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This is a great question. Perhaps deserves a short thread of it's own. I am in the same position. Never use the level or compass, nor play games, but rely on the iPhone to run Navigon.

The GPS is not affected so navigation will work, though a map app may show you facing the wrong direction because of the compass issues. That's not specific to the 5S though.
 
I used my 5s for navigation yesterday which is -3 degrees off on the long side, I had no issues. Real Racing 3 has a calibration function built in which you have to leave the phone laying flat for a few seconds and it totally works. I hope apple will release a global software fix soon.
 
This is a great question. Perhaps deserves a short thread of it's own. I am in the same position. Never use the level or compass, nor play games, but rely on the iPhone to run Navigon.

I'm going to test it out later tonight by using it to drive to a restaurant dinner in an unfamiliar town. I'll use Apple Maps to drive back and see if there's any noticeable change from my old 5, will report back here later.

The GPS is not affected so navigation will work, though a map app may show you facing the wrong direction because of the compass issues. That's not specific to the 5S though.

My old 5 compass wasn't perfect either, but it wasn't much of an issue, I occasionally geocache and use it for walking directions, and if there were discrepancies they were mild enough not to be noticed. For Navigon there was an occasional moment when I'm driving on a road so tightly parallel to an adjacent road that it couldn't tell the difference, but that as far as inaccuracies went.

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This was mentioned previously but I'm wondering if this is an extremely common occurrence: out of the box I immediately compared the 5s to the 5 and there was no difference at all, so I thought I was one of the lucky ones. One/two days later it's now -2 degrees off, but ONLY on the long side (or lying flat).

Makes no sense to me, especially how it seemed perfectly calibrated out of the box, and then over the course of a couple of days it changes 2 degrees. Whut?
 
This was mentioned previously but I'm wondering if this is an extremely common occurrence: out of the box I immediately compared the 5s to the 5 and there was no difference at all, so I thought I was one of the lucky ones. One/two days later it's now -2 degrees off, but ONLY on the long side (or lying flat).

Makes no sense to me, especially how it seemed perfectly calibrated out of the box, and then over the course of a couple of days it changes 2 degrees. Whut?

Many of us have experienced this "drift" from the original measurements. Not sure how common it is. If you don't take measurements early on, you may never be aware of it.
 
If Steve Jobs was still there, he would have asked his team of engineers what the accelerometer was supposed to do. When they provided him with the answer, he would have said "So why the F#@K doesn't it do that?".

Here we go again, another "If Steve Jobs" were alive post. He's dead. Has been for over a year. And you, and no one else knows what he would or would not have allowed on his watch. In fact his years at Apple, a number of hardware releases had some issues. Now tell us again what you think Steve Jobs would have said or done. Are you a dead persons clairvoyant ? :confused:
 
Many of us have experienced this "drift" from the original measurements. Not sure how common it is. If you don't take measurements early on, you may never be aware of it.

Makes me wonder how many who earlier said their phones are calibrated accurately only checked it once out of the box but haven't checked it since then. (or at least reported back to note this drift)
 
Here we go again, another "If Steve Jobs" were alive post. He's dead. Has been for over a year. And you, and no one else knows what he would or would not have allowed on his watch. In fact his years at Apple, a number of hardware releases had some issues. Now tell us again what you think Steve Jobs would have said or done. Are you a dead persons clairvoyant ? :confused:

Holy cadavers! It was a joke, man. Lighten up.
 
Replacement 5s - C3 - Week 41

Hi all,

I received my retail replacement today. Its not perfect but its a lot better so I'm going to keep it and live with the issue as its only off by 1 degree on two out of the 4 angles.

Please see my pics below with my wife's 4s, my current 5s and the replacement that came today.

What's your thoughts guys?
 

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I'm going to test it out later tonight by using it to drive to a restaurant dinner in an unfamiliar town. I'll use Apple Maps to drive back and see if there's any noticeable change from my old 5, will report back here later.



My old 5 compass wasn't perfect either, but it wasn't much of an issue, I occasionally geocache and use it for walking directions, and if there were discrepancies they were mild enough not to be noticed. For Navigon there was an occasional moment when I'm driving on a road so tightly parallel to an adjacent road that it couldn't tell the difference, but that as far as inaccuracies went.

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This was mentioned previously but I'm wondering if this is an extremely common occurrence: out of the box I immediately compared the 5s to the 5 and there was no difference at all, so I thought I was one of the lucky ones. One/two days later it's now -2 degrees off, but ONLY on the long side (or lying flat).

Makes no sense to me, especially how it seemed perfectly calibrated out of the box, and then over the course of a couple of days it changes 2 degrees. Whut?

Mine drifted after 2 days by an extra 3 degrees, but now six days in the short side has drifter a further 1 degree. Panos have a bend in them
 
If Steve Jobs was still there, he would have asked his team of engineers what the accelerometer was supposed to do. When they provided him with the answer, he would have said "So why the F#@K doesn't it do that?".

Holy cadavers! It was a joke, man. Lighten up.

Jokes sound like them. Yours did not. Not only that you are using some profanity in your post. Seems you being new you should cut back on this.
 
Has anyone noticed issues when using the iPhone 5s for navigation? I figure as long as the calibration error doesn't adversely affect my Navigon or Apple/Google Maps Navigation and show me driving on a service road when I'm actually driving on the interstate, I can live with my life being off -2 degrees.
The thing is that it's difficult to tell how many apps and features are using the gyroscopes. On top of that, perhaps some new cool features and apps will be launched in iOS8? Things that we're now not aware off, but will required properly functioning gyroscopes.

Another question is resale value if this can not be fixed with a software update. Suppose you want to sell your 5S in a year's time because you fancy something else (an iPhone 6 perhaps:rolleyes: ), then perhaps there will be a whole generation iPhone 5S's out there that nobody will touch with a 10' bargepole.

To be quite honest, for that kind of money that Apple charges for a phone, you'd want something that works as advertised and I can not believe the main stream media is again letting Apple off the hook on this one!

Do all those so called "journalists" out there have Apple shares? :confused:

My advice to people who haven't bought an iPhone 5S yet: be patient and just wait with buying one!
 
Just to point out again that that is normal for things in the foreground.

http://www.ephotozine.com/forums/topic/panoramic-photos-and-foreground-bending-60484

@EUROBUFF
I can confirm that the lens on the iphone generates a certain "bend" in panos. that is normal and would happen with any other camera that uses wide angle lenses in panoramas. so it has nothing to do with the accelerometer.

That being said. The only problem I could imagine with the accelerometer using panos would be that the horizonline would not be levelled. But since have not tested it I cannot corroborate that.
 
@EUROBUFF
I can confirm that the lens on the iphone generates a certain "bend" in panos. that is normal and would happen with any other camera that uses wide angle lenses in panoramas. so it has nothing to do with the accelerometer.

That being said. The only problem I could imagine with the accelerometer using panos would be that the horizonline would not be levelled. But since have not tested it I cannot corroborate that.

That is the other problem, I have to use the phone at a slight angle to make the arrow stay on the straight line. It's not easy!
 
My phone level is off by 4 degrees and I have noticed no problems with pano pictures (except maybe unsteady hands). The pictures turn out straight and not distorted.
 
Just got back from a drive. Used Navigon to drive to my destination, and Apple Maps Navigation to drive back. No issues, pretty much indistinguishable from my old 5. I'm gonna guess if you use navigation to walk instead, then inaccurate readings might be more noticeable.
 
Checked my week 35 white box replacement again and on the backside it will drift from -3 to 0. (Same spot for measuring) When I first received mine it was -1 on the backside. Maybe tomorrow we will hear something...
 
Just got a new retail box iPhone, it's off by around 1-2 degree all around except for holding it upright, 0. Which is fine, since upright of 0 is great for panos.

Obviously would prefer 0 all around, but hey we'll see hopefully soon.
 
Build week?

Just got a new retail box iPhone, it's off by around 1-2 degree all around except for holding it upright, 0. Which is fine, since upright of 0 is great for panos.

Obviously would prefer 0 all around, but hey we'll see hopefully soon.
 
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