written comparison vs heavily opinionated post by someone who likely picked up the phone in a store and pushed a few of the buttons/features just out of curiosity sake and then left the store.
If this is NOT how it went, it sure reads like it.
What would have been nice to see was items like: responsiveness, camera speed or photo comparison, summary of features that differed from the 4S etc etc.
What I read was: it feels plasticy and icky. Oh and that you feared the change because of being entombed in an eco system (I can understand that one a bit myself).
Very disappointed.
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OMG a partial review by someone who actually BOUGHT the phone???
Thank you sir.
The HTC Vivid has had ICS for a couple months. I think Samsung has plans to get it on their US phones by the end of the 2nd qtr but who knows if that will actually happen.
I would really love your additional impressions. Specifically how the S3 screen compares to the 4S. (Colors, brightness, etc.) Also, do you feel the device is too large for one handed use? Any other impressions? Thanks.
If that was the case you shouldn't have had the title indicate that you were actually putting some thought into a REVIEW. You should have just put the title as: Hate the way Galaxy S3 feels, Apple all the way".
The issue I have with your childish posts (Sam cant sing etc). Is that you used a title for your post that indicated you had used some sort of insight into comparison for the devices, not just ranting (as you continue to do) about just the feel of it in your hands.
The troll is strong with you, congrats for luring me in with candy!!
I guess I should have qualified my statement. Samsung is horrendous in the U.S. at updating their software. Of the big three Android handset makers (Motorola, HTC and Samsung) Samsung is by far the worst here in the states. That obviously does not include Nexus products.
They also have the worst radios.
What? I don't get it. You're putting the fact that it has additional storage down as a disadvantage!!!
My S3 has 16GB which is great. Same as my partners iphone 4! However I've added another 32GB in an SD card - which by the way never leaves the phone so losing it or breaking it is never an issue (and by the way has never been for me even if I do remove it etc)
If you want to discuss the positives or negatives of a phone then fine but stop grasping at straws.
get real.
My S3 has 16GB which is great. Same as my partners iphone 4! However I've added another 32GB in an SD card - which by the way never leaves the phone so losing it or breaking it is never an issue (and by the way has never been for me even if I do remove it etc)
If you want to discuss the positives or negatives of a phone then fine but stop grasping at straws.
get real.
LTE phones will come w/ a 32 GB option. At least the ones coming to the USA will. Dont know about a 64 GB option.
Ive never had an issue with mine as i buy the known quality brands and how the hec can you lose it? Just leave it in the phone. Problem solved.
Its nothing like an iPhone in any capacity. Completely different OS, completely different size and feel , much bigger screen and can do many more things. iPhone users wish their Phone could do all those things.
Well yes its about storage as in this day and age its all moving to the cloud slowly but surely.
Memory cards are lame as they have problems when you swap them often.