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If that is it from Apple then it will be a dead duck on arrival.

Up until the jump from 4 to 5 I have been very eager to get the latest iPhone but when the 5 came out it really did not rock my world. To the point I put the fact I would need to replace all my chargers and sign up for another 2 years with AT&T as a deal breaker.

Innovation is currently dead in the phone market.

Yeah, because Apple keeps Digitimes fully in the loop regarding new products in development.

Riiiiiiight.
 
The S4 is the phone of the year.

Going to take a while for everyone else to catch up. By which time the S5 will be out and set new standards all over again.

Right on!

S - Health FTW!!

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The 5S is innovative?

From these specs mentioned it appears more dated than anything else.

The Digitimes article did not give specs of the new iPhone.

Move on.
 
I'm not in the market for a new phone, but I agree that the HTC One looks like it blows the water out of the S4.

I'm thinking about making the switch too. I've had every iPhone except the 5. I was left uninspired by the 5, and the 5s is (predictably) sounding just as boring. iOS is feeling old and stale, and limiting.

I had been considering the S4, but I'm really liking the One. Can't wait to see it in person. The physical design looks like something that could have been produced by Apple.
 
Earth shattering!

Earth shattering that Apple will be releasing a new iPhone that will be available in the 3rd quarter and that it'll be called the 5S. Not that its happened alternate years for a while now.

I don't see why the hate on an incremental update from the 5. I'll be happy to swap my 4S for a 5S. Not everyone changes phones every year.

In terms of updates I don't want Apple to play copycat and cram every new feature they can think of into the phone. I want things that I'm going to use that preserve the current look and feel. It works and is familiar. Are people seriously wanting Apple to go down the Microsoft route and gamble everything on a new interface?
 
A large screen with a 1080p resolution and 25% less power consumption than previous AMOLED displays (with AMOLED already using less power than LCD) IS innovative. I personally believe that the screen is the most important part of the phone - but other people may think differently.

Less power consumption is indeed innovating, but I am pretty happy with the battery life of my "4". What I don't understand is the fuss about bigger screens. What is important to me is what the phone can do for me combined with its size and weight.
What I absolutely don't want is an iPhone of the size of the Galaxy or bigger, it is just too big. If I am looking for screen real estate, I use my MacBook which can and will beat any phone in the world by a street length. So for me there are different devices for different purposes and I will not use my iPhone for surfing the web or reading a book; they can increase the screen size to 6 inch and it still sucks.

So the question would be "what is the ideal phone screen size"? or is this just in increasing number as competition go along (and eventually there is no difference between an iPhone and an iPad).

What really would be great is a bigger screen without an increase phone size (no rims)
 
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The 5S is innovative?

From these specs mentioned it appears more dated than anything else.
The S4 would have to be considered even more dated. It looks like a blown up White 3GS or better yet iPod Touch. The specs are just numbers that don't equate to real world performance as the reviews all point out.
 
The S4 is the phone of the year.

Going to take a while for everyone else to catch up. By which time the S5 will be out and set new standards all over again.
Not according to the review of this thing. They were more favorable for the S3 and it was still trounced by the iPhone 4S not to mention the 5
 
Nobody in the tech industry has ever had the same desire or passion for innovation as Steve Jobs had, it was incredible. I fear that although Apple's strategy is still aimed at innovation, the desire and passion for it have been lost.

Right... Nobody...ever. Marconi, Edison, Einstein, ect. were a bunch of nothing burgers compared to Jobs. (Not to mention the guys at Parc Xerox). :rolleyes:
 
Just picked up a 5 after a unsuccessful attempt at Windows phone, I'll skip the S and go for a 6 when my contract is near up.
 
So people are going to buy an S4 based on a rumor from DigiTimes? :eek:
Why the *!%* does MR even post something like this on the main page? Any one of us could predict an upgraded processor and better camera. :rolleyes:
 
Just wish they would stick to one date for the releases? First it was June, then October, then September, now who knows. I do not plan on getting the 5S anyway, but this is getting annoying...
 
Yeah, because Apple keeps Digitimes fully in the loop regarding new products in development.

Riiiiiiight.

Some here are convinced Apple is out of ideas, no longer innovates and can't find their way out of a paper bag without Steve Jobs. So they'll believe anything that fits this meme.
 
I agree. I know widgets and customisable home screens are often touted as a big plus on Android, but if I can have access to 324 apps within two taps of my home screen, its not like you have to drill down through endless menus to find things.

Having said that, to cater to those who would like them, I would change it so it worked like this:

- Home screen as is, then swipe left as you do now to move through the pages.

- Swipe right to move to and through any widget style pages, so you could have things on there like weather, notifications, facebook, twitter feeds if that was your thing.

- The option to select either the first existing style page or first new widget style page as your default homescreen.

- Swipe down for the notification centre, which could have more functionality, for example access to a few common settings and the ability to swipe to delete individual notifications.

- Swipe up for the search screen.

That and lose some of the skeuomorphism, and it would probably be improved quite a bit, without losing what keeps it as clean and simple as it currently is.
The Widgets like weather and stocks are already on the notifications screen. You can already use Siri to open any app on the device.
 
Some here are convinced Apple is out of ideas, no longer innovates and can't find their way out of a paper bag without Steve Jobs. So they'll believe anything that fits this meme.

If Apple is not innovating, so by this definition Samsung isn't either. There is nothing innovative in the S4.
 
typically contracts are 2 years, so we have two patterns.
iphone -> 3gs -> 4s -> 5s
and
iphone 3g -> iphone 4 -> iphone 5

I don't think it's Apple's intention to encourage users to upgrade every single year, it's just for those that are on the offset +1 year that need a reason to renew their contract.

Keeping in mind that the original iPhone was sold without a contract. I remember paying something like $650 for my 16GB iPhone. They only started subsidizing the iPhone at the iPhone 3G which is when they set the standard price for all smartphones at $199. :cool:
 
Just wish they would stick to one date for the releases? First it was June, then October, then September, now who knows. I do not plan on getting the 5S anyway, but this is getting annoying...

Apple hasn't announced anything (including the next release date). These are all rumors.
 
Personally I'd rather they skip the S, give us a little innovation and put a new 6 out next year. Bigger screen, changes to iOS, give Siri a French accent. That kind of thing. Throwing a letter on the end of the name and asking us for another $500 is getting old. Not just with Apple, but all the phone makers who want to take baby steps and charge us premium.

Apple really doesn't expect you to buy a new phone every year...

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A large screen with a 1080p resolution and 25% less power consumption than previous AMOLED displays (with AMOLED already using less power than LCD) IS innovative. I personally believe that the screen is the most important part of the phone - but other people may think differently.


It really isn't, that is absolutely iterative. The hovering touch thing is innovative. If it works. Try out Webster's, it will help you understand what words mean.
 
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