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Sigh. Get over it.

It's a different era. Times change. Back when Steve was talking about the perfect size phone, people actually used a phone for making phone calls. I bet that most people who buy the 6+ will rarely, if ever, make actual voice phone calls. It's more an internet communication device.

I bought the regular 6. It feels too big for me. I wish Apple released 3 different sizes, a 4", a 4.7" and a 5.5". I would pick the 4". I can't use my phone one-handed anymore, something that I really liked. I now must use the 2nd hand occasionally, which is really annoying. Like when I'm walking my dog, holding the leash in one hand, reading email in the other, it's hard to move back, because that's in the upper left corner.

I use my phone to get 'quick information' at a glance. I'm not on it all the time. When I'm doing something real, I'm sitting next to a real computer. It's just my workflow which isn't being taken into account anymore.

Steve was right back in 2007, but use-cases change, and in 2014, it's different. I bet in 2021, it will be different as well. Can't people change their minds over time?

Absolutely true.
I'm annoyed by this old story about "Steve said that it's the perfect size". It was 2007. Time changes. Apple already changed the iPhone size from 3.5 to 4, and this year they changed again, with two different sizes. What's the problem?
It really amuse me to see haters complain about the size when last year most of them were complaining about the iPhone being too small.
 
Earlier reports were that Apple was producing 400,000 iPhone 6 per day... but only 140,000 iPhone 6 Plus per day.

This article is contradicts that...

I guess we'll find out something on October 20...
 
Absolutely true.
I'm annoyed by this old story about "Steve said that it's the perfect size". It was 2007. Time changes. Apple already changed the iPhone size from 3.5 to 4, and this year they changed again, with two different sizes. What's the problem?
It really amuse me to see haters complain about the size when last year most of them were complaining about the iPhone being too small.


Haters gonna hate
 
I bought an iPhone 6+ and even I am surprised by this report. Like many others in the forum, I would've imagine that the iPhone 6 would've accounted for 70% of sales, and the iPhone 6 Plus would have accounted for 30% of the sales.

Bigger is better. ;)
 
Just because only "9" people have had their phones bent doesn't mean it's not a design flaw. Some of the people complained the phone was in their front pocket. If you can't sit down with a phone in your front pocket that is a problem. Some people on here are too quick to defend Apple and blame the users.

Not a design flaw.
Consumer reports subjected the iPhone6 and 6+ to bending tests.
They found what I could have told them.

Not as strong as the 5 but no less resistant to bending than the other aluminum phones on the market HTC One, etc.

Also if they were able to bend the phone in a front pocket, then they would nove noticed the phone. It takes between 70 and 90 lbs of force to bend the phone.

If you put four #2 pencils together and try to break them, you will need more force than that to bend the phone.

Bendgate is bull.....
 
No. It doesn't bend in people's pocket unless you are not going to sit on it.
And if you take a seat on a 6mm thick piece of glass and aluminum, well, you are not so smart.

Who said something about 'sitting on your phone'? Of course it will take some kind of damage over the time. I'm talking about carrying it in your front pocket. And second of all, what if I tell you that a piece of aluminium, that should be designed for daily usage and for being carried around, bends under this kind of pressure, is a failure? What ever Apple's structural engineers did, they failed. That's not even my opinion, that's a fact.
 
I'm surprised its not a higher percentage. I thought it would be like 80%. Though I think the 6 Plus is extremely popular, I do believe that the IP6 is much more readily available at the stores thus kicking the order/wait out of the window.

So we'll have to see the trend of sales to get the true picture.
 
Who said something about 'sitting on your phone'? Of course it will take some kind of damage over the time. I'm talking about carrying it in your front pocket. And second of all, what if I tell you that a piece of aluminium, that should be designed for daily usage and for being carried around, bends under this kind of pressure, is a failure? What ever Apple's structural engineers did, they failed. That's not even my opinion, that's a fact.


The fact is in 10M phones only 0,00031% reported bent.

Beat that fact!
 
I bought an iPhone 6+ and even I am surprised by this report. Like many others in the forum, I would've imagine that the iPhone 6 would've accounted for 70% of sales, and the iPhone 6 Plus would have accounted for 30% of the sales.

Bigger is better. ;)

That's not really what this article is saying though. They underestimated or probably couldn't meet the demand. Therefore they've decided to stock up more 6 Pluses. This doesn't really tell at all which device has sold the most. If anything it wouldn't surprise me if the 6 will still end up being the most popular device out of the two by a significant margin.
 
When the iPhone was originally launched (and this is what a lot of people are conveniently forgetting), the screen size was larger than most of the other smartphones on the market by a wide margin due to eliminating the physical keyboard. The idea that Apple didn't understand the advantage of larger screens for phones has never made much sense. I think the main issue for Apple was the mass production of those larger screens and how you supported the processing requirements to drive the high density resolutions. The A8 was probably the first SoC that Apple felt had the appropriate horsepower for something like the 6 Plus.

So how do you explain the A5X, A6X, and A7. They all powered displays larger and higher resolution than the new iPhone 6+.
 
I don't believe this rumor. I can't see more people buying the plus than the regular one. In the wild I'm seeing at least five to one in favor of the 6. Though admittedly that folks who preordered the plus late in the first day of preorder may still not have gotten it.

But it doesn't make sense to me as a device. And this argument that it will be your only device doesn't make sense. If you can afford a $850 6plus, you can afford a laptop and tablet. I'm sure there Arent many 6 plus owners out there who don't also have a computer at home.
 
I'm sure this phone is doing really well, but I highly doubt the 60% number. I'm quite pleased that my Sept 19 preorder that was supposed to deliver between Oct 17-27 is being delivered today! Verizon 6+ 128GB Space Gray model.

Holy mackerel, I would have guessed it would have been 70/30 in favour of the 6!

Thats insane. I skipped upgrading this gen, for the first time ever, due to both models being to large. Im amazed it sells so well, but also sad, because I guess this may be the end for the smaller models. Id prefer 4" and even 3,5" over these.

I'm honestly surprised...

I don't understand why everyone is so surprised. Apple only matched what's already out there. Furthermore, each time I came on this forum (which wasn't that much), everyone was saying they wanted bigger.

The 6 Plus in an excellent phone and I'm not taking away from the 6. The was an extremely high demand for it and has been for a long while. I don't think the demand for the smaller model is robust as people may think it is anymore.
 
This baffles me. While I love the screen size, there is just too much bezel. If it were the size of the LG G3, it would have been a no-brainer.

There is not too much bezel. Side bezel are very thin, and bottom bezel is needed because of the TouchID button. The only big bezel is the top one.

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Noooo I'm talking about the one where 9 out of 10,000,000 customers have complained. 99.99991% success rate pshhh...does apple do any quality control anymore??


Nope. Apple hasn't time to do any quality control: they are too busy in counting money :D
 
Only 9 customers and only idiots would actually try and bend thier device. You don't see Pepsi or Coke giving refunds for you carrying a bottle of drink your pocket and sat on it and break it. Everything breaks and bend some even have #Gaps so we just need to be smart with our device.

I was asked by at least 20 people yesterday if my phone bends. And I'm not exaggerating that number. It's so ridiculous now that when someone sees my new phone for the first time they say "Hey is that the 6 Plus? Did it bend yet?" My response every time " Well you're looking right at it. Does it look like it bent yet?" And I have carried it in jean pockets, no case, sitting in class and driving in my car for sometimes two hours at a time.
 
This is such a dumb analysis and conclusion.

Demand for the Plus was clearly underestimated by Apple, the product forecasting team got it wrong, so bigger orders for parts now just means they are playing catchup with demand.

I wouldn't call this "dumb" but misleading. It is, however, a good indication that the 6 Plus is very desired and as everyone thought it would be an open/shut case that the 6 would be more popular juuuust may not be the case. We'll just have to wait and see.
 
Earlier reports were that Apple was producing 400,000 iPhone 6 per day... but only 140,000 iPhone 6 Plus per day.

This article is contradicts that...

I guess we'll find out something on October 20...

You won't...Apple doesn't break down sales by model...the most we will get is people asking when they will reach supply demand balance. I doubt Tim will say anything.
 
I was asked by at least 20 people yesterday if my phone bends. And I'm not exaggerating that number. It's so ridiculous now that when someone sees my new phone for the first time they say "Hey is that the 6 Plus? Did it bend yet?" My response every time " Well you're looking right at it. Does it look like it bent yet?"

The internet truly is an idiotic place lol. Only there can a .00009% failure rate trigger mass hysteria.
 
FYI - I have no problem with people changing their minds. I did it with the original iPad. I do however think people should also have enough integrity to admit when they were wrong (if and when they are.) In fact, I have great respect for those that have posted that they were wrong about larger phones and that they really like the new iPhone and the larger size.

Once you state an opinion, you don't have to maintain it forever - or even in the same thread. But at least own it.

I don't have an iPhone 6+, but surely I changed opinion on large phones after 4 months of use of my Lumia 1520. If I had to buy an iPhone today, maybe it could be a 6+
 
I don't understand why everyone is so surprised. Apple only matched what's already out there. Furthermore, each time I came on this forum (which wasn't that much), everyone was saying they wanted bigger.

The 6 Plus in an excellent phone and I'm not taking away from the 6. The was an extremely high demand for it and has been for a long while. I don't think the demand for the smaller model is robust as people may think it is anymore.

That's a bold statement. We'll just have to wait and see on their earnings report in 17 days.
 
I wonder how many of iPhone 6 Plus sale comes from previous Android users who didn't want to use iPhone before due to smaller size, versus someone who used to use an iPhone.
 
Many people don't like to admit they are wrong and to an extent with the screen size issue, the market and further development of technology is the reason these opinions changed. The development of the iPhone and phones in general into a huge gaming platform has changed people's mind, as well as other app development making people realize that a bigger screen can be helpful. Essentially the phone becomes more like a laptop every year, so the desire for a bigger screen today makes sense to many that 3 years ago thought the size was excessive and unneeded. To that extent it isn't even that they were wrong then, it's that today they use their phone differently than even a few years ago. If you've been around long enough, you will remember a similar thing on a smaller scale in the late 90's/early 2000's when people started complaining that phones were getting too small.

It's not an issue of being right or wrong. It's a question of owning your opinion and then owning that you have changed your opinion.

For example - I am not shy at all that originally I thought the iPad had no place in my life. I couldn't find a use case for it. And posted heavily so. Not for OTHER people - for me and stated that I would never buy one. However my use case needs changed when instead of thinking the iPad was needed for productivity (for me) that it could instead be a great way to consume media without bringing a laptop around on my honeymoon and when traveling for work. I bought one on day one. Of course, it helped that there was no line that day and I got one very easily. I think I can say that if I had to wait in a long line, I might have passed for awhile.

Very shortly after I was on here praising the iPad and acknowledged my previous posts which were so negative.

That's what I'm talking about. Anyone can change their opinion. But own it.
 
I wonder how many of iPhone 6 Plus sale comes from previous Android users who didn't want to use iPhone before due to smaller size, versus someone who used to use an iPhone.

Its a good stat to know but we'll never find out
 
Scratching my head over this (As in I don't believe it).

I work in an organization where we allow BYOD. We have approximately 800 iOS devices registered to our MDM server. 534 of those are iPhones. 46 of those iPhones are iPhone 6. Of those iPhone 6, 7 of them are Plus. And I know of at least one of those 7 who is returning their Plus for a 4.7" iPhone 6.

I find it hard to believe that our environment is that different than the market as a whole. Unless most of those 6 Plus sales have been outside of the US.

Well, 46 units statistically are a very little number, compared to more than ten million sold.
 
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