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iPhone 5 Javascript Benchmarks Over Twice as Fast
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Quite... with every customisation, preference, API hook and background process the system becomes larger and more complex, with more potential for instability, slowdowns and conflicts. This is why Apple designs things the way that they do and why many of us prefer them. And I AM a geek, I build hardware, write code and more, but I recognise that I'm in a minority, wouldn't dream of insisting other peoples stuff functions in a way that suits those tendancies of mine, and actually, in my phone, stability, speed and simplicity is what I want anyway, like the majority of users.
This argument that we somehow want a lack of choice is absurd. We want the benefits that come from a phone that works exactly as Apple designed it.
Whatever Wicus and his kind might say, choice is there, in other phones and we all have that choice. The logical extension of his position is that every phone, or product even, is (a) identical and (b) offers infite choice, both of which are also absurd.
Any android user that thinks they can "out customize" me with my jailbroken 4s I would be happy to go toe to toe with you. And then we will crash the phones, cause them to brick, and see who's back up and running faster... It will take you longer to decide whether you want ice cream sandwich, or honeycomb, or gingerbread, or donut, or Twinkie.... I mean come on.... It's ridiculous...
Honestly customization in Android is highly overrated. I just figured someone had to say it.
This going to be one hell of an upgrade from my iphone 3g.
Don't forget it now has more than double the pixels to handle, not sure if you see a real performance increase.
From iPhone 3G ? Of course iPhone 5 will fly !!!
My 4S is already way faster than 3G ( I had a 3GS ). iPhone 5 is even more faster than 4S in real use based reviews, and the numbers Phil presented.
iPhone 5 is also lighter.
A lot to discuss here. First the javascript benchmark(s) are not just dependent on hardware, but also on the engine. 4S SunSpider numbers also increased on iOS6. So, that means Apple improved the efficiency overall.
In iPhone5, we are looking at newer generation of the SoC. Is it A15? maybe not exactly, but it much better than A5. When comparing to SGS3, we are comparing against older Exynos4 which is essentially an Cortex-A9 SoC. Remember it's still running on ICS. Number of cores hardly matter as it doesn't scale properly. Intel with a single core SoC is almost on same level! That said I expected better. I was "assuming" it would be somewhere in region of 500-700 range considering a newer architecture.
Galaxy Note 2 (JB on beta software) using a A9 SoC actually is near to the iPhone 5.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii-review-811p5.php
But a even bigger question is the test itself. Many people doesn't consider SunSpider as relevant anymore.
Google has previously raised doubts about SunSpider:
http://blog.chromium.org/2011/05/updating-javascript-benchmarks-for.html
http://www.conceivablytech.com/7210/products/chrome-declares-sunspider-browser-benchmark-outdated
There are also other browser benchmarks to consider: BrowserMark, PeaceKeeper being the most prominent.
Not every benchmark is optimized for every SoC. Qualcomm S4 is optimized for LinPack and Vellamo. Exynos seems to be optimized for BrowserMark.
It should be a good battle with all players giving their best. Comparison with Exynos 5 would have been awesome. I think we will have to wait till March for that.
In iPhone5, we are looking at newer generation of the SoC. Is it A15? maybe not exactly, but it much better than A5. When comparing to SGS3, we are comparing against older Exynos4 which is essentially an Cortex-A9 SoC. Remember it's still running on ICS. Number of cores hardly matter as it doesn't scale properly. Intel with a single core SoC is almost on same level! That said I expected better. I was "assuming" it would be somewhere in region of 500-700 range considering a newer architecture.
Galaxy Note 2 (JB on beta software) using a A9 SoC actually is near to the iPhone 5.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii-review-811p5.php
But a even bigger question is the test itself. Many people doesn't consider SunSpider as relevant anymore.
Google has previously raised doubts about SunSpider:
http://blog.chromium.org/2011/05/updating-javascript-benchmarks-for.html
http://www.conceivablytech.com/7210/products/chrome-declares-sunspider-browser-benchmark-outdated
There are also other browser benchmarks to consider: BrowserMark, PeaceKeeper being the most prominent.
Not every benchmark is optimized for every SoC. Qualcomm S4 is optimized for LinPack and Vellamo. Exynos seems to be optimized for BrowserMark.
It should be a good battle with all players giving their best. Comparison with Exynos 5 would have been awesome. I think we will have to wait till March for that.
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Forgot about that, yeah I am sure with the reduced weight the performance will be fine.
Let me know when you can have auto updating RSS widgets, a file manager, the ability to use your iPhone as a disk drive while dragging and dropping MP3s and AVI files to it and look up a Best Buy in Safari and tap the address to get voice guided navigation. I'll be waiting
If all this is true then apple must have known all this and just 1/2 marketed the iPhone 5. Amazed also how users talk about my phone as quad core and by optimising a dual core it's much better in respects so can't wait until apple decide to use quad core this is when we will be amazed by speed and performance.
Yeh plus some of my pixels dont even work.........
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U were joking right, or did u never have a 3g on ios 4?
Oh, I am sure with the reduced weight, larger screen, Retina display, iOS6 running full featured, LTE, etc. he will be elated !
You are only fooling yourself if you think iPhone 5 can't outrun an iPhone 3G. 8^)
iPhone 5 beats Samsung SIII. If it can't outrun iPhone 3G, it means Samsung SIII is slower than iPhone 3G. Pwned.
The fact that the iphone is even close to the note2 is saying something. Its a beast in terms of mobile computing power. Huge result for the iphone.
I already have every one of those except for the voice guided navigation by one clicking the address. Care to try again?
Holy crap, It's almost as fast as my old laptop(2007).
My laptop did 869.8ms.
Specs:
My laptop did 869.8ms.
Specs:
- CPU - Intel Core2Duo T7500 @ 2.20Ghz
- GPU - Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT
- RAM - 4GB DDR2 800Mhz
To be fair, there are Apple haters as well as Apple worshippers on this site. Their comments are not exactly truthful.
Yeh plus some of my pixels dont even work.........
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U were joking right, or did u never have a 3g on ios 4?
Sure, just joking, had 3, 4 and now will get 5
What kind of proof would you like? My file manager is an app called iFile, and I use a simple widget called "USB drive" to use my iPhone as a storage device. Allowing me to download music/movies/ even PC games from my phone and later transfer.
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Now who's waiting? Maybe you should own, research, and educate yourself before trying to be a badass.... Try holding your home button, telling your phone to text your mom, and tell her I said Hey!.... Bet your phone wouldn't have a clue, just like you.
You really should be looking where you're going.
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Yup.
Pages and pages of options and customisations to wade through, and not always placed logically.
I'm not trying to down android users at all, a good friend of mine has android and loves it. My point is, if customization is how you will try to determine which phone is better, you will lose that battle too. As said many times before. It is all about user preference.... If the iPhone 5 doesn't appeal to you, fine, but obviously it appeals to millions already. And they are the only ones that matter.