Might be the reason why they're selling so many 6+: replacement after bending...
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iPhone 6 Plus Reportedly Accounting for 60% of Total iPhone 6 Device Shipments
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When the iPhone was originally launched (and this is what a lot of people are conveniently forgetting), the screen size was larger than most of the other smartphones on the market by a wide margin due to eliminating the physical keyboard. The idea that Apple didn't understand the advantage of larger screens for phones has never made much sense. I think the main issue for Apple was the mass production of those larger screens and how you supported the processing requirements to drive the high density resolutions. The A8 was probably the first SoC that Apple felt had the appropriate horsepower for something like the 6 Plus.
I just straight out don't believe it. I have seen heaps of iPhone 6's and no iPhone 6+!
Don't believe these stats. I know about 8 or 9 people with a 6, and no-one with a 6+. Hardly conclusive, but if it was 60% I would know at least 1 person, surely.
Mixpanel looks more believable to me:
https://mixpanel.com/trends/#report/iphone_6/
Mixpanel looks more believable to me:
https://mixpanel.com/trends/#report/iphone_6/
I know several people that have switched from a Samsung device to iPhone.
Some people have been just waiting for the bigger screen to switch! There will be a lot this over the next year.
I also have noticed I'm using my iPad Air less. However, my 6+ won't take It's place.
i wonder what percentage of that 60% are first-time iPhone users who only like phablets, or were switching back after having used another brand specifically for a larger screen. in addition, i'd imagine some people who never wanted a larger iPhone but do want an iPad mini just compromised and went for the new 'tweener' (6+)
i could see this number being fairly accurate now, but eventually the 6 will catch up or surpass it. especially for next year when the 6S gets all the cameras goodness of this year's 6+. that's the only reason i didn't upgrade, personally.
i could see this number being fairly accurate now, but eventually the 6 will catch up or surpass it. especially for next year when the 6S gets all the cameras goodness of this year's 6+. that's the only reason i didn't upgrade, personally.
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I used to be one of the people who said Apple wont follow other phones with the larger screens. Or they wont do this or that, but times just have changed. Things got smaller for awhile, and now everything is growing again. Same with data, the cellular companies are now doubling data or increasing the size of packages because the internet gets faster, people use more, and files get larger. I FEEL we will see unlimited again in the future, and then beyond that, we will see tiered again. Its a cycle. But back to iPhones, I've had every iPhone since the 3gs. I loved the 3gs, but then came the 4, the 4 made nice strides. The 5 introduced the larger screen, which was nice when playing games, or watching movies, rare things at 3gs/4 launch. Now we have a 4.7" and 5.5" screen. Both targeted to select audiences, those who want a normal size device and those who want more. There is no need to down play the fact that the 6 Plus was a great idea, I personally wanted the 6 to begin with. But the better camera and the awesome battery, made me purchase the 6 Plus. I didnt prefer the bigger screen at that point, but like anything, I have been using it, and I feel I have no space using my wife's 5s. Its all just following the trend of electronics. Why try to downplay the fact that Apple is continually innovating and looking ways to take care of customers and profit themselves. In owning a business, you always expand. Apples expansion was to meet the needs of customers who wanted a larger phone, they did that, while still providing a smaller one for those who didnt. Its just business.
I used to be one of the people who said Apple wont follow other phones with the larger screens. Or they wont do this or that, but times just have changed. Things got smaller for awhile, and now everything is growing again. Same with data, the cellular companies are now doubling data or increasing the size of packages because the internet gets faster, people use more, and files get larger. I FEEL we will see unlimited again in the future, and then beyond that, we will see tiered again. Its a cycle. But back to iPhones, I've had every iPhone since the 3gs. I loved the 3gs, but then came the 4, the 4 made nice strides. The 5 introduced the larger screen, which was nice when playing games, or watching movies, rare things at 3gs/4 launch. Now we have a 4.7" and 5.5" screen. Both targeted to select audiences, those who want a normal size device and those who want more. There is no need to down play the fact that the 6 Plus was a great idea, I personally wanted the 6 to begin with. But the better camera and the awesome battery, made me purchase the 6 Plus. I didnt prefer the bigger screen at that point, but like anything, I have been using it, and I feel I have no space using my wife's 5s. Its all just following the trend of electronics. Why try to downplay the fact that Apple is continually innovating and looking ways to take care of customers and profit themselves. In owning a business, you always expand. Apples expansion was to meet the needs of customers who wanted a larger phone, they did that, while still providing a smaller one for those who didnt. Its just business.
I agree, i think when the final numbers are in they'll both be pretty even. It seems even here it's split down the middle as far as who likes what. MR is probably not a good representation of the whole though.
People who have their iPhones bend during "normal" use are just F --- ing stupid. Let me say it again: they are idiots.
Why? Because I've had taken my 6+ to work with me twice: once wearing khakis/Dockers, once wearing jeans. I can sit comfortably in my desk chair with the 6+ in the front pocket of either pair of pants and guess what?
NO. BENDS.
The only way that people are bending phones is 1) carrying the 6/6+ in a back pocket and sitting on it, or 2) carrying the phone in a front pocket and allowing the phone to be perpendicular to their femur, then sitting. In either case, this is user error. And the solution is pretty damn simple: for scenario 1, don't sit on your phone. In scenario 2, turn the phone 90 degrees so it's parallel to the femur.
Yes, it's that simple. Yes, people are that stupid.
Why? Because I've had taken my 6+ to work with me twice: once wearing khakis/Dockers, once wearing jeans. I can sit comfortably in my desk chair with the 6+ in the front pocket of either pair of pants and guess what?
NO. BENDS.
The only way that people are bending phones is 1) carrying the 6/6+ in a back pocket and sitting on it, or 2) carrying the phone in a front pocket and allowing the phone to be perpendicular to their femur, then sitting. In either case, this is user error. And the solution is pretty damn simple: for scenario 1, don't sit on your phone. In scenario 2, turn the phone 90 degrees so it's parallel to the femur.
Yes, it's that simple. Yes, people are that stupid.
I don't know that they didn't understand the larger screen advantages and disadvantages as much as they were wanting to stick with what people were used to. Even with the original iPhone, yes, the screen was bigger than anything out there, but the size of the phone itself was not. There were blackberry devices and even flip phones that were close in size. So it was an extreme asking a user to carry a device that size. A few years ago I personally was against a bigger screen and didn't think it was needed. As game development and app development has continued to expand, I have changed my mind.
Went with the plus - when I first got it though I'd made a mistake.
Once I got the Apple leather case on it - easily now best phone I've had.
Once I got the Apple leather case on it - easily now best phone I've had.
These sales figures should be broken down by region. It might be that the 60% is due to starting to sell in China where the bigger phones will be more popular.
The other obvious point, and a current uptick in manufacture of the Plus is likely more of a reflection of balancing. If Apple estimated or built 70/30 6/6Plus and the demand is closer to 50/50, then a 60% uptick in 6Plus manufacturing would make sense.
In any case, spot rates of manufacturing says very little about actual demand when this is all the information you have. Every speculation of why is fiction.
The other obvious point, and a current uptick in manufacture of the Plus is likely more of a reflection of balancing. If Apple estimated or built 70/30 6/6Plus and the demand is closer to 50/50, then a 60% uptick in 6Plus manufacturing would make sense.
In any case, spot rates of manufacturing says very little about actual demand when this is all the information you have. Every speculation of why is fiction.
This. Many people who pre-ordered within the first hour of launch are still pending shipping, with estimates going way into the end of November, and that's just within the first hour of orders going live.
Agree with what you said. People are dumb to leave a phone this large in their front pocket as you described. But people will do that...its just human nature.People who have their iPhones bend during "normal" use are just F --- ing stupid. Let me say it again: they are idiots.
Why? Because I've had taken my 6+ to work with me twice: once wearing khakis/Dockers, once wearing jeans. I can sit comfortably in my desk chair with the 6+ in the front pocket of either pair of pants and guess what?
NO. BENDS.
The only way that people are bending phones is 1) carrying the 6/6+ in a back pocket and sitting on it, or 2) carrying the phone in a front pocket and allowing the phone to be perpendicular to their femur, then sitting. In either case, this is user error. And the solution is pretty damn simple: for scenario 1, don't sit on your phone. In scenario 2, turn the phone 90 degrees so it's parallel to the femur.
Yes, it's that simple. Yes, people are that stupid.
I so agree with this. I was scared to go bigger than the 5s. I went into the store and held the phones in my hand before deciding to buy. As you well stated, the 6+ was too big -- I could not hold it comfortably with one hand, and actually doing anything with one hand was impossible. The 6 is a little more difficult than the 5s but was surprisingly more workable than I thought. Now I am surprised when I look at my wife's 5c. I am still trying to figure out how to handle the 6 with one hand as my other is holding on to the rail in the bus as I go to and from work. But generally, I am very happy indeed.
Some of you may agree with me. I talked to some of my friends and we're thinking the same. If we're going to get an iPhone 6 Plus, that means we don't feel the need for the iPad anymore. I started thinking that's probably the very reason why Android tablets is not as famous as iPad. There are so many Android phones with a very large screen and Android users buy them. Mostly Android tablet users I've noticed were kids, parents who wants to save money for their kids toy. iPad sales is in decline now, and I'm hoping Apple is gonna come out with something way better. I hope they're not just gonna put the Touch ID and more RAM in there and be done with it. The rumored 12" iPad will probably change that. I don't have the iPhone 6 Plus yet, but when I do I probably not getting an iPad any time soon. Is this good for the consumers like me? Yes! But for the Apple business perspective, maybe not. Unless they got something better iPad coming soon.
yea , this statistic is nothing amazing , 60% of new orders , i would expect it to be even more. Its kind of disappointing to be honest.
Seriously, for the men who have a Plus, how in the hell do you carry it with you at all times? Do you always have some kind of bag? Do you wear clothes with excessively large pockets? The 6 barely fits in some of my suit jacket or pants pockets, let alone jeans. Women almost always have a purse and, prior to the release of the 6's, most Note/phablet users I observed in the wild were women, which makes sense.
I own a 6, but played with the 6 Plus at the Apple store, and it's an absolute monster. I can't imagine carrying it with me despite the larger and more pixel dense screen being a great asset.
I own a 6, but played with the 6 Plus at the Apple store, and it's an absolute monster. I can't imagine carrying it with me despite the larger and more pixel dense screen being a great asset.
Seems people think bigger is better
think many people might be opting for this rather then an ipad mini too, so might be stealing from those sales a bit. curious how the ipad mini sales have been affected by the 6+.