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iPhone 4S with iOS 8
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I got phone calls working with iPhone 4s and Yosemite / iPad but the SMS relay is not working
Looks like it's not working for anyone anymore, at least from reading on the forums. I know it's not working for me either.
Its all very confusing. People who are running the beta say it was working, then people who seemingly have not run the betas and coming and saying it doesn't work as Apple's website says it doesn't work.
Well they took it down, it's on the front page: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/12/apple-demotes-icloud-photo-library-beta/
But why was it still working up to when Apple disabled it for everyone. There is no reason for it not to be working when Apple releases Yosemite.
People are getting confused here. Apple has turned off SMS continuity probably until Yosemite comes out.
Just my two cents. I've had the GM installed on my 8GB 4S for two days now.
1. I did a straight upgrade through iTunes, which was surprisingly much smoother in the end than restoring iOS 8 and then restoring from an iCloud backup again.
2. It's about 10% slower, with apps taking a split-second longer before the app opening transition starts. However, apps actually load up faster once this happens, and seem a little more responsive.
3. Battery life is on par, luckily we didn't get iOS 7.0.0's battery-murdering bugs this time around.
4. Booting is slightly faster, but once it loads up, it now takes a second for the lock screen to become responsive, whereas before it took longer to boot, but the LS was instantly responsive.
5. I can have more apps open- I use a Pebble, and the app would be cancelled out if I did more than one or two things with it in the background, but now, it seems to stay on all the time, even if the app takes a second to refresh once I return to it later.
6. The new features like Siri music recognition, separate regular and private Safari tabs, and recent contacts in the app switcher are much more useful than I thought they would be.
7. Safari would crash quite frequently on heavier sites, but now, it might freeze for half a second on those same sites, but it seems more stable.
So, in all, it's a tiny bit slower - as fully expected, but the new features and surpringly more responsive overall - it seems iOS 8 is the Snow Leopard of releases- it takes iOS 7, and mostly tweaks and refines it to be more of what we originally hoped 7 would be
So, if you're on the fence, get the GM and try it (but direct upgrade, as it's quicker and easier, but solved most bugs for me), while you can still revert to 7 if it's terrible for you.
FINAL NOTE - iOS 8 was slow at first, but after the first few hours (I guess it finished indexing or something), it's now much more responsive.
1. I did a straight upgrade through iTunes, which was surprisingly much smoother in the end than restoring iOS 8 and then restoring from an iCloud backup again.
2. It's about 10% slower, with apps taking a split-second longer before the app opening transition starts. However, apps actually load up faster once this happens, and seem a little more responsive.
3. Battery life is on par, luckily we didn't get iOS 7.0.0's battery-murdering bugs this time around.
4. Booting is slightly faster, but once it loads up, it now takes a second for the lock screen to become responsive, whereas before it took longer to boot, but the LS was instantly responsive.
5. I can have more apps open- I use a Pebble, and the app would be cancelled out if I did more than one or two things with it in the background, but now, it seems to stay on all the time, even if the app takes a second to refresh once I return to it later.
6. The new features like Siri music recognition, separate regular and private Safari tabs, and recent contacts in the app switcher are much more useful than I thought they would be.
7. Safari would crash quite frequently on heavier sites, but now, it might freeze for half a second on those same sites, but it seems more stable.
So, in all, it's a tiny bit slower - as fully expected, but the new features and surpringly more responsive overall - it seems iOS 8 is the Snow Leopard of releases- it takes iOS 7, and mostly tweaks and refines it to be more of what we originally hoped 7 would be
So, if you're on the fence, get the GM and try it (but direct upgrade, as it's quicker and easier, but solved most bugs for me), while you can still revert to 7 if it's terrible for you.
FINAL NOTE - iOS 8 was slow at first, but after the first few hours (I guess it finished indexing or something), it's now much more responsive.
Can you elaborate on this? Comparing iOS 8.0 and iOS 7.1.2, what is the approximate number of apps that you can have open and have the app content stay there while you switch between apps?
Well in general about the ipad 2, ipad 3 and 4S - all of which have been working with SMS and phone call relay.
While I didn't do scientific tests, I can say that around 2 (maybe 3) apps on 7 could run before it would start canceling out old ones, and now, 3 and sometimes 4 can be in the app switcher, and while it may take a second to load when switched back to it, all the apps will still be running, albeit not fully- just improved support for background communication and refreshing.
Ok, thanks! Seems like memory management has improved so that it is similar to how it performed on iOS 6.
On other note, it will be interesting to see if iOS 8.1 will be a speed, performance and optimization update like 7.1. Maybe the speed of 8.1 will surpass that of 7.1.2.
In any case, I hope Apple transitions from iteratively slower iOS releases to yearly iOS releases that perform similarly to yearly OS X releases. The last three OS X releases have retained or increased performance, and have been relatively bug-free.
My mums giving me her nexus 5 when she gets the OnePlus One. (Yay!) and she's going to give me her invite for the OPO.
So I don't have to live with my POS iPhone (buttons broken and slow as hell)
So I don't have to live with my POS iPhone (buttons broken and slow as hell)
let's face it, this is once again planned obsolescence. Remember Iphone 4 and iOS 7? The thing was unusable then like magic it become fast again with iOS 7.1 . How could that be? It's really easy to slow down software if you think. All you need is adding pauses of some milliseconds toeverything. For example... open calculator but wait 0.5 msec before opening it. Then after some months when the hype is over and people rushed to by the new phone simply remove the pauses in software and MAGIC the phone becomes usable again.
The OPO sucks and is glitchy as hell. The sister's gotten rid of hers now. Customer support is of course non existent.
Come on. 1. Not everyone is cashed up and can upgrade. 2. Apple was still selling the 4S last week.
The 4S has a large installed base and its going to get support at least to this time next year, if not longer considering the number of people on iPad 2s, 3s and Mini 1s.
7.0 was rushed and incomplete basically. A fairly simple if unfortunate explanation.
Not sure that its planned obsolesce, that would be not updating the 4S past iOS 6 or something. I think that iOS 7 and iOS 8 are indicative of Apple not having the time or resources to perfect iOS on older devices, and then working towards it for .1 releases.
Oh really? Think about it for a second. How is it possible for a system in idle status to slow down even launch of a simple app like the calculator? CPU and I/O basically idle then you launch the calculator and it lags? That's impossible unless you put a pause in software on purpose, e.g. if button pressed pause 5 msec then proceed to load routine. How do you get things faster after some months? Remove the pause, pure and simple. I/O access speed doesn't change because the os has new features which you can use or not. It's not like these new features are keeping disk access all the time. When you are idle you are idle and Calculator can't lag neither can other proprietary apps. But that's exactly what's happening in iOS 8.
Planned obsolescence is just obvious. These people only make revenue from new hardware if you buy it.
They are selling the same product again and again. It's not about the user, it's about revenue.
For example Samsung does that too, how? They simply don't update your phone to the latest os release, they tell buy the new model to get the latest release.
Apple does that too but in a mixed way, they let you download the latest OS, when you discover your phone becomes slow like hell you have no way to go back. Only option? Buy the new phone.
You want the latest feature? Buy new. Remember the map app? Iphone 4 didn't have the navigator feature by claims the cpu wasn't capable to hold it. WHAT? I had a GPS navigator that could perfectly run on a 200mhz cpu under windows mobile os. Then when google maps app was published it had the turn by turn navigation feature. How could that be? Google developers are better at coding an Apple product? They can squeeze the cpu capability and put that feature while Apple developers can't? It's just not possibile. It's once for all planned obsolescence.
"Wouldn't many business owners love to make their old product less useful whenever they released a newer one?" Mullainathan wrote. "When you sell the device and control the operating system, that's an option".
Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/technology...ld-iphones-before-a-new-release#ixzz3DDrJOWj5
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apple maps uses a more advanced tech to draw the maps in 3D. I had it working on my iphone4 via jailbreak and it was very slow in re-drawing the graphics.
system idle != actually idle. There could be junk stuck in memory that needs to be cleared before a new app can load into memory. This clearing process could also hang via bugs too.
Background processes could be stuck and continue eating up CPU cycles.
system idle != actually idle. There could be junk stuck in memory that needs to be cleared before a new app can load into memory. This clearing process could also hang via bugs too.
Background processes could be stuck and continue eating up CPU cycles.
More advanced tech to draw maps in 3d? What are you talking about?
This is turn by turn navigation in google maps and Apple Maps
This is a Mitac Mio 168, a 300mhz cpu pocket pc on the market in 2002
Perfectly capable of turn by turn navigation with Tom Tom.
This is the 3d flyover gimmick in Apple Maps, a feature which has nothing to do with turn by turn navigation.
As for memory clearing, are you suggesting that iOS is coded so badly that it has bulit in memory leaks?!?! You are telling that after boot up, in idle status and with no apps running in background there is still memory to clear before proceeding at loading the calculator?!
Have the same issue with the home button being unresponsive and bringing up multi tasking most of the time. anyone else? did someone get the fix this? resetting all settings didn't help.
thanks
g maps doesn't use true realtime 3D graphics. The Tom Tom is basically 2D technology made to look 3D through perspective. The level of graphic detail is much different. Navigation renders the entire map in 3D with 3D buildings. This takes more power. Not to mention g maps uses far more battery too
Memory leaks are not limited to the OS level either. Plus Apple has been notorious to not have fully optimized new versions for older devices until a .1 release. There's gonna be bugs plaguing the system on new OS versions. This is the same for other systems too (vista anyone??)