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I've said it for some time now. It's quite simple - Apple needs to differentiate in order to meet the tidal wave of competitors with maturing offerings. They should have

Small thin slow (since it is small and thin)

Medium (thin faster bigger)

Large (fastest, thin and bigger)

I would probably own both a large and a small since they are totally replaceable since they are synced. Small for casual use and large for business and trips.

Step up the game Apple!
 
Except that the S4 has a massively more beautiful display and an interface that's not 5 years old.

Sorry, but who cares about interfece whether is old or not, if it works great.
I don't need a new interface, I need a working interface, changing interface every season is a sign, that it's creators are not sure which way it should be.

Let's iOS 7 polish few discrepancies, and it's great UI. Always working, always reliable.
 
if Apple would continue with their minor hardware upgrades in the S edition, while releasing a major upgrade to their cellphone line once in 2 years, it would eventually be behind (not that it's not behind right now, but it would be even worse). The S edition is pure junk. Apple would gain much more revenue and hype if they put all their resources to produce 4.5-5" iPhone.
 
I usually wait for the actual upgrade, and don't go for the "upgrade" S version.

I went from 4 to 5. I pay retail for the phones, so if they actually make something worth my time, contract isn't an issue.
 
Realistically what hardware innovation have apple done recently?

Retina screen....

Err is that it?

Yes they have a very good design team, the phones always look excellent, and they have, over the years, led in material usage. The glass and aluminium approach has been better than their competitors.

They have pushed forward with software development and that is where they are strong, siri and the app store are streets ahead, but I can't see them taking a big risk and introducing new hardware first.

NFC they are still on the fence, OLED, finger print scanning I very much doubt.
 
I don't want a 5s I want a 6!

Can't tell if serious...:/

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Personally I'd rather they skip the S, give us a little innovation and put a new 6 out next year. Bigger screen, changes to iOS, give Siri a French accent. That kind of thing. Throwing a letter on the end of the name and asking us for another $500 is getting old. Not just with Apple, but all the phone makers who want to take baby steps and charge us premium.

So, you feel that they're all holding back? That they could do what you suggest every year?
 
Well regardless I'll be upgrading from a 3GS to a 5S, but I really hope they update the iOS by un-installing the Forstallware and adding some sweet new features. Also can I PLEASE remove any unnecessary apps like stocks and compass etc
 
It's a shame. They definitely acknowledge the competition, as Schiller's comments prove, yet they're not driven to actually do anything about it.

Assuming this report is true of course.

Does the report claim that the two mentioned upgrades will be the only differences between it and the 5?

Nope. Why assume that it means that, then??

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Only exciting if they replace the physical home button with a virtual haptic one.

You know that the S4 has a physical home button.
 
LoL

Samsung only increases screen size from 4.8 to 5.0 on their new phone and all of a sudden people get declare samsung innovative...

Apple is "rumored" to put better processor and some other enhancements as well, and people ask "where is the innovation apple?" lol...

The only true innovation on smartphone market was the launch of iPhone, from there on it was only spec bumps, for all manufacturers.. Unless manufacturers invent a flexible phone or a phone with 30hr battery, thats where the real innovation will be. So waiting something extraordinary from both apple and samsung in near future would be pure naivity.
 
Love it when people take rumours as realities!

Anyway, stats aren't what make my old iPhone 4 still useful and more than enough for day to day use, sure I can't play properly some of the latest games, but it's a great device that still receives updates.

That's the great benefit of the platform iOS. I for one I'm hoping iOS 7 could bring improvements from the leadership change, those are the rumours I'll love to read, for data mining I'll keep using my desktop computer, doubt even the best mobile CPU in 2-3 years will be able to do anything about that.
 
Must be a response to the Galaxy S4, really we need a faster processor? We hardly have any programs that take advantage of the A6.

Instead of being a leader, Apple has become a follower.
Yeah, I,m pretty sure they ran to the drawing board when they saw that phone last week and started planning the updates that will come on the 5S. Really?
 
Only exciting if they replace the physical home button with a virtual haptic one.

As an owner of Sony Experia S and LG 4X HD, I can easily say that the amount of accidental clicks on those buttons makes me want to throw my phone out of the window. It's so annoying, especially when accidentally pressing during typing instead of pressing space button. My next smartphone will have a physical home button for sure!
 
So, slightly better camera, slighty better core processor, and a useless gimmick everyone else ditched in the 1990s

and another 200 "features" which are really just slight tweaks to fonts or other non-features

...Revolutionary ..... :rolleyes:
 
Don't forget the Blackberry Z10, that doesn't look too shabby either... :cool:

(Although, that "Knox" feature on the GS4 brought down my excitement, since having a separate "work" mode was one of the things I really liked about it...)
These phones are getting panned by their own supporters in the reviews. The only ones who seem to be impressed are the Apple haters who now live in the Apple forums.
 
I'm not expecting a radical redesign or anything (not yet, anyway) but I do hope they have a few big new features to really 'wow' us in iOS 7. I'd be pretty disappointed with another iOS6-esque update.

If they can do that, then I'd gladly wait another year for a really great teardown and redesign of iOS.

I want to put this in perspective. Do you think that Samsung wowed with the software features on the S4?
 
Sorry, but who cares about interfece whether is old or not, if it works great.
I don't need a new interface, I need a working interface, changing interface every season is a sign, that it's creators are not sure which way it should be.

Let's iOS 7 polish few discrepancies, and it's great UI. Always working, always reliable.

I agree. I know widgets and customisable home screens are often touted as a big plus on Android, but if I can have access to 324 apps within two taps of my home screen, its not like you have to drill down through endless menus to find things.

Having said that, to cater to those who would like them, I would change it so it worked like this:

- Home screen as is, then swipe left as you do now to move through the pages.

- Swipe right to move to and through any widget style pages, so you could have things on there like weather, notifications, facebook, twitter feeds if that was your thing.

- The option to select either the first existing style page or first new widget style page as your default homescreen.

- Swipe down for the notification centre, which could have more functionality, for example access to a few common settings and the ability to swipe to delete individual notifications.

- Swipe up for the search screen.

That and lose some of the skeuomorphism, and it would probably be improved quite a bit, without losing what keeps it as clean and simple as it currently is.
 
I never thought I would do this, and I still probably won't, but that Samsung Galaxy S4 looks mighty nice.

Apple better rock this update with software if this is it for the hardware.

I agree.... I mean I have docks for iPhones/pods/pads and in car stuff but with the lightning connector they're all redundant come my next update. I like my 4S a lot but that samsung does look decent......
 
i'm so sick of this!!! when will apple release a thicker, slower phone with a crappier camera?
 
This is Digitimes, when have they ever been accurate?

A release of an iPhone coincides with a new version of iOS unless Apple now break this pattern / bring forward the release of iOS7.

I wouldn't get over excited about lack of innovation etc - refer the source of the rumour!
 
As has been stated numerous times before, and as Ventilatedbrain here has pointed out: the software is crippling just the most optimized and performance driven hardware that is on the iPhone 5....c'mon apple 4 months and still now keynote announcement? Really???? I hope I don't have to wait until WWDC to find out about the mythical iOS 7 (i know its not mythical in its actual sense, but nothing has been announced of when it will be released, so it could be thought of as being mythical in this sense)....

They have learn from their mistakes. They were previewing the OS in March as well as the iPad giving their competitors time to see what they were doing and copy them. Sometimes trying to beat them releasing their own version first event though the implementation was horrible. In the current culture you have people on this very sight who would claim that Google did this or that first when they really just threw something together to try to beat Apple to market with something that was leaked or they previewed to developers. Google started announcing their Android updates two months after Apple's March reveal, so last year they moved it to WWDC and the release to October. The same with the iPad so competitors don't have time to copy them before the Holiday Quarter.
 
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