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iPhone 5s Supplies Dry Up Quickly in Germany, France, and the U.K.

Im now jealous and mad. I work for Foogle and naturally I buy Samsung, invest in the company I belong. I have always known iPhone is a better phone and AAPL wad a best buy before a new product launch in the fall. The prob is I have no capital left and my company's stock had no more head room to move, and if I use an iphone, I would have no job.
 
tdtran1025 said:
Im now jealous and mad. I work for Foogle and naturally I buy Samsung, invest in the company I belong. I have always known iPhone is a better phone and AAPL wad a best buy before a new product launch in the fall. The prob is I have no capital left and my company's stock had no more head room to move, and if I use an iphone, I would have no job.
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I highly doubt you would have no job if you used an iPhone...
 
scbn said:
Well, we don't know if they have very limited supply or there are just too many people buying at the first minute...
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As much as I love Apple, I think this is pure manipulation by Apple to feed the lines at the stores tomorrow.
 
KellyC said:
I think many people fail to realize how many iPhone 4 and 4s are out in the wild. So the 5s, for many of us, is a pretty big step up.

I got my 4 when the iPhone came to Verizon. The next family upgrade came along a year later and my wife got her 4s. So for those of us who are still using the 4 it's a pretty significant upgrade.

Ironically, I installed iOS 7 on our devices last night. I'm out of contract with Verizon and can get the 5s at the subsidized price. However, iOS 7 has made my 4 seem like a new phone (to me at least). I'm half tempted to drag out getting the 5s for another couple of months. At least until any potential manufacturing-related bugs have been ferreted out.
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Only thing is you're paying Verizon a subsidized phone fee each month. Basically its like you're making payments on a car that you completely (100%) own. If you plan on sticking with the service for awhile you should, in general, always get a new phone when they offer their full subsidy. Otherwise you're just giving your money away.

As far as the potential bugs, their warranty will protect you. If there is something noticeably wrong with your phone they will swap it out with a brand new one (I've done exactly this when my power button stopped working after 6 months).
 
TTile said:
Only thing is you're paying Verizon a subsidized phone fee each month. Basically its like you're making payments on a car that you completely (100%) own. If you plan on sticking with the service for awhile you should, in general, always get a new phone when they offer their full subsidy. Otherwise you're just giving your money away.

As far as the potential bugs, their warranty will protect you. If there is something noticeably wrong with your phone they will swap it out with a brand new one (I've done exactly this when my power button stopped working after 6 months).
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if you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, it's worth it to be using an older device just to keep that. i used ~10GB on my iPhone 4S which was just 3G. i bought an iPhone 5 64GB running iOS 6.1.2 (jailbroken) last week and in 1 week i've used 28GB just streaming Spotify at high quality and streaming CNN at work for 1/2 of the day when the naval base shooting took place (using my iPad 3 tethered to my iPhone 5 via wifi tethering)

while i may be allowing verizon to get away with murder by not taking advantage of the subsidy, the fact that i am paying $30 /mo for unlimited LTE means i'm the one getting away with murder. in my area i get 28Mbps down / 12Mbps up
 
eNcrypTioN said:
My local att store told me 15 mins ago that they have a plentiful supply of space grey 64gb models...
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Good to know. I just called my local store to check on stock but they were closed already. I know the iPhone 4 year, I'd mail ordered (got it Thursday) but had an activation problem and went in to the downtown Detroit store at 1pm, they hadn't even gotten any!

Gary
 
KellyC said:
I think many people fail to realize how many iPhone 4 and 4s are out in the wild. So the 5s, for many of us, is a pretty big step up.

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Ironically, I installed iOS 7 on our devices last night. I'm out of contract with Verizon and can get the 5s at the subsidized price. However, iOS 7 has made my 4 seem like a new phone (to me at least). I'm half tempted to drag out getting the 5s for another couple of months. At least until any potential manufacturing-related bugs have been ferreted out.
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I was almost tempted to delay too but I will have my 5s here by Monday so my iphone 4 will replace my mother's old phone. She still has an old Nokia so I figure that's an even bigger step.
 
Larry-K said:
"Perceived Scarcity" is one of the key principles of marketing.
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That is true mostly for non-manufactured items. It isn't as applicable to manufactured items as you drive your customers elsewhere. Apple wants to sell as many of these as possible.
 
TTile said:
Only thing is you're paying Verizon a subsidized phone fee each month. Basically its like you're making payments on a car that you completely (100%) own. If you plan on sticking with the service for awhile you should, in general, always get a new phone when they offer their full subsidy. Otherwise you're just giving your money away.

As far as the potential bugs, their warranty will protect you. If there is something noticeably wrong with your phone they will swap it out with a brand new one (I've done exactly this when my power button stopped working after 6 months).
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Yes. Good points but I failed to mention that I'm still on unlimited data. Once I upgrade I lose it.
 
KeithJenner said:
Having tracked these movements for previous releases, they usually arrive a day or two after they leave China.

The time difference means that they arrive in the UK a few hours after they leave. I believe there have been occasions where some are delivered the day after they leave China, but it would only be a max of 3 days.

My point is that the despatch and delivery dates just don't tie up. I'm not sure what that means, but I'd hope that they have overestimated rather than underestimated. I wonder though whether they are giving some leeway for delays in dispatch though.
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Traditionally apple has erred on the side of longer delivery times.
 
TTile said:
Who knows if the stock is lower than last year. Maybe they're just switching to a non-preorder system for the non-C launches so they can get people to their stores and generate free media attention.
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This.
 
oaktree said:
As much as I love Apple, I think this is pure manipulation by Apple to feed the lines at the stores tomorrow.
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I think calling it manipulation this early is a little premature. It could be any number of factors:

1) They may have supply shortages preventing them from selling the phone in stores AND online.
2) With the new fingerprint sensor they may want to ensure that there are knowledgeable people around to instruct consumers on how to use it properly. It may be brainless for people on MRs but difficult for the general public (pure speculation).
3) They may be switching strategies since they now are launching two iPhones. The C model may get the preorder treatment while the S (and whatever they call the next one) may only be available in stores on launch day. Perhaps they want to demonstrate the new features of the phone to their first set of customers (see 2).
4) Maybe its easier logistically to send a bulk shipment to a store versus sending individual shipments all over the country, overnight.

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oaktree said:
This.
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Yep but its all speculation.
 
KeithJenner said:
Maybe, but if the 5C was released today with the 5S to follow in a couple of weeks then they would still have hit September for the iPhone release.

You could be right though.
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However, the 5c is viewed as a warmed over iPhone 5 (or probably more accurately, a cheaper way to sell "last year's phone"). It might have created unwarranted expectations of two days of lines. We'd be watching an Apple launch tomorrow with very few people in line, which would be bad PR. Also, Apple does have some iPhone 5s models ready. Better to strike while the iron is hot.

imageWIS said:
How about Jony Ives CEO, Cook co-CEO and COO?
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Co-CEOs usually don't work well (Samsung nothwithstanding). There needs to be one person in charge. Jony Ive doesn't strike me as CEO material. He's great at what he does, but being a CEO isn't easy. Arguably, it took Steve Jobs 3 tries - Apple the first time, NeXT, Apple the second time - and 4 if you count Pixar.

Rogifan said:
Isn't that Jeff Williams role as SVP Operations?
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I think he held that role when Tim Cook was COO. Maybe Jeff Williams should be COO and have the ability to hire a new SVP Operations.
 
Medic311 said:
if you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, it's worth it to be using an older device just to keep that. i used ~10GB on my iPhone 4S which was just 3G. i bought an iPhone 5 64GB running iOS 6.1.2 (jailbroken) last week and in 1 week i've used 28GB just streaming Spotify at high quality and streaming CNN at work for 1/2 of the day when the naval base shooting took place (using my iPad 3 tethered to my iPhone 5 via wifi tethering)

while i may be allowing verizon to get away with murder by not taking advantage of the subsidy, the fact that i am paying $30 /mo for unlimited LTE means i'm the one getting away with murder. in my area i get 28Mbps down / 12Mbps up
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I absolutely agree. I was speaking about the general consumer. I think you're likely saving money with your method (I'm sure you could figure out what your subsidy would be and calculate it out) so I would keep doing what you're doing.
 
KellyC said:
I got my 4 when the iPhone came to Verizon.

Ironically, I installed iOS 7 on our devices last night. I'm out of contract with Verizon and can get the 5s at the subsidized price. However, iOS 7 has made my 4 seem like a new phone (to me at least). I'm half tempted to drag out getting the 5s for another couple of months. At least until any potential manufacturing-related bugs have been ferreted out.
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But aren't you still paying the same rate (even though you're out of contract)? $19 a month of your phone bill goes to pay for part of your $649 iPhone that you only paid $199 for. They'd love you not to upgrade, that's free money to them.

To me the best deal is to upgrade every two years and sell your old phone back to Gazelle. Right as they new ones come out they generally paying around $200 for the 2 year old iPhones. Have a quote for $210 for the 16GB iPhone 4s good until October 15, so the upgrade is going to be the activation fee plus sales tax (and maybe AppleCare+).

Gary
 
Larry-K said:
"Perceived Scarcity" is one of the key principles of marketing.
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But the iPhone is beyond the point of perceived scarcity. Let's face it. If they announce 4 million sales (or even 5 million) on Monday, or don't announce sales at all the stock will take a hit. It's 50% of Apple's profits. Tim Cook may not be glued to Bloomberg all day watching Apple's stock price, but it's underperformed for a year and I'm sure he's paying some attention to it. I'm sure he'd rather have been in a position to have 10 million iPhone 5s on hand and sell 8 million on launch weekend than to have 4 million on hand and take orders for 8 million.

Remember the 3rd iPad launch didn't have long lines and it was in plentiful supply all launch weekend. There were reports that perhaps it didn't generate a buzz, but they all went away Monday morning at 8:00AM Eastern when Apple announced the first weekend's sales were through the roof.
 
mantan said:
Suckers!!! Tim Cook is playing you like a worn out guitar.

How do you create demand and buzz for a a minor upgrade? Eliminate preorders and have limited stock Brian says he's posting FA's shortlyin launch days. Suddenly people are wetting their pants to try to get it this weekend when there will be PLENTY in stock in October.

But it'll play great when Tricia Takanawa runs her stock story about Apple fans lined up for the latest release.
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No.

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/dev/toaster said:
Minor upgrade ?
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It means HE is upgrading and HE is a minor.
 
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