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The stat I'd like to see is what percentage of 6+ owners once insisted that 3.5" is the perfect size/sweet spot when Android started releasing bigger phones.

Probably a lot less than you might think. Always remember macrumors is not a batch of 'normal' customers. Most people got an iPhone because they liked it, not because they had investigated a 'sweet spot' size beforehand and it just happened to be the size of an iPhone.

I, like many others, happily had a 3.5" iPhone, but things move on, things change. I'm happy with a plus now. But who's to say in a few years I'll want something smaller again, or bigger still?

Things. Change.
 
About the so called bendgate? Comedian Bill Maher summed it up best. http://instagram.com/p/r9dsJAwYTb/
 
Do you mean the false flaw purposely underlined by someone on YouTube? :D

Noooo I'm talking about the one where 9 out of 10,000,000 customers have complained. 99.99991% success rate pshhh...does apple do any quality control anymore??

 
Thats insane. I skipped upgrading this gen, for the first time ever, due to both models being to large. Im amazed it sells so well, but also sad, because I guess this may be the end for the smaller models. Id prefer 4" and even 3,5" over these.

IPhone 5S still is a good product not far from the iPhone 6, performance wise.
 
Changing your mind is not allowed. All apple users should have the same opinion!

FYI - I have no problem with people changing their minds. I did it with the original iPad. I do however think people should also have enough integrity to admit when they were wrong (if and when they are.) In fact, I have great respect for those that have posted that they were wrong about larger phones and that they really like the new iPhone and the larger size.

Once you state an opinion, you don't have to maintain it forever - or even in the same thread. But at least own it.
 
If you believe only 9 customers complained then you're naive. If I had a bent iPhone I'm returning that sucker for another reason. Just the 16GB model alone is $750 and I wouldn't want to be stuck with a bent phone. I made the mistake of telling Apple that I replaced their faulty battery in my wife's iPhone 5. They refused to touch my phone due to unauthorized repairs. So yes; I would not say one word about a bent iPhone when making my return.

100'thousand complaints would make 1% of sold iPhones...

1% it's a laughable figure.....deal with it!
 
This really does not surprise me...

Lots of folks want one mobile device and the plus meets that demand for that base.

The price of the 6 phones (both sizes) is tough, but Apple has always charged a premium for portability. All that said, I am glad Apple are finally offering folks a choice in phone sizes.
 
Scratching my head over this (As in I don't believe it).

I work in an organization where we allow BYOD. We have approximately 800 iOS devices registered to our MDM server. 534 of those are iPhones. 46 of those iPhones are iPhone 6. Of those iPhone 6, 7 of them are Plus. And I know of at least one of those 7 who is returning their Plus for a 4.7" iPhone 6.

I find it hard to believe that our environment is that different than the market as a whole. Unless most of those 6 Plus sales have been outside of the US.
 
There's absolutely no question that the regular 6 is outselling the Plus overall. The issue is that supplies of the Plus are severely constrained, to the point that many people who preordered them the moment they went on sale still don't have a device (at least from AT&T). I finally cancelled my AT&T preorder and found one in an Apple Store. So Apple is playing catchup with demand here, as they should be.
 
Noooo I'm talking about the one where 9 out of 10,000,000 customers have complained. 99.99991% success rate pshhh...does apple do any quality control anymore??


You know as well as I do - that it's likely more than 9. Whether it constitutes the media attention is another matter but we live in a sensationalist world and Apple is definitely under a large media microscope.

At the end of the day - devices are not infallible. Things sometimes get through QA because QA isn't perfect either. It's entirely possible that X number of phones easily bend. That doesn't make it a non-issue for those unfortunate enough to experience it with their device.
 
You're kidding, right? This clearly is a design failure. It bends in people's pockets. And where do you get that number from? Nine customers? I personally know three guys who had problems with the device bending. I think it shouldn't be us adjusting to the products they throw at us, but the other way around. I'd rather have a device that is smart with me, than me being smart with my device. But that's just my opinion...

No. It doesn't bend in people's pocket unless you are not going to sit on it.
And if you take a seat on a 6mm thick piece of glass and aluminum, well, you are not so smart.
 
FYI - I have no problem with people changing their minds. I did it with the original iPad. I do however think people should also have enough integrity to admit when they were wrong (if and when they are.) In fact, I have great respect for those that have posted that they were wrong about larger phones and that they really like the new iPhone and the larger size.

Once you state an opinion, you don't have to maintain it forever - or even in the same thread. But at least own it.

100% agreed. The problem which I see here though is people say apple users change their minds constantly without providing evidence of it and that they do it because apple told them what's best. Heck, if anyone can provide evidence of the sheeplike flip flopping, I'd say that would be good for a laugh.

Problem is it doesn't happen, and if it does not remotely nearly enough to be anything worth mentioning. Shrug.
 
Just because only "9" people have had their phones bent doesn't mean it's not a design flaw. Some of the people complained the phone was in their front pocket. If you can't sit down with a phone in your front pocket that is a problem. Some people on here are too quick to defend Apple and blame the users.

I have yet to see a single proof of someone bending his iPhone in the front pocket during normal usage.
All you can see in those ridiculous videos are people pulling and pushing the iPhone with both hands, applying full force to a single spot of the phone.
 
100% agreed. The problem which I see here though is people say apple users change their minds constantly without providing evidence of it and that they do it because apple told them what's best. Heck, if anyone can provide evidence of the sheeplike flip flopping, I'd say that would be good for a laugh.

Problem is it doesn't happen, and if it does not remotely nearly enough to be anything worth mentioning. Shrug.

On the flip side - there are enough posters on here who do, in fact, regurgitate press releases and quotes in defense of Apple instead of thinking for themselves or doing their own research. Quoting Apple on why 3.5/4" is the best size when arguing against the larger phones from other manufacturer isn't really valid. Stating your own personal use case and why, after trying to use a larger phone, you didn't enjoy it is much more valid.
 
You know as well as I do - that it's likely more than 9. Whether it constitutes the media attention is another matter but we live in a sensationalist world and Apple is definitely under a large media microscope.

At the end of the day - devices are not infallible. Things sometimes get through QA because QA isn't perfect either. It's entirely possible that X number of phones easily bend. That doesn't make it a non-issue for those unfortunate enough to experience it with their device.

Yeah its most probably more than nine. But it would take 1 million for apple to even have a 10% failure rate.

You and I both know its not remotely close to that because apple wouldn't even be able to keep a 1% failure rate (100,000) under wraps.
 
Not that it is really a competition but I am surprised. I've seen dozen's of standard iPhone 6's yet only a couple of Plus's in my travels. Well if people prefer the phablet, good luck to them I say :)

We've all wanted a choice in iPhone screen size for so long and now that we have that choice many people want to make it some sort of competition between the two sizes. I keep hearing people trying to disparage someone else's choice or coming up with some sort of explanation to justify why they made the choice they made. I say choose the size that works best for you and your workflow and be happy with it. Don't look back.
 
On the flip side - there are enough posters on here who do, in fact, regurgitate press releases and quotes in defense of Apple instead of thinking for themselves or doing their own research. Quoting Apple on why 3.5/4" is the best size when arguing against the larger phones from other manufacturer isn't really valid. Stating your own personal use case and why, after trying to use a larger phone, you didn't enjoy it is much more valid.

Agreed. I'm not in the business of denying the facts

I will always call out things that are said without evidence though!
 
Where did he say back pocket?

The consumer reports video didn't debunk anything. They didn't apply pressure in the weak spot.
http://www.cultofmac.com/297938/weakspot-theory-shows-bendgates-quite-dead-yet/

It takes half a brain to notice that the iPhone bent by Consumer Report is bent exactly in that point, even if the force was applied in the middle.

wastednewiphone.png


So their test is more than valid.
 
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